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Are there any crafted Sets worth the effort?
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✭- Twice-Born Star, Night Mother Gaze and Seducer for leveling. Also, Night Mother's Gaze is a commonly used set for vMA on some classes.
- Julianos and Hunding for getting started, before you get your trial sets.
- Shacklebreaker and Fortified Brass for endgame PvP purposes.
- Mechanical Acuity for very specific builds.
- Torug's pact for the absolute PvE endgame and that is trial leaderboards.Edited by Olupajmibanan on June 13, 2019 9:31AM -
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✭Some crafted sets have interesting unique effects, but they're better used in PvP, in my opinion. I tried to slot mechanical acuity in pvp, and it's a lot of fun to activate the mode "Overdrive".PC - EU - France - AD
Main character: Qojikrin (Previously Jah'Kar) : Khajiit Stamina Sorcerer - since March 25, 2015.
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Ufretin✭✭✭✭✭snarkomatic wrote: »They aren't meant to "hold their own" per se, but there are some nice ones you can craft, yes. They're mainly meant to be a gap-closer between random questing gear while leveling and the trial gear you're aiming for as BiS.
Seriously, am I the only one to remember that, back in 2014, devs actually meant crafted gear to be BiS?
The main incentive to do the Fighter's Guild / Mages Guild quest lines was to get access to those "op" 8-trait set crafting stations
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✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »How do you guys not know???!? Caldwell's favorite is the most op set in the game. I started running that at patch drop.
I can hear the group calls that were filled with excitement.
Dude, I got Honor. Did you get Honor? Quick everyone get Honor. Best set in the game period... Change my mind
Lol
cant tell if serious but i hate seeing set used in a dungeon. really shows the healer is terrible.
I make constant innuendos and you aren't sure if I'm serious. lol If you don't like the set someone else will get honor.-Immortal Redeemer-
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david_m_18b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭They are not bis but they totaly worth ir till you get bether ones. Julianos for magicka, hunging rage for stam, brass for tank and the new healing set from elswer seems borderline OP.
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✭✭✭✭Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »How do you guys not know???!? Caldwell's favorite is the most op set in the game. I started running that at patch drop.
I can hear the group calls that were filled with excitement.
Dude, I got Honor. Did you get Honor? Quick everyone get Honor. Best set in the game period... Change my mind
Lol
cant tell if serious but i hate seeing set used in a dungeon. really shows the healer is terrible.
I make constant innuendos and you aren't sure if I'm serious. lol If you don't like the set someone else will get honor.
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Marginis✭✭✭✭✭As always, it depends on your build. Some sets are even BiS for certain builds. But it all depends. Of note, in my experience, Twice-Born Star and Orgnum's Scales are great for niche builds that utilize them, even if usually those niche builds aren't considered themselves top tier.
Typically however, it is like most are saying here, which is they should be used while you farm for the gear you actually want. As a grandmaster crafter I cannot count how many times I've made Julianos+Seducer for magicka builds just looking to get something quick while they farm for their actual build's gear.@Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others. -
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✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »Crafted sets are for leveling and are still useful for non 'end game' PVE content - vet trials, skin runs, etc. People expect you to pull your weight and that will usually include having BiS (dropped sets) gear, whether you personally like it or not.
I have 15 max level characters on my main and most wear at least 1 set of crafted gear. Only those that I might use for vet trials have 'BiS' gear as the rest don't really need it.
This is what’s wrong with ESO PVE in a nutshell.
You’re using “people” as a catch all for yourself and other “people” who either are trying to be the best 0.01% of players or just players who aren’t as good as they think they are who then turn their own failings into perceived group-think where if “I cannot do something than no one can.”
If you are talented enough any content in this game can be completed with crafted gear.
So yeah, if you’re trying to set a world record, sure there are probably BIS options that are slightly better for certain roles than Julianos or Hundings or whatever. 99.99999% of people do not have those aspirations. And the “people” who “expect you to pull your own weight” have unreasonable expectations when you can pull your own weight in crafted gear to completing the dungeon or trial. -
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✭My new lvl 40 necro is running 7 piece Julianos (1 heavy, 1 medium, 5 light) along with 4 Magnus (3 jewelry and 1 staff). All are crafted and seem to work just fine.
Could you imagine if you could run doubles of a set...receive 5 piece bonus twice and Nobody realized it this whole time.....lol
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✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »My new lvl 40 necro is running 7 piece Julianos (1 heavy, 1 medium, 5 light) along with 4 Magnus (3 jewelry and 1 staff). All are crafted and seem to work just fine.
Could you imagine if you could run doubles of a set...receive 5 piece bonus twice and Nobody realized it this whole time.....lol
N yaaa...not gunna lie...I’ll try it when I get home....lol
Haha don’t bother. I’ve definitely tried it.
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Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭Nobody:
Do you still wear crafted sets?
Me: Til this day!!
.Edited by Kalik_Gold on July 7, 2019 6:32PMRas Kalik | Redguard - Templar | The Vestige, Ahkahtuz | Champion 1000+ | PS4/NA | ESO+ Cancelled | DC PVPPvP Combatants:
Aurik Siet'ka | Redguard - Necromancer
Cee Fôr | Redguard, Vampire - Nightblade
Cacique the Sage of Ius | Redguard - Warden
Jux Blackheart | Redguard, Lycan - Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell | Redguard - Dragonknight
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin | Reachman, Nord - Warden <No CP>
Movárth Piquine | Nord, Vampire - Necromancer <Tank/Support>
Kaotik Von Dae'mon | Breton half-Redguard* - Sorcerer <Healer/Support>
PvE Adventurers:
Herzog Zwei the Genesis | Breton - Templar <Healer>
Cinan Tharn | Imperial, Vampire - Dragonknight <Tank>
Tyrus Septim | Imperial - Sorcerer <Lightning/Shock Damage>
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar | Imperial - Dragonknight <Fire Damage>
mmoRPG personal lore:Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard Paladin and the wielder of Chrysamere; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. (not only Sai Sahan has a secret snowflake!) Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from undead, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being from Hammerfell, and a Redguard wields two massive swords in respect to the Ansei. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight.
Jux Blackheart a master thief that was frequenting the Sisters of the Sands inn for pilfering during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of this and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight and his greed. He lost two fingertips as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught...
Kaotik Von’Daemon is an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, a Breton monk and two Imperial soldiers. One of the Imperials claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired battle-mage soldier and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn is also a master of disguise, and uses his disguises while he robs various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Tharn also runs an illegal gambling ring...
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a Breton and also a prominent monk of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Ancestor Moth cult worshippers wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure. Ras Kalik did indeed notice the sword however, and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Breton men have parted ways for now... While Ras Kalik is off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little does Kalik know a few people are awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The one known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons, is awaiting his arrival also.
The journey to Senchal will also put him on a path to meet a strange man which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is only known as "the member C-4", as he gave up his born name when joining the cult. Cee Fôr is on a path to spread the disease as he was infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Cee For know, the infection is tied to Vampirism, but eventually the need for blood, will take over.
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected) within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in the Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar - grandfather of Silus Vesuius.
Uri Ice-Heart - twin of Urfon Ice-Heart. Twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart that are originally from Markarth but are now residing on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, their younger sister Araki has also relocated but she is in Windhelm currently. The twins joined the Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed east to Hammerfell with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri sent his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety to avoid the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. (but he doesn't know his sister has moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild). After hearing of Urfon's death... Uri left the Reach and is seeking vengeance. -
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Yes, lots of sets are situational, VO require you to kill stuff to get resources back, very nice in vMA, overland and easy dungeons. Relequen on the other hand works best burning an hard boss over time without interrupts.Sets like Hundings and Julianos are good. Comparing them to trial sets is an empty comparison since trial sets are intended to be run with another set. Further, trial sets are not as good when outside of a trial or dungeon as you lose one set bonus by design unless Zos changed that.
Further, unless you are trying to be one of the top dps on the server, running with competitive raid guilds, the small difference is inconsequential.
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✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »My new lvl 40 necro is running 7 piece Julianos (1 heavy, 1 medium, 5 light) along with 4 Magnus (3 jewelry and 1 staff). All are crafted and seem to work just fine.
Could you imagine if you could run doubles of a set...receive 5 piece bonus twice and Nobody realized it this whole time.....lol
N yaaa...not gunna lie...I’ll try it when I get home....lol
I mean, staff is two pieces for the bonus so...he does have two 5 piece bonuses, just saying...Edited by zvavi on June 13, 2019 4:25PM -
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Yes, lots of sets are situational, VO require you to kill stuff to get resources back, very nice in vMA, overland and easy dungeons. Relequen on the other hand works best burning an hard boss over time without interrupts.Sets like Hundings and Julianos are good. Comparing them to trial sets is an empty comparison since trial sets are intended to be run with another set. Further, trial sets are not as good when outside of a trial or dungeon as you lose one set bonus by design unless Zos changed that.
Further, unless you are trying to be one of the top dps on the server, running with competitive raid guilds, the small difference is inconsequential.
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Delsanab14_ESO✭✭✭✭- Law of Julianos for Mage DPS
- Seducer for Healing and Regen needs
- Magnus for secondary Mage DPS set placeholder
- Hundings Rage for Stamina DPS
- Nightmother's Gaze for Stamina DPS set, sometimes placeholder sometimes good enough
- Fortified Brass for Tank resistance set
- Torugs Pact for enchant optimization tank utility set, sometimes placeholder sometimes good enough
- Senche-Raht's Grit a new utility set for Tanks sometimes as a placeholder
- Night's Silence as a placeholder for Stamina DPS usually on the helm and shoulder as you wait for monster.
Beyond those Orgnum Scales, Armor Master, and Mechanical Acuity have all had their times at time.Account: @Delsana
FREE CRAFTING (NA PC) SIDENOTE: Hel'phaer is a Grand Master Crafter with almost every motif (excluding Buoyant, Meridian, Coldsnap, Grim Harlequin, Tsaesci, Pellitine, and Elder Argonian because can't afford it) and will craft attractive quality and visually appealing training gear or combat sets for those interested. FREE gear for players below CP 160 (equivalent level of 210), and paid gear in some form from those CP 160 or higher. -
Delsanab14_ESO✭✭✭✭Kagrenac's Hope as a healing set also as a placeholder or sometimes good enough.Account: @Delsana
FREE CRAFTING (NA PC) SIDENOTE: Hel'phaer is a Grand Master Crafter with almost every motif (excluding Buoyant, Meridian, Coldsnap, Grim Harlequin, Tsaesci, Pellitine, and Elder Argonian because can't afford it) and will craft attractive quality and visually appealing training gear or combat sets for those interested. FREE gear for players below CP 160 (equivalent level of 210), and paid gear in some form from those CP 160 or higher. -
Fortify Brass is probably the most broken of all crafted sets. Doesn’t make any sense that a light or even medium armor set, have that much resistance.
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✭thelawnranger79 wrote: »Fortify Brass is probably the most broken of all crafted sets. Doesn’t make any sense that a light or even medium armor set, have that much resistance.
Shh. Magicka players are people too.
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✭✭thelawnranger79 wrote: »Fortify Brass is probably the most broken of all crafted sets. Doesn’t make any sense that a light or even medium armor set, have that much resistance.
Well... Also doesn't make any sense a Magicka character would run around in a heavy Julianos gear, no heavy armor should have that amount of raw power, but that's the brilliance of crafting specially for PvP... It allows for some creativity on builds. If it'll be effective, that's entirely another conversation...
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✭There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. Just to clear it up, Hundings is still very much used in end-game for gaining static dmg in a mobile fight. Julianos...not so much. You could more effectively swap in BSW, but it's all situational. You might have someone who prefers Julianos and gets a little lower dmg, but is great with mechanics and spends more time on target (gets higher dmg overall than ->) than the guy running BiS with very little time on target. It makes it more difficult to determine which is going to be more effective because the bulk of the dmg comes from the person playing and their ability to keep up an effective rotation. Sets add far less than you realize.PC/Xbox NA
Healer Main, but roleplays as a DPS when needed
