RIP EU SERVER

snoozy

got in but it is laggy as ***

MartiniDaniels

tonne.backlinderb16_ESO wrote: »

What do they really do when then have server maintenance? Empty trashcan and runs a defrag?

They try to do something, but it lags too hard after a week so OS can't stop it's own processes, so somebody just sighs and types sync sync reboot

tonne.backlinderb16_ESO

Is there an issue with the forum server too? Some posts seem to go missing

pklemming

Zone times, 2-3 minutes. Inivte to group, 2 minutes, Port recognising you want to port and initiating a port 2 minutes. Groupig tool gets confused, tells you you failed to join the group, then you are added around 2 minutes laterBosses just standing there, confused, and not hitting back and dying pitifuly. Have guildies surfing on battleaxes whilst weilding their invisible sword and shield

Issues queuing with DF and BG. Issues leaving queue from DF and BF. Fun times....

pklemming

Apparently, this patch has caused my typing to fail completely too.

tonne.backlinderb16_ESO

And now when I try to log in it loads my character for a while and then I get to the choose character screen.

Chi75

"nothing" work... Store.... mail.... dungeon yeah

Eva13

Endless loading screens, every action takes forever to complete, chat lag. What else? Good job done

Chi75

+ endless loadingscreen of death

Arrodisia

@ZOS_GinaBruno
HI. We're experiencing a host of issues on PC EU. Extremely long load screens while logging on and changing areas, load screens while walking 4-5 feet away, longer chat and mail delays, the guild stores are completely inaccessible, inventory interaction delays, DC's, ............. Please, look into it, maybe restart the server or patch it up.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards,

tonne.backlinderb16_ESO

Perhaps better if they just left the servers alone? Trying to do my daily writs but only managed on one char

pklemming

Luckily this is a one-off issue and doesn't happen every time they patch the EU server.

Umbro100

So, we had an 8h maintenance yesterday, we get another 3h today, if not more. Fine, just make it work.
But, I see it is only the EU server. When people were complaining that the EU maintenance is always prime time and the NA when everyone is asleep many people claimed that the servers must be taken down together.
Obviously not. EU can be done separately.

Eva13

At least now they pretty honest on advantages of eso+. Pay and get numerous extended maintenance during your play time

Arrodisia

I want to believe the maintenance will turn out well. However, due to past experiences I'm already wondering if we're going to get the giant dooouche or the turd sandwich today.

Curious_Death

Daimonion82 wrote: »

Why it has to be always Europe?
Enjoy your free ESO+ trial during maintenance and server crash.

Exacly! i tried to log in yesterday .. Maintenance... today.. Maintenance

haha i rem why i cancelled eso+ lmao even now i cannot use free one just wanted to clear bank

Indepth

I cannot believe it, must be some kind of US joke right?

As for example:
Nestlé Swiss IT-Department fired last year 650 devs for lack of skills
Ok Nestlé make in a week what bethesda do in a year but still.. that kind of behaviour is not professional at all and must be punished.

And for those who will defend the devs and pretend they know anything, obviously they don't know anything about
software engineering bottleneck which should be the first thing they learned while preparing their MSc/PhD...

For the common, it's like asking a chef to prepare a stew without searing the meat before adding the liquid.. the path is the path, do not take short cut overwise you cannot claim yourself Software Development Engineer as a cook calling himself a chef when he do not follow the protocole.

"This is the way"

Yes it's right, breach in the coding cannot be fixed without any collateral damages, thats why good devs don't apply patches without testing straight after the batching..

I'm not pissed, I am pondering in silence whereas my wife allowed me to play this afternoon as she did yesterday already while she is taking care of the kids. So kind of her right, if I could play !

S c h e i ß

Kimda

I logged in with my stamDK, used a wayshrine to travel to Dragonguard Sanctuary. Collected all quests there and then went to kill Ri'Atahrashi. When he was killed, I used a wayshrine to travel to place, where dragons spawn. I killed one dragon and then riding toward next wayshrine, my character was suddenly disconnected.

Once I logged back, I was back at the Dragonguard Sanctuary and all my progress after last login was disappeared.

I will go back to PC NA, even ping is huge, but it works a lot better than PC EU.

TheFM

Indepth wrote: »

I cannot believe it, must be some kind of US joke right?

As for example:
Nestlé Swiss IT-Department fired last year 650 devs for lack of skills
Ok Nestlé make in a week what bethesda do in a year but still.. that kind of behaviour is not professional at all and must be punished.

And for those who will defend the devs and pretend they know anything, obviously they don't know anything about
software engineering bottleneck which should be the first thing they learned while preparing their MSc/PhD...

For the common, it's like asking a chef to prepare a stew without searing the meat before adding the liquid.. the path is the path, do not take short cut overwise you cannot claim yourself Software Development Engineer as a cook calling himself a chef when he do not follow the protocole.

"This is the way"

Yes it's right, breach in the coding cannot be fixed without any collateral damages, thats why good devs don't apply patches without testing straight after the batching..

I'm not pissed, I am pondering in silence whereas my wife allowed me to play this afternoon as she did yesterday already while she is taking care of the kids. So kind of her right, if I could play !

S c h e i ß

Gaming companies are the only companies that can release a half finished , or flat out broken produict, and get away with it. Imagine getting a car with bare tires with no profile, or without windows, thats pretty much what is going on here, and there is nothing it seems ppl can do about it.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Indepth wrote: »

For the common, it's like asking a chef to prepare a stew without searing the meat before adding the liquid.. the path is the path, do not take short cut overwise you cannot claim yourself Software Development Engineer as a cook calling himself a chef when he do not follow the protocole.

I like this analogy.

But when a cook (incl. a chef) misses a stew, sauce or anything, he has two options : restart it from scratch, or adjust it the best he can.

While option 1 is certainly the best option for obtaining the "perfect" sauce, it costs time, ingredients and the loss of customers who are currently waiting for their plate and most certainly not ready to come back the next day. Since the restaurant must cover its costs, and the cook needs his salary, most times option 1 is not an option. So we stay with option 2, which, while not delivering the "perfect" sauce, still delivers an acceptable dish.

I believe that's ESO's situation. Something somewhere has been done the wrong way from the beginning with the coding of this game, and starting over from scratch is not an option. So they keep tinkering and adjusting with what's there.
Since there are millions of us enjoying this game for 5+ years, you cannot objectively call it a bad choice - even though it is and probably always be imperfect and suffer the scars from the original mistakes.

Woodoochill

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Indepth wrote: »

For the common, it's like asking a chef to prepare a stew without searing the meat before adding the liquid.. the path is the path, do not take short cut overwise you cannot claim yourself Software Development Engineer as a cook calling himself a chef when he do not follow the protocole.

I like this analogy.

But when a cook (incl. a chef) misses a stew, sauce or anything, he has two options : restart it from scratch, or adjust it the best he can.

While option 1 is certainly the best option for obtaining the "perfect" sauce, it costs time, ingredients and the loss of customers who are currently waiting for their plate and most certainly not ready to come back the next day. Since the restaurant must cover its costs, and the cook needs his salary, most times option 1 is not an option. So we stay with option 2, which, while not delivering the "perfect" sauce, still delivers an acceptable dish.

I believe that's ESO's situation. Something somewhere has been done the wrong way from the beginning with the coding of this game, and starting over from scratch is not an option. So they keep tinkering and adjusting with what's there.
Since there are millions of us enjoying this game for 5+ years, you cannot objectively call it a bad choice - even though it is and probably always be imperfect and suffer the scars from the original mistakes.

If you want to think like this, you have to move your thinking a bit further. A chefs meal is prepared from couple of ingredients that are later put together - with steak it might be some potatoes as side dish, a grilled vegetable and a glass of vine or beer. Everything is prepared separatly and put together before serving. When he *** up one ingredient like the onion is too salty, he only throws away that onion and starts to work on it over while other ingredients are properly maintained (meat kept warm, beer is cold etc.).

With developing system its the same - you create many parts and layers of code for example graphical surrounding is not on same level as calculation of damage dealt by your spells, database commands are not with parts of code, that solves ingame trading etc. Everything is seperated in smaller parts of code and functions that are called from somewhere, where its needed.

Basically its exactly cuz of issues(and clarity ofc), when something needs some adjustment or even rework, so when you find bug in function A that returns B(B might be missing some data), you rework it inside, you dont need to change only what is inside, maybe some additional arguments but you still return B and now with all the data. This separation allows you to faster find where the bug hides and get to its root, then fix it.

Competent programer will do his work to be readable for other programers and also bigger companies has some code supervisor(senior professional with years of practice), that re-reads changes and new code before it is applied to production version, mostly for its readability to others and efficiency.

If there was something *** up, 1) they should be aware of its cause after so many of months, 2) its not because one guy did it, but because mistake was made by multiple ppl and mostly by those who allowed it to reach production version

Kertats

The thread that never dies

TwiceBornStar

cyberjanet wrote: »

Logged out for a short while, now I have no friends, no guilds. Nobody loves me.

Coffee?

Aznox

Due to a hardware issue, the European PC/Mac megaserver is currently unavailable while we perform maintenance.

I would be really curious to know the hardware infrastructure supporting PC EU ...

Hotel6

Big oof when it's "hardware" Issue,

HyekAr

Heresyall wrote: »

don't worry , it's going to be fix in 6 months ^

Hi from 2021 august, we just having server issues

BallBustingBabe

I hope they do 2moz maintenence too whilst we sleep

[Deleted User]

Hello everyone,

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