Ping / Tracer ESO mega poll, whats your ping?!

Casterial

What is your average ping? I'm curious if anyone actually will say 30-50!
I've added spoilers in the main to help readability.

So quick breakdown on my end:
Fast.com internet test to closest server

• Internet Speed: 220mbps
• Uploaded Latency: 9 ms
• Loaded: 882ms
• Upload:5.8 mbps

Fast.com internet test to Austin TX(AT&T)

• Ping: 58ms
• Download MBPS 220mbps
• Upload 5.8MBs

If you'd like to run test here is the How To Ping/Tracer Test ESO Guide
Post the results below using code block

Now lets go ahead and test ESO servers....(US)

Pinging 198.20.198.110 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 198.20.198.110: bytes=32 time=64ms TTL=241
Reply from 198.20.198.110: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=241
Reply from 198.20.198.110: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=241
Reply from 198.20.198.110: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=241

Ping statistics for 198.20.198.110:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 64ms, Average = 55ms

In-game /latency shows 100+ So what is /latency calculating? Is it accurate? Is this how bad the client is for client to server relation?
TRACER (NA)

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops
  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Linksys23624 [192.168.1.1]
  2    21 ms    23 ms    34 ms  96.120.88.65
  3    13 ms    19 ms    15 ms  be-10019-rur01.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.190.53]
  4    13 ms    29 ms    12 ms  be-231-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.78.249]
  5    13 ms    11 ms    16 ms  be-3651-cr02.sunnyvale.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.73]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-11083-pe02.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.14]
  7    11 ms    10 ms    15 ms  96-87-8-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.87.8.2]
  8    25 ms    13 ms    14 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.115.217]
  9    20 ms    13 ms    16 ms  akamai-ic-317106-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.146.109]
 10    10 ms    12 ms    13 ms  po111.bs-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.194]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    14 ms    15 ms    19 ms  ae120.access-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.197]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    55 ms    51 ms    55 ms  198.20.192.3
 15    50 ms    49 ms    48 ms  198.20.198.110

Trace complete.

MLGProPlayer

100 - 150

I have 1 Gbit internet.

I average 120 ping in ESO, lol.

Casterial

100 - 150

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I have 1 Gbit internet.

I average 120 ping in ESO, lol.

Non-prime time I'm about the same. I'm so excited when I see it at 75 though! During primetime I never go below 130... ):

jcm2606

250 +

Cries in Australian.

Casterial

100 - 150

jcm2606 wrote: »

Cries in Australian.

Yeah... They need to open an oceanic server lol.. But I think it'd be dead

jcm2606

250 +

Casterial wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

Cries in Australian.

Yeah... They need to open an oceanic server lol.. But I think it'd be dead

To be honest, 250-300 doesn't bother me. It can get annoying, rolling just out of an AoE and still being hit, but it's playable.

What's not *** playable is 350+, which is what I get if I don't have a VPN up, specifically because of Akamai's *** routing. Drop Akamai so our ping is back to the 250-300 it usually is, work on improving servers so it goes back to the 200-250 it was when I started playing (just before 1T), and I'm good.

Siohwenoeht

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

Edit: @jcm2606 beat me to it lol!

jcm2606

250 +

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

It's worse for us Oceanic players, actually. It's well known that Akamai sends Oceanic traffic up into Asia and through the Singapore scrubbing center, before sending to the ESO servers. They started doing so just after the Singapore center opened up, which was around October-ish last year, which was around the time our ping basically doubled.

There was a 10 page thread in the tech support section filled with everybody's traces from all over the Oceanic region (multiple Aussie states, NZ, Asia), and they all showed more or less the same thing. There's a 30+ page thread about this in the general section, and of course there's no actual response from Zenimax.

I can use a VPN such as Mudfish to bypass Akamai's routing and force Akamai to deal with my traffic as if it was US traffic, but I refuse to support this game while I'm having to pay for a VPN to just have playable ping.

Casterial

100 - 150

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Linksys23624 [192.168.1.1]
  2    21 ms    23 ms    34 ms  96.120.88.65
  3    13 ms    19 ms    15 ms  be-10019-rur01.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.190.53]
  4    13 ms    29 ms    12 ms  be-231-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.78.249]
  5    13 ms    11 ms    16 ms  be-3651-cr02.sunnyvale.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.73]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-11083-pe02.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.14]
  7    11 ms    10 ms    15 ms  96-87-8-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.87.8.2]
  8    25 ms    13 ms    14 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.115.217]
  9    20 ms    13 ms    16 ms  akamai-ic-317106-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.146.109]
 10    10 ms    12 ms    13 ms  po111.bs-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.194]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    14 ms    15 ms    19 ms  ae120.access-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.197]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    55 ms    51 ms    55 ms  198.20.192.3
 15    50 ms    49 ms    48 ms  198.20.198.110

Trace complete.

Interesting that TWO time out. Added Tracer to top. Recorrect the IP as well to be NA ping test.

Mayrael

100 - 150

Usually somewhere here, but when in Cyro, server is sometimes so loaded it's no longer about ping but server not being able to calculate all the data so the real time of response is much higher as ping probably works on different port.

Siohwenoeht

Casterial wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Linksys23624 [192.168.1.1]
  2    21 ms    23 ms    34 ms  96.120.88.65
  3    13 ms    19 ms    15 ms  be-10019-rur01.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.190.53]
  4    13 ms    29 ms    12 ms  be-231-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.78.249]
  5    13 ms    11 ms    16 ms  be-3651-cr02.sunnyvale.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.73]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-11083-pe02.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.14]
  7    11 ms    10 ms    15 ms  96-87-8-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.87.8.2]
  8    25 ms    13 ms    14 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.115.217]
  9    20 ms    13 ms    16 ms  akamai-ic-317106-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.146.109]
 10    10 ms    12 ms    13 ms  po111.bs-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.194]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    14 ms    15 ms    19 ms  ae120.access-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.197]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    55 ms    51 ms    55 ms  198.20.192.3
 15    50 ms    49 ms    48 ms  198.20.198.110

Trace complete.

Interesting that TWO time out.

It is. I'm surprised that it sent you to Cali, but I guess Texas is geographically closer to there than Massachusetts. San Jose and Santa Clara are two of Akamai's west coast locations.

Casterial

100 - 150

195.122.154.1

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Linksys23624 [192.168.1.1]
  2    21 ms    23 ms    34 ms  96.120.88.65
  3    13 ms    19 ms    15 ms  be-10019-rur01.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.190.53]
  4    13 ms    29 ms    12 ms  be-231-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.78.249]
  5    13 ms    11 ms    16 ms  be-3651-cr02.sunnyvale.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.73]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-11083-pe02.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.14]
  7    11 ms    10 ms    15 ms  96-87-8-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.87.8.2]
  8    25 ms    13 ms    14 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.115.217]
  9    20 ms    13 ms    16 ms  akamai-ic-317106-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.146.109]
 10    10 ms    12 ms    13 ms  po111.bs-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.194]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    14 ms    15 ms    19 ms  ae120.access-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.197]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    55 ms    51 ms    55 ms  198.20.192.3
 15    50 ms    49 ms    48 ms  198.20.198.110

Trace complete.

Interesting that TWO time out.

It is. I'm surprised that it sent you to Cali, but I guess Texas is geographically closer to there than Massachusetts. San Jose and Santa Clara are two of Akamai's west coast locations.

I'm located in The Bay Area, but it doesn't seem to help ):

Casterial

100 - 150

jcm2606 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

It's worse for us Oceanic players, actually. It's well known that Akamai sends Oceanic traffic up into Asia and through the Singapore scrubbing center, before sending to the ESO servers. They started doing so just after the Singapore center opened up, which was around October-ish last year, which was around the time our ping basically doubled.

There was a 10 page thread in the tech support section filled with everybody's traces from all over the Oceanic region (multiple Aussie states, NZ, Asia), and they all showed more or less the same thing. There's a 30+ page thread about this in the general section, and of course there's no actual response from Zenimax.

I can use a VPN such as Mudfish to bypass Akamai's routing and force Akamai to deal with my traffic as if it was US traffic, but I refuse to support this game while I'm having to pay for a VPN to just have playable ping

.

Zenimax made a big mistake by trusting megaserver technology when it was clearly not ready yet. What they should have done was the WoW shift, everyones on servers, but sharded. This way you can play with anyone, go to any phase if you have a friend etc.... I don't know. Megaservers are nice, but this is the cost.

Siohwenoeht

Casterial wrote: »

195.122.154.1

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  Linksys23624 [192.168.1.1]
  2    21 ms    23 ms    34 ms  96.120.88.65
  3    13 ms    19 ms    15 ms  be-10019-rur01.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.190.53]
  4    13 ms    29 ms    12 ms  be-231-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [162.151.78.249]
  5    13 ms    11 ms    16 ms  be-3651-cr02.sunnyvale.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.73]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    16 ms  be-11083-pe02.529bryant.ca.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.84.14]
  7    11 ms    10 ms    15 ms  96-87-8-2-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [96.87.8.2]
  8    25 ms    13 ms    14 ms  sjo-b21-link.telia.net [62.115.115.217]
  9    20 ms    13 ms    16 ms  akamai-ic-317106-sjo-b21.c.telia.net [62.115.146.109]
 10    10 ms    12 ms    13 ms  po111.bs-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.194]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12    14 ms    15 ms    19 ms  ae120.access-a.sech-sjc.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.184.197]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    55 ms    51 ms    55 ms  198.20.192.3
 15    50 ms    49 ms    48 ms  198.20.198.110

Trace complete.

Interesting that TWO time out.

It is. I'm surprised that it sent you to Cali, but I guess Texas is geographically closer to there than Massachusetts. San Jose and Santa Clara are two of Akamai's west coast locations.

I'm located in The Bay Area, but it doesn't seem to help ):

My bad, I read Austin in your op and figured you were in Texas as well as the severs. Tracer makes sense now😉.

My ESO traffic goes through the NE US first, as does all the EU server traffic. It's most likely the cause of most of the EU latency issues.

Edit: and I'm on the Kansas - Missouri border.

Casterial

100 - 150

Friends Tracer

Tracing route to 198.20.198.110 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     2 ms     2 ms     1 ms  router.charter.net [192.168.1.1]
  2    15 ms    12 ms    13 ms  10.117.118.5
  3    15 ms    18 ms    13 ms  72-31-238-225.net.bhntampa.com [72.31.238.225]
  4    12 ms    11 ms    17 ms  72-31-238-242.net.bhntampa.com [72.31.238.242]
  5    16 ms    13 ms    16 ms  72-31-238-216.net.bhntampa.com [72.31.238.216]
  6    42 ms    40 ms    37 ms  10.bu-ether15.atlngamq46w-bcr01.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.222]
  7    37 ms    39 ms    38 ms  bu-ether18.atlngamq46-bcr00.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.40]
  8    37 ms    39 ms    39 ms  107.14.19.19
  9    30 ms    33 ms    32 ms  ix-ae-14-0.tcore1.a56-atlanta.as6453.net [64.86.113.37]
 10    48 ms    41 ms    47 ms  if-ae-43-2.tcore2.a56-atlanta.as6453.net [64.86.113.150]
 11    47 ms   194 ms    46 ms  if-ae-21-2.tcore1.aeq-ashburn.as6453.net [66.198.154.24]
 12    46 ms    46 ms    48 ms  66.198.154.66
 13    54 ms    52 ms    55 ms  po111.bs-b.sech-iad.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.144.202]
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15    53 ms    58 ms    68 ms  ae121.access-a.sech-iad.netarch.akamai.com [209.200.144.205]

Another timeout lol

Casterial

100 - 150

Its interesting to see an actual substantial amount of voters voting on the 50-100, I'm afk in Riften with ~5 others, 2 are dueling and I'm at 117.

Betty_Booms

250 +

Was 280 ms a couple of weeks ago. Now 410 ms +. I dont pvp anymore as a result.

Casterial

100 - 150

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Was 280 ms a couple of weeks ago. Now 410 ms +. I dont pvp anymore as a result.

Damn man, I'm sorry I can barely function once I hit 175 I'm just not use to the delay. Its not noticeable as bad in groups, but being solo it hurts.

gamergirldk

50 - 100

80-120

never ever below 80 (Denmark)

LordGavus

250 +

Lol, list doesnt goes passed 250.

The best ive ever had is 275. Right now without my vpn i get 450+.
With vpn average is about 315

Siohwenoeht

Casterial wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

It's worse for us Oceanic players, actually. It's well known that Akamai sends Oceanic traffic up into Asia and through the Singapore scrubbing center, before sending to the ESO servers. They started doing so just after the Singapore center opened up, which was around October-ish last year, which was around the time our ping basically doubled.

There was a 10 page thread in the tech support section filled with everybody's traces from all over the Oceanic region (multiple Aussie states, NZ, Asia), and they all showed more or less the same thing. There's a 30+ page thread about this in the general section, and of course there's no actual response from Zenimax.

I can use a VPN such as Mudfish to bypass Akamai's routing and force Akamai to deal with my traffic as if it was US traffic, but I refuse to support this game while I'm having to pay for a VPN to just have playable ping

.

Zenimax made a big mistake by trusting megaserver technology when it was clearly not ready yet. What they should have done was the WoW shift, everyones on servers, but sharded. This way you can play with anyone, go to any phase if you have a friend etc.... I don't know. Megaservers are nice, but this is the cost.

I'm not convinced it's totally the megaserver framework, but more Akamai's ddos protection service. They built their business on providing ddos protection to big company websites. I don't think they can handle the constant traffic/inputs from a mmo on the scale of ESO.

Casterial

100 - 150

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Gatviper

100 - 150

100 Mbit internet. Generally not lower than about 96, usually it's in 98-104 range, unless I'm in Cyrodiil, then it usually doesn't drop below 110. Even with that, the delays in actions often feel like lot higher ping than is displayed. Located in Europe so that ping is to be expected I guess.

Casterial

100 - 150

Gatviper wrote: »

100 Mbit internet. Generally not lower than about 96, usually it's in 98-104 range, unless I'm in Cyrodiil, then it usually doesn't drop below 110. Even with that, the delays in actions often feel like lot higher ping than is displayed. Located in Europe so that ping is to be expected I guess.

I agree with the last sentence. My ping will say 130, but feel like 200+

jcm2606

250 +

Casterial wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Have you run a trace of the routing? I'd bet you're shipped to Boston before being sent to the ESO physical servers. All traffic for ESO travels through Akamai first.

It's worse for us Oceanic players, actually. It's well known that Akamai sends Oceanic traffic up into Asia and through the Singapore scrubbing center, before sending to the ESO servers. They started doing so just after the Singapore center opened up, which was around October-ish last year, which was around the time our ping basically doubled.

There was a 10 page thread in the tech support section filled with everybody's traces from all over the Oceanic region (multiple Aussie states, NZ, Asia), and they all showed more or less the same thing. There's a 30+ page thread about this in the general section, and of course there's no actual response from Zenimax.

I can use a VPN such as Mudfish to bypass Akamai's routing and force Akamai to deal with my traffic as if it was US traffic, but I refuse to support this game while I'm having to pay for a VPN to just have playable ping

.

Zenimax made a big mistake by trusting megaserver technology when it was clearly not ready yet. What they should have done was the WoW shift, everyones on servers, but sharded. This way you can play with anyone, go to any phase if you have a friend etc.... I don't know. Megaservers are nice, but this is the cost.

Agree, many other games have similar systems, and work fine. Most immediate example I can think of is Path of Exile, which has multiple regional servers fronting for a global server "web" of sorts. You connect to your region's server, and you typically play on that server with low latency since it's fairly close to you, but you're also connected to all other regional servers, and you're able to interact with anybody on any other regional server.

Global chat is truly global, so I, an Aussie, am talking with US, European, and Asian players who are talking in the English global channel.

Whispers are also global, so if I want to buy something from an Asian player, I can whisper them (typically the trade site will give you a pregenerated response in the other player's chosen language), they'll send me an invite, and I can travel to their location, in their regional server. Latency is obviously higher, but I can go back to my own regional server when I want to go back to playing.

Groups are also regional, the group will be hosted on the regional server of whoever initially created the group. Again, higher latency, but I can go back to my own regional server if I want to play with lower latency. Obviously I'll have to drop group, though.

Unfortunately, I think it's just too late to do something like this. Too much work and resources would be needed to redesign the server infrastructure around that sort of system, on top of actually setting up regional servers around the globe. Then consider the fact that the game would be offline for at least a year or two, which could very possibly kill the game.

Casterial

100 - 150

jcm2606 wrote: »

Unfortunately, I think it's just too late to do something like this. Too much work and resources would be needed to redesign the server infrastructure around that sort of system, on top of actually setting up regional servers around the globe. Then consider the fact that the game would be offline for at least a year or two, which could very possibly kill the game.

This, this right here is why ESO2 may have to be a thing..

Czekoludek

250 +

Before Elsweyr it was always around 70-120, today it's around 300 usually

Gythral

Ping is not the issue (for me), what is is the totally random server response times!
RTT could be 2 or 3 times what I get, if the server just responded with the same delay, not this 10ms here, 1000ms there, that it actually does

MLGProPlayer

100 - 150

jcm2606 wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

jcm2606 wrote: »

Cries in Australian.

Yeah... They need to open an oceanic server lol.. But I think it'd be dead

To be honest, 250-300 doesn't bother me. It can get annoying, rolling just out of an AoE and still being hit, but it's playable.

What's not *** playable is 350+, which is what I get if I don't have a VPN up, specifically because of Akamai's *** routing. Drop Akamai so our ping is back to the 250-300 it usually is, work on improving servers so it goes back to the 200-250 it was when I started playing (just before 1T), and I'm good.

I had an Overwatch match today where I had 80 ping (it probably put me in a west coast game) and it was borderline unplayable. I'm used to playing all my games at <40 ping. Now, ESO isn't a shooter, so playing with high ping isn't the end of the world, but it's still a *** experience.

Hamish999

30 - 50

Casterial wrote: »

<snip>
In-game /latency shows 100+ So what is /latency calculating? Is it accurate? Is this how bad the client is for client to server relation?
TRACER (NA)
<snip>

The ingame latency shows the round trip, not just a one way "ping"

My results to the EU server. 42ms if I'm reading that correctly, which marries up with an in game latency of 87ms



Edit: This is through a VPN

mairwen85

200 - 250

Uk playing on pc NA, usually low 200, some spikes to 250, occasional 300+ (rare). Off peak sometimes as good as 180...

Xbox NA, solid 52ms.