Question about Sigil Stingy achievement (vBRP)

Olupajmibanan

Hello, just wanted to ask a quick question about the Sigil Stingy achievement from veteran Blackrose Prison.

If we accidentaly take sigil and then wipe, will we get the achievement?

We don't really want to spend hours trying just to not get the achievement despite being it a no-sigil run. So we are asking in advance to know: if we accidentaly take a sigil, shall we wipe and then continue or shall we start vBRP from beginning?

Achievement text: Defeat Battlemage Ennodius, Tames-the-Beast, Lady Minera, and Drakeeh the Unchained in Veteran Blackrose without using Sigils during combat.

Thanks for quick answers.

Beach_The_Canoe

It will not. Any sigil you use during the entirety of the arena will count against you as they've still decreased your score from that round.

Teuton67

How exactly does the penalty for using Sigils work? Is the penalty per stage, or overall? Is there a limit per round on the penalty for using Sigils?

Also, is one hour the point where the score gets penalized like vDSA? What is the points per minute?

code65536

Teuton67 wrote: »

How exactly does the penalty for using Sigils work? Is the penalty per stage, or overall? Is there a limit per round on the penalty for using Sigils?

Also, is one hour the point where the score gets penalized like vDSA? What is the points per minute?

There is no score penalty for sigil usage. Instead, there is a score bonus for non-usage. At the end of every completed wave, any unused sigils remaining grants bonus points.

If you use a sigil during a wave, wipe, and then complete that wave without a sigil use, the you will receive the full sigil score bonus for that wave (the wipe is much costlier for your score though). Whether that applies for the achievement, I don't know. If the achievement is tied to sigil score bonuses, then wiping should reset an accidental use. If it is tracked separately, then wiping will likely not help.

As for time, it works the same way as all other scored content. Specifically, time adjustment is applied as a % bonus or penalty to your final unadjusted score, at the rate of 0.01% per second under or over the par completion time. So for a no-sigil run with high vitality, each minute is worth more in absolute points than in a run with high sigil usage and no vitality.

Teuton67

Thanks for the reply