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Elemental Succession Changes

TheNightflame
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So far, the changes have all been good for this set (thank you!) but currently it feels like a multipurpose and slightly stronger netch's touch/silks of the sun/ysgramors birthright.

Please try to maintain this set's uniqueness. As it stands in .3, it's simply a generic and more powerful replacement for those three sets on their relevant builds.
  • Kolzki
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    A more powerful version with potential to be used front bar on certain builds but doesn’t buff the new universal dots of soul trap or entropy. Sounds interesting. Needs testing.
  • jypcy
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    It does seem like it could be a new bis to replace spell strategist/burning spellweave/mother’s sorrow when in combat against multiple targets, at least for some classes without much/any magic damage (e.g., magdk, possibly magcro). Maybe some of those other sets could be buffed to a similar level for their respective element or provide extra regular spell damage in addition to a massive boost to a particular element. But I’m definitely excited to try out the new ES.
  • Amarthiul
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    Magicka Necro would make good use of it too, no class abilities in a standard setup do Magic Damage.
  • Kolzki
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    Jeezye wrote: »
    So far, the changes have all been good for this set (thank you!) but currently it feels like a multipurpose and slightly stronger netch's touch/silks of the sun/ysgramors birthright.

    Please try to maintain this set's uniqueness. As it stands in .3, it's simply a generic and more powerful replacement for those three sets on their relevant builds.

    thats what I was thinking, its a virtual 100% uptime on all buffs. Basically gives you 550 spell dmg to all three elemental types just by casting force pulse.

    Glimpsing at my DK at that point..

    My thoughts too on the dk. If any class can use it then it’s going to be mag dk or mag necro.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    It sounds good on paper, 550 Spell Damage for each element, lasting 4s, every 4s. I’m not sure it will be great in practice though. Depending on class, a lot of damage is from the Magic type: Soul Trap, Entropy, Crystal Frags, Curse, Radiant Oppression, Blazing Spear, Assassins Will, Cripple, Twisting Path, Deep Fissure, Swarm, Eternal Guardian, etc.

    I guess we’ll have to test it to know for sure. It may come down to how the uptimes work if it’s on front bar only. Would need to be pretty high to compete with sets like Spell Strat or Siroria.

    I do agree that Netch, Sun, and War Maiden are all hopelessly underpowered. Maybe next balance patch...
  • Runefang
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    It could be the best trash mob set to run with false gods for some classes. Most aoe damage skills have an elemental damage type.
  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
    Going to go test this right now on my dk....
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  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
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    Cooldown is 5 seconds but :
    Reduced the cooldown to 4 seconds from 8.
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  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
    Was looking forward to testing this, but, R.I.P

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  • WrathOfInnos
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    Cooldown is 5 seconds but :
    Reduced the cooldown to 4 seconds from 8.

    Sounds like exactly the same thing that happened to Spell Strat a few months ago.
  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
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    Cooldown is 5 seconds but :
    Reduced the cooldown to 4 seconds from 8.

    Sounds like exactly the same thing that happened to Spell Strat a few months ago.

    yep I tested that patch too =_=
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  • FatelessLava
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    From my testing on Magcro I’ve been getting anywhere between 58-70% uptimes on each elemental proc. With an average in the mid 60% range
    Prior to this PTS patch I’ve been runing bsw because this set was broken on Necromancer where you couldn’t summon Mage half the time when the set did proc. Now that it’s fixed I’ve been testing away.
    Edited by FatelessLava on July 30, 2019 1:44AM
  • ccfeeling
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    So is this a good set after patched ?
  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
    Currently in it's broken state it's okay, if they change the cooldown to be correct, it should be a good set
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    MagDK
    StamDK
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Jeezye wrote: »
    So far, the changes have all been good for this set (thank you!) but currently it feels like a multipurpose and slightly stronger netch's touch/silks of the sun/ysgramors birthright.

    Please try to maintain this set's uniqueness. As it stands in .3, it's simply a generic and more powerful replacement for those three sets on their relevant builds.

    thats what I was thinking, its a virtual 100% uptime on all buffs. Basically gives you 550 spell dmg to all three elemental types just by casting force pulse.

    Glimpsing at my DK at that point..

    Just think the other side of losing buff to Magicka Damage.

    This set seems fine for particular builds and shall not nerf or will be trashed again.
  • vesselwiththepestle
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    RIP Silks of the Sun.
  • Dracane
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    It looks good, but not overwhelming. It does not proc on ground aoes, only direct damage.
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    Trinimac is my shield,
    Magnus is my mind.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    RIP Silks of the Sun.

    Why RIP if you can combine
  • robpr
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    Finally something to replace siroria in extremely mobile fights on my mDK. And if you say that it limits because of entropy and soul trap, you are right, but also scalding rune and flame reach exist.
  • Runefang
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It looks good, but not overwhelming. It does not proc on ground aoes, only direct damage.

    Really? That makes it pretty worthless unless you’re a DK then. Direct lightning and frost damage is hard to come by in a PvE build.
  • Fang_of_Lorkhaj
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    Wait.... so a possible 1500 damage increase from all 3 active elements o_O
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Dracane wrote: »
    It looks good, but not overwhelming. It does not proc on ground aoes, only direct damage.

    Correct, but keep in mind once it procs the damage buff applies to AOE skills ...
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    "First, I would ask that you look to the poor and the suffering around Cyrodiil. Look into their hearts, and then look into your own."
    "May Auri-El's light guide you in your darkest hours."

    North American (NA) PC Megaserver (click to view):
    Vilerihala - Magicka Templar (Altmer ~ Dedicated Healer) ~ Màisalihna - Stamina Dragonknight (Bosmer) ~ Áhliaselia - Stamina Templar (Bosmer) ~ Thraccenia Vendicci - Stamina Sorcerer (Imperial) ~ daa'Vaaliánia - Magicka Warden (Dunmer) ~ Wenayastare - Magicka Dragonknight (Altmer) ~ Aráliavina - Stamina Nightblade (Bosmer) ~ Ysyna Rielle - Magicka Warden (Breton) ~ Dro-r'Aahni Bright-Paws - Magicka Necromancer (Khajiit) ~ Rhusannah - Stamina Nightblade (Redguard) ~ Eirellonye - Magicka Nightblade (Altmer) ~ Lae'Suuriávia - Stamina Warden (Bosmer) ~ Dralora Savani - Magicka Sorcerer (Dunmer) ~ Billows-With-Incense - Magicka Warden (Argonian ~ Dedicated Healer) ~ Anísa'Vardaia - Health Dragonknight (Imperial) ~ Azhnakha gra-Shugarz - Stamina Necromancer (Orc) ~ Vilinalara - Magicka Sorcerer (Altmer ~ Grand Master Crafter)
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Wait.... so a possible 1500 damage increase from all 3 active elements o_O
    Wait.... so a possible 1500 damage increase from all 3 active elements o_O

    Not very good at math I see

    Yep, someone hasn’t read the natch potes yet ...
    "May you walk on warm sands."
    "First, I would ask that you look to the poor and the suffering around Cyrodiil. Look into their hearts, and then look into your own."
    "May Auri-El's light guide you in your darkest hours."

    North American (NA) PC Megaserver (click to view):
    Vilerihala - Magicka Templar (Altmer ~ Dedicated Healer) ~ Màisalihna - Stamina Dragonknight (Bosmer) ~ Áhliaselia - Stamina Templar (Bosmer) ~ Thraccenia Vendicci - Stamina Sorcerer (Imperial) ~ daa'Vaaliánia - Magicka Warden (Dunmer) ~ Wenayastare - Magicka Dragonknight (Altmer) ~ Aráliavina - Stamina Nightblade (Bosmer) ~ Ysyna Rielle - Magicka Warden (Breton) ~ Dro-r'Aahni Bright-Paws - Magicka Necromancer (Khajiit) ~ Rhusannah - Stamina Nightblade (Redguard) ~ Eirellonye - Magicka Nightblade (Altmer) ~ Lae'Suuriávia - Stamina Warden (Bosmer) ~ Dralora Savani - Magicka Sorcerer (Dunmer) ~ Billows-With-Incense - Magicka Warden (Argonian ~ Dedicated Healer) ~ Anísa'Vardaia - Health Dragonknight (Imperial) ~ Azhnakha gra-Shugarz - Stamina Necromancer (Orc) ~ Vilinalara - Magicka Sorcerer (Altmer ~ Grand Master Crafter)
  • vesselwiththepestle
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    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    RIP Silks of the Sun.

    Why RIP if you can combine
    Well, in that case RIP BSW ;).



  • brandoncoffmannub18_ESO
    For magdk entropy is back bar and a dot so... Doesn't actually matter because ele succession should be frontbar only.

    Soul trap I don't use.

    Would love to test this set hopefully zos fixes it soon >.>

    For BSW it's still usable and nice, it applies burning which is a nice DoT and is good for combustion passives, however, bsw been dead for awhile compared to MS or SS in PvE, I don't even talk PvP because you can do so much weird *** but honestly crafty alfiq is better between the two.
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    MagDK
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  • Vortigaunt
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    RIP Silks of the Sun.
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    RIP Silks of the Sun.

    Why RIP if you can combine
    Well, in that case RIP BSW ;).



    Nah still can combine. All 3 are gonna be viable.
  • Iskiab
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    Don’t magic damage attacks become the element of the destruction staff you’re using? I was never clear on how this works.

    I was thinking it’s a reason to not go 2h on a magicka class.
    Edited by Iskiab on July 30, 2019 12:59PM
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  • Vortigaunt
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Don’t magic damage attacks become the element of the destruction staff you’re using? I was never clear on how this works.

    No. Magic damage is just magic damage, the 4th element. You have fire damage, frost damage, ice damage, lightning damage and magic damage. Magic damage is basically the equivalent of physical damage. Literally no added bonuses.

    This set doesn’t affect magic damage, therefore is not that good for sorc and magblade off the top of my head.
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