Moon-Sugar Meadow

MornaBaine · August 2019

First, is it on PTS yet? Second... I might consider it if I could build a reasonably decent small house on it AND furnish it AND make the rest of the place into a fairly dense forest.

What do you folks think of this upcoming house?

SantieClaws · August 2019

Khajiit has plans! Such plans.

Yes it is presently on PTS. A walk round will give you many ideas. There are mainly three flat areas, two beach areas and various little hills and things.

Very pleased we will have it so soon. Was expecting to wait several months.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

MornaBaine · August 2019

I am cautiously excited @SantieClaws ! Maybe I'll actually start PTS downloading again when I go to bed tonight! LOL

Nerouyn · August 2019

It's lovely, but if it can't be purchased with gold I'll pass.

EDIT

I've compared this to older crown store showcase announcements for other homes and I'm not sure that it won't be available for gold.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56715

The Moon-Sugar Meadow home will be available in the Crown Store on all platforms starting on August 29. The Moon-Sugar Meadow is only available unfurnished.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26353

The Coldharbour Surreal Estate will be available on all platforms starting on April 4.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54891

The Exorcised Coven Cottage will be available on all platforms for a limited time, from October 19 to November 1.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/54891

The Exorcised Coven Cottage will return to the Crown Store on all platforms for a limited time, from October 18 to November 1.

That said I vaguely remember the estate and cottage being purchasable for gold as something which had been officially confirmed ahead of time. That hasn't happened with the meadow.

Looking at their wiki entry histories, the gold price for estate and cottage was listed before their crown showcase announcements.

https://en.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Online:Coldharbour_Surreal_Estate&oldid=1750369

https://en.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Online:Exorcised_Coven_Cottage&oldid=1658326

MornaBaine · August 2019

Nerouyn wrote: »

It's lovely, but if it can't be purchased with gold I'll pass.

I can't blame you for that. it's looking like they have completely moved away from housing for in game gold tho, which is VERY unfortunate.

Minyassa · August 2019

I am profoundly disappointed to see that this is featured in the Crown Store Showcase for this month.

They had the chance to be heroes and they dropped the ball. This could've been just like Coldharbour Surreal Estate and it could've set a precedent and really encouraged people to spend gold. Now the only people who can spend gold on it are the multimillionaires. Bad show, ZOS.

Tigerseye · August 2019

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

MornaBaine · August 2019

Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

Earrindo · August 2019

There is no end date listed for the meadow, which means it will likely be a permanent addition. Thus it will probably be available for gold as well as crowns.

Zypheran · August 2019

Earrindo wrote: »

There is no end date listed for the meadow, which means it will likely be a permanent addition. Thus it will probably be available for gold as well as crowns.

Not necessarily, look at EarthTear

Zypheran · August 2019

MornaBaine wrote: »

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Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

I think the Elsweyr style offers fairly comprehensive structural capabilities. This is an example of what is possible with them at MoonSugar Meadow

https://youtu.be/Ln2pBrmWAgU

Earrindo · August 2019

Zypheran wrote: »

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Earrindo wrote: »

There is no end date listed for the meadow, which means it will likely be a permanent addition. Thus it will probably be available for gold as well as crowns.

Not necessarily, look at EarthTear

Fair point.
I suppose we shall see how it all shakes out. I'd forgotten about Earthtear...

SantieClaws · August 2019

In the small print of the article they also mention a sale on 'structures' at about the same time.

So do not forget to stock up on tents and pergolas if you think you might need them for part of your project.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Tigerseye · August 2019

MornaBaine wrote: »

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Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

Yeah, exactly.

Tigerseye · August 2019

Zypheran wrote: »

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MornaBaine wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

I think the Elsweyr style offers fairly comprehensive structural capabilities. This is an example of what is possible with them at MoonSugar Meadow
https://youtu.be/Ln2pBrmWAgU

You've done an amazing job there, but as someone who is more into the interior design side, rather than the building side, I would be frustrated to not have enough slots left for lots of lighting and pillows on the sofas and so on.

Also, it would help if they at least added window frames (ideally, with a glass-like finish that just very slightly blurred the view, like the glass in a real window does) and doors.

Rather than having to use curtains instead of doors and random items, like Ayleid grates, or wooden trellises, for window frames, or leave them completely open.

SantieClaws · August 2019

Just one little clue here as to the big plans of this one

You do not have to build just one big house …

Though for all of us I know that the item limit is ultimately going to be an issue.

We can do very good things though and this one is greatly looking forward to seeing them all.

Someday though you never know … you might be travelling in Elsweyr and find yourself stopping for refreshing ale and fish at Claws Meadow Village.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Claws Meadow Village

MornaBaine · August 2019

Zypheran wrote: »

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MornaBaine wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

I think the Elsweyr style offers fairly comprehensive structural capabilities. This is an example of what is possible with them at MoonSugar Meadow
https://youtu.be/Ln2pBrmWAgU

Okay hats off to you. That looks AMAZING! My own idea is for something much smaller in scale so now I have hope! Thank you for sharing your beautiful build!

Jaimeh · August 2019

Zypheran wrote: »

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MornaBaine wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

It's beautiful, but I know I won't be able to build a decent house, plus furnish it to a satisfactory standard, on 700 slots.

Then, of course, there is the fact that you can't resize building assets and there are no real window frames, doors, or roofs, you can use.

Really wish you could add an optional, pre-built, house to these plots.

Or, alternatively, remove one that is already placed there, if you prefer.

If either was the case, I would buy it.

I have often thought the same thing! And there are sooo many good, reasonably sized, buildings in the game already that would make great houses. I really would love to have a choice of plots of land and then a choice of houses to put on them in the location/position I want. That would be amazing. Right now their building pieces are... just enough to be frustrating. Like you have the good BEGINNINGS of something...but you can't complete ANY style. *sigh*

I think the Elsweyr style offers fairly comprehensive structural capabilities. This is an example of what is possible with them at MoonSugar Meadow
https://youtu.be/Ln2pBrmWAgU

This is absolutely amazing, you are a master builder! I love how the entrance opens to an inner courtyard, the symmetry in the stairs, the balconies that overlook the water... and when you swim around, and we can see the building: that such an immense and beautifully designed structure. I also like all the attention that you put into small details, in the interior decorations, for eg. the little ceiling decorations above the stairs, etc., everything looks attended to. You've given me so much inspiration, and I really hope they make the house available for gold, like the Coldharbour estate.

MornaBaine · August 2019

Hmmm... I don't remember where to find the PTS to download it.

SantieClaws · August 2019

On the account page?

Below where it says what you have perhaps?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Veinblood1965 · August 2019

MornaBaine wrote: »

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Nerouyn wrote: »

It's lovely, but if it can't be purchased with gold I'll pass.

I can't blame you for that. it's looking like they have completely moved away from housing for in game gold tho, which is VERY unfortunate.

Agreed, I find it distasteful to say the least. I don't even really get into housing just find it doesn't sit well with me at all. It would be nice to know if this was due to ZoS really needing the extra money for programmers etc or just greed. Programming I can understand but if just greed then it's reprehensible.

Aurie · August 2019

@Zypheran your build is quite something!

Thank you for sharing with us

Alexsae · August 2019

@Zypheran I always look forward to your creations. This meadow is truly spectacular. Thank you so much for sharing!

Master_Fluff · August 2019

MornaBaine wrote: »

Hmmm... I don't remember where to find the PTS to download it.

It's in the launcher, the cogwheel near the minimize and close buttons.

mayasunrising · August 2019

I unfortunately have to jump on the boat of folk that will need to pass if it's only sold for crowns. Primarily, because I'm a disability so have a very limited income. I know ZOS needs to make money to stay in operation, but it surely would be great if they would start offering more in-game gold housing options again.

SantieClaws · August 2019

A little more tinkering at the weekend - before much more tinkering when this one can walk in Test Tamriel herself - hopefully tonight!

Using the platforms there are already there, which are very deep and actually sunk into the ground, it is possible to sort of create flat areas on top of some of the rocks - which can then be used for building on.

This one was working out the site of the village temple and she thinks the location she has chosen will work quite well with the platform.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Temple site - using platform to work around the rocks

jcf190b14_ESO · August 2019

I'm looking forward to this homestead to make a marketplace for my Baandari character. Thanks for the ideas and concepts!

MornaBaine · August 2019

jcf190b14_ESO wrote: »

I'm looking forward to this homestead to make a marketplace for my Baandari character. Thanks for the ideas and concepts!

It'll be perfect for all the khajitii tents and such. Hope you'll post pics!

SantieClaws · August 2019

This one has travelled there again tonight and built a little approximation of the village temple.

Before she did so though she took a rough film of the area for planning purposes.

You may find it useful too also perhaps?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

https://youtu.be/FZLNu0bBgZc

jcf190b14_ESO · August 2019

SantieClaws wrote: »

This one has travelled there again tonight and built a little approximation of the village temple.

Before she did so though she took a rough film of the area for planning purposes.

You may find it useful too also perhaps?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

https://youtu.be/FZLNu0bBgZc

Love it. Thank you!

PS I clicked on your link to the imperial trading company and it took me to a spamware, virus laden website...I had to shut down my entire browser to get out of it

SantieClaws · August 2019

jcf190b14_ESO wrote: »

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SantieClaws wrote: »

This one has travelled there again tonight and built a little approximation of the village temple.

Before she did so though she took a rough film of the area for planning purposes.

You may find it useful too also perhaps?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

https://youtu.be/FZLNu0bBgZc

Love it. Thank you!

PS I clicked on your link to the imperial trading company and it took me to a spamware, virus laden website...I had to shut down my entire browser to get out of it

Ah sorry. We updated the website url last year and this one probably did not change it.

She will sort it now.

Edit: and fixed

Yours with paws
Santie Claws