TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
Their comment was not related to trials in any manner. They merely stated the what Zos has said the intend with jewelry crafting.
And trials vet content is where gold jewelry drops.
I said I dont care about trials. So I do not care if it cheapens the perceived "rewards" of trials.
I also said I dont care about what others do.
But again, that has nothing to do with the statement you quoted.
Further, you can get it from doing writs and as the comment you quoted indicated, Zos does not want it to be as easy to upgrade jewelry as it is to upgrade armor and weapons. It really is that simple.
Theyre terrible at making money, it would bring more people in and get rid of the bloody bots.
This makes no sense. It seems Zos is making pretty good money.
Unless you are complaining because you do not make good money from selling gold jewelry matts, which seems to be what you are talking about, then I would like to point you to the OP and title of this thread. It is not about jewelry crafting gold matts itself but gold upgrade matts in general.
No, I want a drop increase so I can gold out my gear in a sufficient and timely manner.
I got over 1.5k units of each gold material (besides jewelry where I have around 150 platings)
And that by just doing crafting writs every day on multiple chars / do crafting surveys / buying cheap stuff and reselling.
wtlonewolf20 wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
Their comment was not related to trials in any manner. They merely stated the what Zos has said the intend with jewelry crafting.
And trials vet content is where gold jewelry drops.
I said I dont care about trials. So I do not care if it cheapens the perceived "rewards" of trials.
I also said I dont care about what others do.
But again, that has nothing to do with the statement you quoted.
Further, you can get it from doing writs and as the comment you quoted indicated, Zos does not want it to be as easy to upgrade jewelry as it is to upgrade armor and weapons. It really is that simple.
Theyre terrible at making money, it would bring more people in and get rid of the bloody bots.
This makes no sense. It seems Zos is making pretty good money.
Unless you are complaining because you do not make good money from selling gold jewelry matts, which seems to be what you are talking about, then I would like to point you to the OP and title of this thread. It is not about jewelry crafting gold matts itself but gold upgrade matts in general.
No, I want a drop increase so I can gold out my gear in a sufficient and timely manner.
Why though? The only reason to gold gear is if your into endgame group content. The stat increase is minimal. Also ZOS did boost the drop rate. You just have to complete top tier daily crafting writs to get it. Also those writs if planned properly only take a few minutes per character. I can easily go through an entire roster within a reasonable of time
wtlonewolf20 wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
I would like to know what previous iterations your referring to. Gold improvement items have always been up there in costs. And it wasn't trade guilds that have done anything regarding that. The game has always had a group based endgame. Whether its pvp or pve
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Yeahhhh and when I *do* try to farm, popular areas have been bled dry from farmers like this....
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
Their comment was not related to trials in any manner. They merely stated the what Zos has said the intend with jewelry crafting.
And trials vet content is where gold jewelry drops.
I said I dont care about trials. So I do not care if it cheapens the perceived "rewards" of trials.
I also said I dont care about what others do.
But again, that has nothing to do with the statement you quoted.
Further, you can get it from doing writs and as the comment you quoted indicated, Zos does not want it to be as easy to upgrade jewelry as it is to upgrade armor and weapons. It really is that simple.
Theyre terrible at making money, it would bring more people in and get rid of the bloody bots.
This makes no sense. It seems Zos is making pretty good money.
Unless you are complaining because you do not make good money from selling gold jewelry matts, which seems to be what you are talking about, then I would like to point you to the OP and title of this thread. It is not about jewelry crafting gold matts itself but gold upgrade matts in general.
No, I want a drop increase so I can gold out my gear in a sufficient and timely manner.
and that is not an issue. I easily obtain enough gold matts from running 4 characters through writs and I probably get a little bit from the hirelings on each one. Ofc, in that I end up getting a bunch of raw matts via surveys that provide the bulk of the gold upgrade matts. It is really fast to do this.
I tend to keep 500 of each type of gold matt and sell the surplus. When I upgrade new gear (obviously on demand) I find I quickly get back up to 500 matts. Of course this does not include jewelry but as I stated above Zos has JC setup to be less common.
I keep multiple characters in gold gear so this would work well even if you have only one character. Of course it takes time to build up a storage of gold matts but wanting anything easier would seem more like entitlement.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
Their comment was not related to trials in any manner. They merely stated the what Zos has said the intend with jewelry crafting.
And trials vet content is where gold jewelry drops.
I said I dont care about trials. So I do not care if it cheapens the perceived "rewards" of trials.
I also said I dont care about what others do.
But again, that has nothing to do with the statement you quoted.
Further, you can get it from doing writs and as the comment you quoted indicated, Zos does not want it to be as easy to upgrade jewelry as it is to upgrade armor and weapons. It really is that simple.
Theyre terrible at making money, it would bring more people in and get rid of the bloody bots.
This makes no sense. It seems Zos is making pretty good money.
Unless you are complaining because you do not make good money from selling gold jewelry matts, which seems to be what you are talking about, then I would like to point you to the OP and title of this thread. It is not about jewelry crafting gold matts itself but gold upgrade matts in general.
No, I want a drop increase so I can gold out my gear in a sufficient and timely manner.
and that is not an issue. I easily obtain enough gold matts from running 4 characters through writs and I probably get a little bit from the hirelings on each one. Ofc, in that I end up getting a bunch of raw matts via surveys that provide the bulk of the gold upgrade matts. It is really fast to do this.
I tend to keep 500 of each type of gold matt and sell the surplus. When I upgrade new gear (obviously on demand) I find I quickly get back up to 500 matts. Of course this does not include jewelry but as I stated above Zos has JC setup to be less common.
I keep multiple characters in gold gear so this would work well even if you have only one character. Of course it takes time to build up a storage of gold matts but wanting anything easier would seem more like entitlement.
Your process is too bloody much time for upgrades.
We should be able to go farm for a few hours and be done with it.
If I work 8 hours in a day, sleep another 8 thats 16 hours. That leaves me 8 hours in a day, Im not spending all of that time grinding gold upgrades. Thats craziness.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
If your time is so precious, maybe you should buy crowns, sell them for gold and buy the mats in no time.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
If your time is so precious, maybe you should buy crowns, sell them for gold and buy the mats in no time.
Playing the game should be the norm for getting there, not being a wallet warrior.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Its pretty well balanced for gear/weps, the jewelry is still expensive af but its probably supposed to be that way considering the dust is 1/10 as useful as the other types.
Jewelry is supposed to be expensive so as to not trivialize vet content and the gold jewelry you can get.
Not everyone cares about vet content or wants to bother with trials.
Their comment was not related to trials in any manner. They merely stated the what Zos has said the intend with jewelry crafting.
And trials vet content is where gold jewelry drops.
I said I dont care about trials. So I do not care if it cheapens the perceived "rewards" of trials.
I also said I dont care about what others do.
But again, that has nothing to do with the statement you quoted.
Further, you can get it from doing writs and as the comment you quoted indicated, Zos does not want it to be as easy to upgrade jewelry as it is to upgrade armor and weapons. It really is that simple.
Theyre terrible at making money, it would bring more people in and get rid of the bloody bots.
This makes no sense. It seems Zos is making pretty good money.
Unless you are complaining because you do not make good money from selling gold jewelry matts, which seems to be what you are talking about, then I would like to point you to the OP and title of this thread. It is not about jewelry crafting gold matts itself but gold upgrade matts in general.
No, I want a drop increase so I can gold out my gear in a sufficient and timely manner.
and that is not an issue. I easily obtain enough gold matts from running 4 characters through writs and I probably get a little bit from the hirelings on each one. Ofc, in that I end up getting a bunch of raw matts via surveys that provide the bulk of the gold upgrade matts. It is really fast to do this.
I tend to keep 500 of each type of gold matt and sell the surplus. When I upgrade new gear (obviously on demand) I find I quickly get back up to 500 matts. Of course this does not include jewelry but as I stated above Zos has JC setup to be less common.
I keep multiple characters in gold gear so this would work well even if you have only one character. Of course it takes time to build up a storage of gold matts but wanting anything easier would seem more like entitlement.
Your process is too bloody much time for upgrades.
We should be able to go farm for a few hours and be done with it.
If I work 8 hours in a day, sleep another 8 thats 16 hours. That leaves me 8 hours in a day, Im not spending all of that time grinding gold upgrades. Thats craziness.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »
TheBonesXXX wrote: »
IDK, 18 chars crafting writs is like 45 minutes a day, crafting surveys I do like once a month which take an hour and listing stuff and checking traders for good deals takes me 5 minutes a day max.
On average its not even a whole hour per day, and with how boring ESO is atm its the only thing that I log on for, pre-investing time for future patches.
If you wanna have everything and do nothing for it (ingame) either spend real money and sell crowns or just go play on the PTS youre gonna have an infinte supply of gold materials there without ever having to do something for it.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »
IDK, 18 chars crafting writs is like 45 minutes a day, crafting surveys I do like once a month which take an hour and listing stuff and checking traders for good deals takes me 5 minutes a day max.
On average its not even a whole hour per day, and with how boring ESO is atm its the only thing that I log on for, pre-investing time for future patches.
If you wanna have everything and do nothing for it (ingame) either spend real money and sell crowns or just go play on the PTS youre gonna have an infinte supply of gold materials there without ever having to do something for it.
Sounds like you are describing household cores not a gaming experience.
So frequently I feel like I spend more time grinding for mats and new gear piece then I do actually getting to use them for end game content. Every quarter the rat race just starts over. I get MMOs are loot driven, but that shouldn't feel like the entire game cycle is built around getting the gear to spec. Most of the cycle should be using the equipment after it is there. In my opinion.
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TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
If your time is so precious, maybe you should buy crowns, sell them for gold and buy the mats in no time.
Playing the game should be the norm for getting there, not being a wallet warrior.
And it is the norm. And it doesn't take any ridiculous amounts of time some people are saying in this thread.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
If your time is so precious, maybe you should buy crowns, sell them for gold and buy the mats in no time.
Playing the game should be the norm for getting there, not being a wallet warrior.
And it is the norm. And it doesn't take any ridiculous amounts of time some people are saying in this thread.
Do you not read? I want an increase in drop for gold upgrades for raw materials. Yes, it does take an insanely long time.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »
IDK, 18 chars crafting writs is like 45 minutes a day, crafting surveys I do like once a month which take an hour and listing stuff and checking traders for good deals takes me 5 minutes a day max.
On average its not even a whole hour per day, and with how boring ESO is atm its the only thing that I log on for, pre-investing time for future patches.
If you wanna have everything and do nothing for it (ingame) either spend real money and sell crowns or just go play on the PTS youre gonna have an infinte supply of gold materials there without ever having to do something for it.
Sounds like you are describing household chores not a gaming experience.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »New patch, new gear. Can we get an increase for gold tier drops for the solo player?
No, what you are actually asking for is to screw those of us who farm and trade so you can have a cheaper more easily obtained supply.
You would take from one player to give to your self. We all have the same chance and methods to get golds. Either farm more or buy them. I have no problem having enough golds, I have stacks to sell, feel free to buy some.
I'm pretty sure at this point the OP is mainly talking about Gold Jewelry mats. Then again it'd be nice if people like you, who claim to have stacks sitting around, would list them at not so bank breaking prices. The average joe player doesn't have millions lying around collecting dust, I've seen many players say they emptied almost their entire balance just to gold out some gear.
Mostly jewelry, but I liked previous iterations of the game where gold mats were easier to acquire before the trade guilds and community put a damper on solo play.
I think its very unnecessary to gate basic things like upgrade mats behind an entire trade system.
Id like to see them become easier to acquire.
They're already ridiculously easy to acquire, even for a strong, independent solo player who don't need no community.
If that's too hard you, well, tough luck.
Im thinking like a solid 10:1 ratio. My time is bloody precious.
If your time is so precious, maybe you should buy crowns, sell them for gold and buy the mats in no time.
Playing the game should be the norm for getting there, not being a wallet warrior.
And it is the norm. And it doesn't take any ridiculous amounts of time some people are saying in this thread.
Do you not read? I want an increase in drop for gold upgrades for raw materials. Yes, it does take an insanely long time.
No it does not.
TheBonesXXX wrote: »TheBonesXXX wrote: »
IDK, 18 chars crafting writs is like 45 minutes a day, crafting surveys I do like once a month which take an hour and listing stuff and checking traders for good deals takes me 5 minutes a day max.
On average its not even a whole hour per day, and with how boring ESO is atm its the only thing that I log on for, pre-investing time for future patches.
If you wanna have everything and do nothing for it (ingame) either spend real money and sell crowns or just go play on the PTS youre gonna have an infinte supply of gold materials there without ever having to do something for it.
Sounds like you are describing household chores not a gaming experience.
I guess people here are unemployed or have no life outside of this game.
I also guess time management is hard for some, hell if I know.