This set cannot be real...

LuxLunae

I tested it, it's a great overall set. It's fair in both pvp and pve. It was true what somebody said, the changes in how bleeds work now keeps the set in check.


So I was looking at a third party site for a medium set when I bumped into this one...

Dro'Zakar's Claw
(2 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) For every bleed effect you have on an enemy, increase your Weapon Damage by 200 against them.

Aparently this is going to be in scalebreaker...

If you keep up your average bleeds...on average you get 400 weapon damage guaranteed (in theory never tested yet)...if you use axes or some other means of bleed....800 weapon damage (maybe more)....

Look, I will go into PTS and test this out because right now I am only theorizing that it will be broken and top meta pvp next patch... I mean this with Blooddrinker or Deadly Strike... This is a DK's DREAM!!....

I can see it now... initial DK DOTs...get them to use cleanse/purge early... replace all dots.. then leap to stun them... letting them bleed out quick...then we get that 2 hander and EXECUTE!!!

This is medium armor no less...weapon damage should be out the roof...(not sure if it will be affected by brutality or not...im going on pts and see if i can try and use these sets)

remember the set is broken.. not bleeds...not bleeds...

Savos_Saren

ZOS has changed bleeds to act as every other DOT (it doesn't ignore resistances now). It's different from poison because you can have multiple bleed effects on you. I don't think you can have multiple poison effects (but I could be wrong).

ArchMikem

It said bleed effect. Most if not all DK DoTs are poison. That shouldnt count.

LuxLunae

Savos_Saren wrote: »

ZOS has changed bleeds to act as every other DOT (it doesn't ignore resistances now). It's different from poison because you can have multiple bleed effects on you. I don't think you can have multiple poison effects (but I could be wrong).

Yeah but the set says increase weapon damage against them 200 per bleed...

so the other DOTs and single target damage you do will also be more powerful due to the extra weapon damage against the target when you apply the bleeds...

Yes it is true stacking bleeds up that high will only be for at max possibly (havent went on pts to test) 4 seconds but... it's like once you see full stack.. you know when to attack....

Mancombe_Nosehair

It's definitely not real. It's only a game, you know;)

susmitds

You won't be able to keep up the weapon damage at 800, as you rarely keep both DW and 2H passives bleeds procced at the same time. That does happen but quite rare tbh. Average weapon damage from it is slightly higher than 400.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

already thought of, look here-

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/484373/pts-5-1-0-42k-bleed-build-dw-2h-up-to-72k-buffed/p1

sets not that good.

Colecovision

PVE perspective, It actually needs a buff. I was super excited about the set, but after testing it with a few different classes, it's underwhelming.

Keep in mind it's single target and requires a big wind up to get so many bleeds on the one target. With those conditions, it's competition is rele and rele is just way better. Also most of us already have it.

Maybe there should be 300 damage overall with any bleed active and then 125 additional per bleed on the target with the bleed. I mean, hundings is 299 everywhere without conditions.

idk, but it's not the super set it looked like when I first read it and I don't know if I'll bother farming it even though I'm going 2H/DW full time.

Nemesis7884

LuxLunae wrote: »

So I was looking at a third party site for a medium set when I bumped into this one...

Dro'Zakar's Claw
(2 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) For every bleed effect you have on an enemy, increase your Weapon Damage by 200 against them.

Aparently this is going to be in scalebreaker...

If you keep up your average bleeds...on average you get 400 weapon damage guaranteed (in theory never tested yet)...if you use axes or some other means of bleed....800 weapon damage (maybe more)....

Look, I will go into PTS and test this out because right now I am only theorizing that it will be broken and top meta pvp next patch... I mean this with Blooddrinker or Deadly Strike... This is a DK's DREAM!!....

I can see it now... initial DK DOTs...get them to use cleanse/purge early... replace all dots.. then leap to stun them... letting them bleed out quick...then we get that 2 hander and EXECUTE!!!

This is medium armor no less...weapon damage should be out the roof...(not sure if it will be affected by brutality or not...im going on pts and see if i can try and use these sets)

remember the set is broken.. not bleeds...not bleeds...

it was already tested on the pts and resulted in a 70 parse - so defin. not op but something besides dw and bow will be viable now

ChunkyCat

Please, sir, let me have the nice things.

Wuuffyy

Not even nice. Actually needs a buff

LuxLunae

susmitds wrote: »

You won't be able to keep up the weapon damage at 800, as you rarely keep both DW and 2H passives bleeds procced at the same time. That does happen but quite rare tbh. Average weapon damage from it is slightly higher than 400.

We'll see when it goes live...

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

already thought of, look here-

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/484373/pts-5-1-0-42k-bleed-build-dw-2h-up-to-72k-buffed/p1

sets not that good.

I took a look at it and saw it but did they use DK as well?

For some reason I have no idea how to test it in the PTS... anybody can tell me how? I deleted a character and made a new one but i didn't see the template option...where is it?

ChunkyCat

When you create a new character on the PTS, somewhere in the top left of the screen will be a drop down menu to choose a template character with maxed out everything.

Red_Feather

Bleeds is changing! Will be unique. It stacks in intensity now and can be mitigated.

Wuuffyy

Red_Feather wrote: »

Bleeds is changing! Will be unique. It stacks in intensity now and can be mitigated.

What's unique about it. Lighting dots stack, fire dors, poison etc.

Physical dots already exist.

There isnt a intensity change based on how many are on? What?

LuxLunae

ChunkyCat wrote: »

When you create a new character on the PTS, somewhere in the top left of the screen will be a drop down menu to choose a template character with maxed out everything.

Dro'Zakar's Claw
what does this set fall under?

Trial? Overland? Cyro?

ChunkyCat

Jeez dude, check your inventory and start opening bags.

Royaji

LuxLunae wrote: »

ChunkyCat wrote: »

When you create a new character on the PTS, somewhere in the top left of the screen will be a drop down menu to choose a template character with maxed out everything.

Dro'Zakar's Claw
what does this set fall under?

Trial? Overland? Cyro?

Dungeon. You can see that in the patch notes where it is listed as a dungeon set for new dungeons.

Strider__Roshin

I'd rather use Seventh Legion honestly.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

already thought of, look here-

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/484373/pts-5-1-0-42k-bleed-build-dw-2h-up-to-72k-buffed/p1

sets not that good.

Seeing as I posted that build, think I should chime in and be more specific, the set isnt "amazing", but it is good. My build used pillars (and for example used caltrops because it was a very early build). You can squeeze a lot out of this set with axes and the 2 ability bleeds in the game, but its probably not better than AY, and still needs relequens to really do well on a build.

Thematically its cool as *** though, hence why I made the build.

Edit: I should also mention that Pillars does significantly more for this set than blooddrinker does, and Deadly Strikes does comparable but still lower DPS. This is not a buff for bleeds. This is a smaller buff for everything but the proc condition is tied to keeping good bleed uptime. Huge difference.

validifyedneb18_ESO

I should also say, having actually done the testing, that in a optimal dummy parse, this set provides ~590 wd.

This, put in perspective, is good, very good, but not anything amazing when compared to other sets in the game. It also only reaches this when in a fully optimized static rotation.

Using Pillars set with this gets you another near 200 (almost 100% uptime on pillars) wd, this when equated as part of pillars rather than the new set, does not suddenly make pillars the best set in the game, it does make it a better one - viable one - even.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Red_Feather wrote: »

Bleeds is changing! Will be unique. It stacks in intensity now and can be mitigated.

What's unique about it. Lighting dots stack, fire dors, poison etc.

Physical dots already exist.

There isnt a intensity change based on how many are on? What?

We will likely see a move to classify generic physical dots as bleeds, and bleeds become the baseline dot. Rend - the DW ultimate - is already now classified as a bleed to match this. Previously it wasnt, presumably because giving rend 100% penetration would have been completely overpowered.

rumple9

P2W

Jeremy

LuxLunae wrote: »

So I was looking at a third party site for a medium set when I bumped into this one...

Dro'Zakar's Claw
(2 items) Adds 1487 Physical Penetration
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) For every bleed effect you have on an enemy, increase your Weapon Damage by 200 against them.

Aparently this is going to be in scalebreaker...

If you keep up your average bleeds...on average you get 400 weapon damage guaranteed (in theory never tested yet)...if you use axes or some other means of bleed....800 weapon damage (maybe more)....

Look, I will go into PTS and test this out because right now I am only theorizing that it will be broken and top meta pvp next patch... I mean this with Blooddrinker or Deadly Strike... This is a DK's DREAM!!....

I can see it now... initial DK DOTs...get them to use cleanse/purge early... replace all dots.. then leap to stun them... letting them bleed out quick...then we get that 2 hander and EXECUTE!!!

This is medium armor no less...weapon damage should be out the roof...(not sure if it will be affected by brutality or not...im going on pts and see if i can try and use these sets)

remember the set is broken.. not bleeds...not bleeds...

At first glance it looks ridiculous. But when you take into account the changes to how bleeds function it may be ok. I've read they aren't going to ignore armor anymore.

ccfeeling

Absoutely garbage set

LuxLunae

ccfeeling wrote: »

Absoutely garbage set

The set is amazing... I love it...

LuxLunae

LuxLunae wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

Absoutely garbage set

The set is amazing... I love it...

updated it