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Calls for single target dots nerf already begun...smh

Jacozilla
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We all just ate the hot plate of AOE dot nerfs. Adapt and learn, get good...fine.

But not even 1 day into these nerfs, pvp players are already screaming for their next 'new reason they get killed' to be nerfed - threads are already up complaining single target dots which were buffed to offset some of the AOE dot nerfs are too strong and killing them too quickly in pvp.

So it's not a matter of guessing, or making wild assumptions. We all KNOW exactly what ZOS next move will be once the nerf single target dot cries brings enough salt.....ZOS will inevitably nerf the single target dots too, but not revert the AOE dots.

After single target dot nerfs, the next screams will be the new resto skill buffs are too strong. Never mind they were the only consolation prize for gutting other aspects of healing...we all know this where this inevitable cries of constant 'this X is why I am losing pvp fights' leads too. The only thing that changes is what placeholder those people throw into X.
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    Or ZOS could get smart and not listen to the whining.

    ^ This.


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  • Saelent
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    You’re surprised at the calls for nerfs?
    Being killed in PvP is very annoying!!! I don’t want to be killed, I want my character to be a GOD!!! I WANT TO PLAY MOLAG BALLSIE HIMSELF, AEDRA BE DAMNED!!!!
    Seriously speaking, ZOS seems pretty good so far at not listening to the obviously rushed calls for nerfs, I think things are safe for just a little while at least.
  • karekiz
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    chris211 wrote: »
    good luck adapting when you have 20k entropy's stacking on you totally balanced game play

    Don't they have some sort of PvP buff the effects dmg and heal? Ideally who the hell cares what an ability does in PvE. Adjust using that for PvP. Afterall its just a mini game.
    Edited by karekiz on August 12, 2019 10:35PM
  • exeeter702
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    But please understand that the Devs nerf things in large part because its a cheap way of keeping the game interesting.

    Except it doesn't; it keeps the game frustrating.

    I know of more players who have left ESO precisely because every patch is a complete "rebuild your toon from the ground up" experience than any other reason.

    After a patch such as this you need to relearn your class almost entirely, that will most likely require a complete re-gear with new sets, new traits, new glyphs.

    A massive resource and often time investment to do what?
    Get back to being 90% as effective as we were before the patch.
    I'm sorry, that is NOT interesting - it is insulting.

    And for PvE the ONLY reason we have to go through this every patch is because the Dev's are not intelligent enough to design combat encounters that are challenging by doing anything other than nerfing our DPS and buffing the Mob's health, and giving the Mobs perma-CC options.

    So, so, so glad I unsubbed.


    All The Best

    What exactly are you expecting? That your various builds from years ago remain relvant today? There is little recourse here when everything is flat in terms of progression. You are never going to get a completely balanced playing field. For better or worse there is going to be change. And frankly most of the "unsub" rhetoric is just hyperbolic outcrying, as its actually very much less frequent that certain changes are made that completely *** down certain builds to the point where you have to relearn *** from the ground up. And i find it hard to believe that amyone who actively plays this game habitually would struggle with resources for having to troubleshoot new builds every 6 months.
  • JamieAubrey
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    So my Stam Sorc DoT build will be OP this patch ? Finally can join the elite club
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  • zaria
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    karekiz wrote: »
    chris211 wrote: »
    good luck adapting when you have 20k entropy's stacking on you totally balanced game play

    Don't they have some sort of PvP buff the effects dmg and heal? Ideally who the hell cares what an ability does in PvE. Adjust using that for PvP. Afterall its just a mini game.
    In PvP all damage and healing is reduced to 50%.

    It could obviously be changed to 30% damage and healing. This would just establish an new balance and now other skills are OP as fights will be longer and more resource demanding.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • max_only
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    PVP players will always cry and whine if its not one things its another. Would be nice if ZOS would stop screwing the game for majority of us for the sake of minority.
    Drako_Ei wrote: »
    Separate pve from pvp

    Yes.
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  • Freakin_Hytte
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    People are always screaming about nerfs after patches, especially major ones as this. It will calm down in a couple of weeks when people have gotten used to it and know how to play the changes.
  • LightMaster7
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    People are always screaming about nerfs after patches, especially major ones as this. It will calm down in a couple of weeks when people have gotten used to it and know how to play the changes.

    lol thats if this game survives the round of mass quitting.

    I dont know this nerf to sorc Power Surge is pretty bad. I've decided to move on myself after my eso membership period ends this month.

    I've had enough of this game. The bad load screens. The constant nerfing. The BAD pathing in this game. The stupid animation cancelling ***, the random disconnects, there is sooo many issues ...
  • Freakin_Hytte
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    People are always screaming about nerfs after patches, especially major ones as this. It will calm down in a couple of weeks when people have gotten used to it and know how to play the changes.

    lol thats if this game survives the round of mass quitting.

    I dont know this nerf to sorc Power Surge is pretty bad. I've decided to move on myself after my eso membership period ends this month.

    I've had enough of this game. The bad load screens. The constant nerfing. The BAD pathing in this game. The stupid animation cancelling ***, the random disconnects, there is sooo many issues ...

    I agree, I'm not happy about 70% of the changes and I think the game will die if they don't fix the performance very soon. I hope their focusing on performance will fix it and fast. Although I don't think there will be a mass quit because of the changes.
  • Pednick
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    Drako_Ei wrote: »
    Separate pve from pvp

    ^
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  • Tattooo
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    People are always screaming about nerfs after patches, especially major ones as this. It will calm down in a couple of weeks when people have gotten used to it and know how to play the changes.

    Knowing how to play with these changes as in Xv1ing people using the zerg infront of you as a meatshield, ye sounds great.

    Scalebreaker sucks ass, period.
    Edited by Tattooo on August 13, 2019 12:24AM
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  • Nemesis7884
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    pvpers ALWAYS complain and ruin pve fun in the process - why everyone snd their mom wants a seperation between the two groups...but zos keeps pushing it and pushing it until....
  • Agenericname
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    99% of PvP Nerf Calls could be solved if far more players did one of two things:
    1) Man up and accept sometimes the other guy is just better than you.
    2) L2P

    Then there'd be no need for the Nerf-Go-Round to continue, and maybe they could start fixing genuine bugs and performance issues.


    All The Best

    You do realize that the Nerf-Go-Round would occur even if this were a 100% PVE game and no one complained ever, right?

    Its called horizontal progression. We've had it since One Tamriel. The Devs have to constantly shake up the meta so the game doesnt get boring and stagnant. Something always has to get nerfed so players move on to the next BIS without ever growing too powerful.

    I mean, PVPers need to L2Play as much as anyone, sure.

    But please understand that the Devs nerf things in large part because its a cheap way of keeping the game interesting.

    It was less that 8 hours into the game post patch. The loudest AND the fastest. ;)
  • Freakin_Hytte
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    Tattooo wrote: »
    People are always screaming about nerfs after patches, especially major ones as this. It will calm down in a couple of weeks when people have gotten used to it and know how to play the changes.

    Knowing how to play with these changes as in Xv1ing people using the zerg infront of you as a meatshield, ye sounds great.

    Scalebreaker sucks ass, period.

    Well it's not the first nor the last patch to suck. It have still always been like this, the first few weeks people are vocal and then it calms down.

    Don't know why you are complaining to me about this patch since the only thing I typed is that it will calm down in a thread that specifically discusses all the nerf threads. I also think it sucks, I was extremely happy when I thought zos would actually make medium more viable and then *** on it even more.
  • Tattooo
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    pvpers ALWAYS complain and ruin pve fun in the process - why everyone snd their mom wants a seperation between the two groups...but zos keeps pushing it and pushing it until....

    What´re you even saying ruining the fun in PVE ? PVE is *** easy, there´s no challenge in it...

    And if they try to make it challenging, they´ll just add random ass oneshot mechanics or defiles, which aren´t fun : )

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  • Tattooo
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    There´s not a single "challenging" AND FUN dungeon out there, besides March of Sacrafices maybe ...
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  • Tattooo
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    When I saw the pts notes for the first time I was actually really happy with the direction they were going with, nerf snb/heavy armor too ***, so it won´t be used anymore.... and buff overall healing so medium will actually be viable ...

    And then they buffed dots ... : )
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  • Canned_Apples
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    karekiz wrote: »
    chris211 wrote: »
    good luck adapting when you have 20k entropy's stacking on you totally balanced game play

    Don't they have some sort of PvP buff the effects dmg and heal? Ideally who the hell cares what an ability does in PvE. Adjust using that for PvP. Afterall its just a mini game.

    Battlegrounds and Maelstrom Arena are mini games, cyrodiil isn't.
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