small scale pvp and vigor

eso_lags

pieratsos wrote: »

eso_lags wrote: »

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

I´ll just leave this here for People wondering if vigor got a hard buff or not.
Disclaimer: I got this from a discord so I cant say if its pre battle spirit or not (most likely pre battle spirit) and which sets were used.

lol great

Ok i change my mind. It already needs a nerf

Thats why I said great lol. This is gonna be some *** now. Again, the point of this thread wasnt about if it was buffed or not. I mean an 89% buff sounds like it would be stronger.. The point was what I said before.

Anyway, 52k is crazy. im getting 25k with like 3k weapon damage. Usually run 5k so idk. Normally Id see like 20k vigor outside of pvp with roughly 5k w/d.

Sanguinor2

eso_lags wrote: »

Thats why I said great lol. This is gonna be some *** now. Again, the point of this thread wasnt about if it was buffed or not. I mean an 89% buff sounds like it would be stronger.. The point was what I said before.

Anyway, 52k is crazy. im getting 25k with like 3k weapon damage. Usually run 5k so idk. Normally Id see like 20k vigor outside of pvp with roughly 5k w/d.

Again I cant say under which circumstances that screenshot happened, it is certainly possible that it is from a stamdk with Major mending up and Maybe other buffs too, not sure if Burning heart Shows in the Tooltip but I´d assume it doesnt.

Lokey0024

You do know echoing vigor still does about the same healing as resolving did before, down like 15%, but you get 2 ticks in 1. Now you're just being nit picky because of min/max-ing.

eso_lags

Lokey0024 wrote: »

You do know echoing vigor still does about the same healing as resolving did before, down like 15%, but you get 2 ticks in 1. Now you're just being nit picky because of min/max-ing.

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Toc de Malsvi

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

I´ll just leave this here for People wondering if vigor got a hard buff or not.
Disclaimer: I got this from a discord so I cant say if its pre battle spirit or not (most likely pre battle spirit) and which sets were used.

Yeah I'm at 17-18k in an all divines all weapon damage PVE setup... So I don't know who cheesed that crap but that's not remotely realistic.

ArgoCye

Vigor was far too strong as a group heal. These changes are good and it really makes players think hard about which morph to choose. Either one will still prove to be strong, just no longer broken.

Aedaryl

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

I´ll just leave this here for People wondering if vigor got a hard buff or not.
Disclaimer: I got this from a discord so I cant say if its pre battle spirit or not (most likely pre battle spirit) and which sets were used.

Yeah I'm at 17-18k in an all divines all weapon damage PVE setup... So I don't know who cheesed that crap but that's not remotely realistic.

Major vitality + Major mending + 12% unnamed + heavy armor probably.

You can cheese that with argonian, 100 CP in all healing stars, minor mending ect

Gnozo

Aedaryl wrote: »

Toc de Malsvi wrote: »

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

I´ll just leave this here for People wondering if vigor got a hard buff or not.
Disclaimer: I got this from a discord so I cant say if its pre battle spirit or not (most likely pre battle spirit) and which sets were used.

Yeah I'm at 17-18k in an all divines all weapon damage PVE setup... So I don't know who cheesed that crap but that's not remotely realistic.

Major vitality + Major mending + 12% unnamed + heavy armor probably.

You can cheese that with argonian, 100 CP in all healing stars, minor mending ect

You cant see vitality on tooltips.

Durham

ArgoCye wrote: »

Vigor was far too strong as a group heal. These changes are good and it really makes players think hard about which morph to choose. Either one will still prove to be strong, just no longer broken.

Never broken lol ... strong yes but not broken. You could easily burst through vigor. If your at 10% health and you vigor your dead without another burst heal.

problematic_fave

I'm getting 40k+ vigor tooltips on stamdk pvp setup depending on weapon and armor procs/cont attack

Insco851

problematic_fave wrote: »

I'm getting 40k+ vigor tooltips on stamdk pvp setup depending on weapon and armor procs/cont attack

^^^^ “it’ll be fine” they said.

eso_lags

Durham wrote: »

ArgoCye wrote: »

Vigor was far too strong as a group heal. These changes are good and it really makes players think hard about which morph to choose. Either one will still prove to be strong, just no longer broken.

Never broken lol ... strong yes but not broken. You could easily burst through vigor. If your at 10% health and you vigor your dead without another burst heal.

Might be broken in scalebreaker though. And people like that seem to come around every time zos changes something. When they propose a change its "oh the skill is over performing". Now because they've proposed a change THIS is the right way. Strange how no one ever complained before.

Yes it was strong. Maybe if you got 20 people to stack vigors it would be broken, idk I dont play with more than a few people when I play with others. But Ive never seen people doing that, with just vigor, and i pvp every day. Sure they vigor each other, but they always have healers if you want to talk about over healing. Either way, ya not broken just strong and pretty much the only thing stam players have.