Is Necromancer Class Over Performing in PVP?

danthemann5

No

Skander wrote: »

If you take out goliath, it's useless most of the time

That sums it up nicely. Bash aside, they're tanky with anemic damage and a sub-par toolkit. The mechanics are clunky at best.

dodgehopper_ESO

No

LordTareq wrote: »

Stamcro is a little at the moment.

I disagree. When you factor in the wave of people building and playing the new class its easy to get the perception that they are deadly. It really is hard to compare though without doing a lot of 1v1 with competent players. It seems to me that 30% of everyone in Cyrodiil is a Necro right now though. I'm seeing excellent people of all classes though so I'm inclined to think it is all hype. Its not as though I can't kill a Necro and often times I'm finding them easier to deal with than a lot of other classes.

Ozazz

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

all these biased ass stam players my god

Ozazz

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

tell me how a stamina necromancer is better than a magicka necro for pvp. Only one answer and thats becasue zos wants to favor stam once again! its really getting old

Cathexis

Other

I've died once or twice to bash spam that caught me off guard but overall they are about on par with anything.

Lord_Eomer

Yes (Stamina and Magicka Necromancer)

Cathexis wrote: »

I've died once or twice to bash spam that caught me off guard but overall they are about on par with anything.

No way bash is par with other ultimate, either you are playing hardly or ignoring the fact!

Deathlord92

The class is ok but the Goliath bash needs looking at that ultimate could probably farm a good emperor like a noob player it’s god mode I don’t even know how it made it to live server lmao 😂

Lord_Eomer

Yes (Stamina and Magicka Necromancer)

Deathlord92 wrote: »

The class is ok but the Goliath bash needs looking at that ultimate could probably farm a good emperor like a noob player it’s god mode I don’t even know how it made it to live server lmao 😂

Yea, class seems fine and competitive with others except Goliath Bash which need some tweaking

Delparis

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

Cinbri

No

In pvp outside of bash goliath thiss class is completely useless.

Lord_Eomer

Yes (Stamina and Magicka Necromancer)

Cinbri wrote: »

In pvp outside of bash goliath thiss class is completely useless.

lol, it’s not useless without Bash Goliath

Mojomonkeyman

No

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

In pvp outside of bash goliath thiss class is completely useless.

lol, it’s not useless without Bash Goliath

Every possible role is done better by another class, except ultimate drops - and even here Id say allmighty Permafrost is still King (especially considering how much a Warden brings to the table in addition to Permafrost).

So, what makes Necro useful?

leepalmer95

No

Honestly apart from the 3 OP ults it has it kinda sucks.

Half the skills have horrible issues with pathing or actually going off. It may be amazing when blastbones doesn't suck.


Collossus is way too strong for a single ult, AOE, Massive dmg and increasing dmg taken by 30%, it's not even dmg done it's dmg taken lmao.

Bash Ult just needs to stop scaling off s&b passives.

JumpmanLane

I unno. Them thangs die like anybody else...

IronWooshu

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

I think ultimates need a slight down tuning and skills need a slight up tuning.

BigBragg

Other

Pummeling Goliath is over powered in choke point. Outside of them is is just a CC and kite game. It does need to be tweaked, but not made worthless either.

I think stam is in a decent place. Magicka seems to only be doing well in a support roll, but even there it is far from over performing.

kpittsniperb14_ESO

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

This just in.....57% of people that voted this poll are playing stamina necromancers in pvp

DemonDruaga

No

Non cp

Apart from the bash cheese I wouldn't call it too over powered.

Everything goes around blastbones, right now a lot of players are just confused in how it works and what they can do.
Had some that tought it was a targetable single target ability and tryed to dodge it for example.
As soon as more people realize that they can stun it, rendering it useless (necro can't recast as long as it is not dead) or at least block, it will give a more clear picture.

+ as soon as there are multiple targets it gets super unreliable. Sometimes it hangs just around, unable to decide who it wants to attack, or it runs up to a player super far away and not even beeing focused by the necro

+ not talking about prime time lag ^^

Amdar_Godkiller

No

I'm still learning the class, but its definitely not OP atm. I have led my team in both most kills and fewest deaths in BGs in all 5 matches I've tried (won 2, last place in 3), and this is partly because of the ulti, but more to do with having access to and high uptime with Major Protection. but in Cryodil it is much more difficult I've found. It's weird because I go through stretches where I'm getting wiped by every solo magplar and stamsorc, but then I'll have moments where I'm 1v6ing a group of stamdens and DKS successfully.

So i short:

The ultis are strong, but telegraphed with AOE circles. People are whining because the class is new and not used to the attacks, but this will change as people learn the class. The only ulti that is too OP is the res. It's going to make tanky necros the hottest PVP commodity. And being a tanky necro is going to be super easy because you have: major protection, minor protection, major resolve and ward, additional mitigation from your summoned healer and the 3 percent reduction, heals that scale to max health, lots of max health. The PVP tanking toolkit is even better than the wardens.

I've been theorycrafting a light armor nord build with > 75% mitigation 100% of the time, 3K crit resist, and massive damage shields buffed by having 70K health, and all this from using only 7 of 14 pieces towards mitigation.

They make terrible glass cannons. But they have the potential to make zergs far more toxic than they already are.


Major protection itself likely needs a nerf. It should have been this over major defile that got the nerf hammer in PVP. 30% is too much and even before necro, it was the biggest issue in PVP balance through pirate skeleton. Consider that a necromancer's main heal already causes them to be afflicted with minor defile, so there's 0 downside to them running pirate skeleton, and they can consume a corpse like every 5 seconds so, even when skeleton is down, they have a high major protection uptime.

WuffyCerulei

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

Or the bashing stam necros, as it’s major cheese.

Pr0Skygon

No

I have not yet brought my necro into pvp, but on my stamDK and magSorc, i have no problem dealing with any kind of necro PvPers. I can go as far as saying that magcro is pretty weak compare to others.

Iskiab

No

No, just the bashing ultimate needs to be nerfed into oblivion.

J41K

Yes (Stamina Necromancer)

Has everyone here just forgotten to mention Goliath Bash and how broken that push to win button is atm ...

ulti, 70k health so you cant die
a AoE bash that can hit for 5k a hit easy and spammed as quick as you can bash.

i have seen a solo player take out 10 people plus just with this. it simply needs adjusting.