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Scalding Rune -> Give minor force like barbed trap

Jodynn
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It's annoying AF having to slot a stam skill on a mag toon

Channeled isn't an alternative because the cast time with weaving is trashy and makes me want to die, thank you.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please look into this, it's a quality of life change and would also make the skill lines better represent magicka characters.

Thank you for your time

Jodynn PC NA
PvE and PvP MagDK
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Barbed trap is BaE. Trap tooltip on MAGblade with trial buffs:
    34r26sa5rpci.jpg
  • Jodynn
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    Barbed trap is BaE. Trap tooltip on MAGblade with trial buffs:
    34r26sa5rpci.jpg

    8vbm5iopg667.png

    with that 0 pen and low crit it sure does a lot....
    same tooltip btw

    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • Jodynn
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    Barbed trap is BaE. Trap tooltip on MAGblade with trial buffs:
    34r26sa5rpci.jpg

    8vbm5iopg667.png

    with that 0 pen and low crit it sure does a lot....
    same tooltip btw

    ignore embers, it's dumb right now in cmx, it splits into two... idk
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Great idea!
  • Stibbons
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    Great balance idea!
  • Jodynn
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    Please? <3
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • Heymexa
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    Very good Idea!
  • Betty_Booms
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    Would have to sacrifice the aoe aspect which I would be happy to do. They would be similar damage also then.

    Just another way Stam is ahaead.
  • Jodynn
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    Would have to sacrifice the aoe aspect which I would be happy to do. They would be similar damage also then.

    Just another way Stam is ahaead.

    It only lasts 14 seconds and 2 second activation so 12 seconds; therefore, I could argue a 3 meter radius is fine for scalding rune to keep.
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • Muzzick
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    Would have to sacrifice the aoe aspect which I would be happy to do. They would be similar damage also then.

    Just another way Stam is ahaead.

    Same, I would be happy with single target
    Edited by Muzzick on August 20, 2019 3:53PM
  • Jodynn
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    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • Saril_Durzam
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    Good idea, indeed.

    So it wont be implemented.

    :)
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Yes please. I hate having to run a stamina ability.
  • Vexarius
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    For once the forums actually suggest a great non salty idea! This is a great suggestion.
  • Urusovite
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    Why is homogenization good?
    PS4 NA
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    Technologically incompetent I'm told

    Solo play is the only way
  • jypcy
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    Urusovite wrote: »
    Why is homogenization good?

    Multiple ways to look at homogenization. Every class and every build is currently “homogenized” in the sense that they all use the same skill to get minor force while parsing. Per this suggestion, ZOS could somewhat “homogenize” the trap beast/fire rune skills by making both skills grant the same buff, although this would presumably lead to greater diversity in the builds themselves. Whether or not homogenization is good, you have it either way in the current shakeup so idk that its goodness (or perhaps lack thereof) really bears consideration.
  • jypcy
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    jypcy wrote: »
    Urusovite wrote: »
    Why is homogenization good?

    Multiple ways to look at homogenization. Every class and every build is currently “homogenized” in the sense that they all use the same skill to get minor force while parsing. Per this suggestion, ZOS could somewhat “homogenize” the trap beast/fire rune skills by making both skills grant the same buff, although this would presumably lead to greater diversity in the builds themselves. Whether or not homogenization is good, you have it either way in the current shakeup so idk that its goodness (or perhaps lack thereof) really bears consideration.

    That said, I think homogenization as it tends towards balance is good. For example, if we consider Liko’s parses indicative of the general balance between classes, the stamina build of a class comes out ahead more often than not, and in some of these cases by a noticeable margin. Plus, whereas these stamina builds often already have flex spots or survival skills built in that’ll likely be needed in actual content, I think the mag builds are actively using all of their active skill slots to parse close to the level of their stamina counterparts, one of these slots being taken by barbed trap. Another one of these slots is taken by scalding rune already on most/all of these mag builds, so if you just move minor force from a stamina scaling skill to a magicka scaling one, mag can keep their important buffs and slot survivability (or more damage for the sake of pure parsing) without much loss.

    I don’t think that different colored skills with exactly the same damage, cost, and effect across builds is all that exciting, but I don’t mind small changes in that direction if they can help balance. And, as noted above, add some diversity of a different kind at the same time.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Great idea! Good Job OP!




  • Jodynn
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    Any news or thoughts so far @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_BrianWheeler ?
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • Jodynn
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    ZOS please don't ignore your community
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • f047ys3v3n
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    excellent idea, it frees up a bar slot and that is a desperate need.
    Yes I am deeply embarrassed to still be playing this game. I know better.
  • lassitershawn
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    Ya
    William Thorne - EP Breton Sorcerer
    Astrid Winterborn - EP Breton Warden
    Erik Ironskin - EP Nord Dragonknight
    Venasa Viri - EP Dunmer Nightblade

    IR x8, GH x5, TTT x2
  • Urusovite
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    mmm no
    PS4 NA
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    Technologically incompetent I'm told

    Solo play is the only way
  • berzerkdethb14_ESO1
    been calling for this for a long time. THIS NEEDS to happen. You will get a lot of stam users coming in here who don't want to adapt, crying that magicka needs nothing, but fight the good fight.
  • SHANKS_63
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    This is one if the best ideas I have heard in awhile.
  • Jodynn
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    SHANKS_63 wrote: »
    This is one if the best ideas I have heard in awhile.

    Thank you; I had a lot of consideration and have being thinking it but now scalding rune is actually somewhat viable but still overshadowed by soul trap in damage output but if had a minor buff attached it would be actually viable and deserve a spot on my bar.

    So let's hope ZOS heeds our words.
    Edited by Jodynn on August 27, 2019 4:35PM
    Jodynn PC NA
    PvE and PvP MagDK
  • OG_Kaveman
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    how about giving channeled acceleration a damage proc, sort of like grim focus. i don't know, i just don't want another dot to watch countdown before refreshing.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    been calling for this for a long time. THIS NEEDS to happen. You will get a lot of stam users coming in here who don't want to adapt, crying that magicka needs nothing, but fight the good fight.

    Nearly 3 weeks since OP started that topic and I still don't see "a lot of stam users coming in here who don't want to adapt...". Are you just stiring things up to feel like you fight the good fight? ;-)
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