ESO on Google Stadia

LeinadOrarogep

In the final showcase reel for today's Google Stadia presentation, there was also Elder Scrolls Online.

1. Is ESO coming to Stadia?
2. Will we be able to transfer our Steam accounts and characters there?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_JessicaFolsom thanks for information!

sekekama21554

If that’s the case, Let’s hope they have better servers then what were currently getting. It’s really sad what state the server performance is in right now

LeinadOrarogep

It's actually confirmed by Google here: https://store.google.com/us/product/stadia_founders_edition?hl=en-US

JamilaRaj

So, how is that going to work? Google will spy on players while playing and paying and will then advise, in exchange for cut from profits, videogambling companies how to milk players more effectively?

Joker99

sekekama21554 wrote: »

If that’s the case, Let’s hope they have better servers then what were currently getting. It’s really sad what state the server performance is in right now

Further shows that people have no idea what Stadia is, you're not gonna get separate servers for it, you'll still play on one of the megaservers currently available and you won't get better performance, maybe better fps but significantly worse ping and tremendous input lag.

NocturnalSonata

unless there is some sort of lag compensation magic occurring, Stadia players would find Ping and input lag unbearable on normal eso servers.

AhPook_Is_Here

Nice! I'm going all in on Stadia, getting a nice 85' QLED 8k and a weeks supply of controllers, no more building gaming computers every year!

zaria

sekekama21554 wrote: »

If that’s the case, Let’s hope they have better servers then what were currently getting. It’s really sad what state the server performance is in right now

Stadia servers are not ESO servers, they just replace your PC. Stadia will then communicate with ESO servers the same way an pc or console will before render is streamed back to you. In short lag will increase and the stadia lag is worse than the ESO lag as it will affect every action even stuff like menus.
if you have an horrible pc like an old craptop stadia probably work out better.
If you have an crap internet connection it will be far worse.

Johannesgeo

Google Stadia sounds good on paper, but I'm very skeptical if it's going to work.
And since the servers are already struggling... it'll be even worse
Just my two cents though ;D

Onefrkncrzypope

The demos for stadia had people talking about latency so idk if it will preform better. I mean I guess it depends on how fast the calculation stadia server side is because it will beam you an image then respond to your input then send to zos then repeat. It sounds pretty shaky unless Stadia has direct connection and not through a ddos and if the ZoS doesn't need anti cheat stuff on Stadia. But if no change the Stadia would have to be super fast to out perform y'alls crazy desktops.

Cireous

So, will people be able to play Elder Scrolls online on their phone (Google Pixel at first and other phones later)? This interests me a lot. But what about the controls? How would that even work with games not designed for mobile?

Marginis

JamilaRaj wrote: »

So, how is that going to work? Google will spy on players while playing and paying and will then advise, in exchange for cut from profits, videogambling companies how to milk players more effectively?

ZOS doesn't need Google to collect player data. The ESO community has already found several places where data collection was occurring, and Google was not needed. To be fair though, in regard to that, ZOS did alleviate most of those concerns by responding directly in those threads. Furthermore however, the monetization player investment practices I and much of the community finds distasteful seem very unlikely to be related in any way to this... glorified Ouya? It may just be my opinion, but it seems unlikely that such a small test market would factor into many decisions regarding the game as a whole considering the small portion of the playerbase even likely to use the new service.

Peekachu99

Cireous wrote: »

So, will people be able to play Elder Scrolls online on their phone (Google Pixel at first and other phones later)? This interests me a lot. But what about the controls? How would that even work with games not designed for mobile?

It has a Bluetooth controller that you buy. I assume that would work on Pixels, Google tablets unless the company are truly dense.

Destiny 2 is getting cross-platforms saves for Stadia, too, so...

ManwithBeard9

Move to Australia and play ESO on a console there, and that's how the Google Stevia would play.

JamilaRaj

Marginis wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

So, how is that going to work? Google will spy on players while playing and paying and will then advise, in exchange for cut from profits, videogambling companies how to milk players more effectively?

ZOS doesn't need Google to collect player data. The ESO community has already found several places where data collection was occurring, and Google was not needed. To be fair though, in regard to that, ZOS did alleviate most of those concerns by responding directly in those threads. Furthermore however, the monetization player investment practices I and much of the community finds distasteful seem very unlikely to be related in any way to this... glorified Ouya? It may just be my opinion, but it seems unlikely that such a small test market would factor into many decisions regarding the game as a whole considering the small portion of the playerbase even likely to use the new service.

Everyone wants access to Google's data on players. ZOS can track players at best across relatively narrow space of Zeni Media's games and associated services such as forums (coincidentally though, ZOS is not above embedding Google's tracking elements into this website), Google can track them virtually everywhere else, with a few notable exceptions, which are on one hand Google's competitors (you will not find Google's crap on Facebook, Microsoft, not even on Amazon) and on the other hand websites like Wikipedia or that of European Union (but not necessarily local governments; these appear to be considerably more stupid).
In other words, ZOS has less data on fewer players than Google, and it is not even directly spying in games yet (...I think).

MisterBigglesworth

Too bad this isn't online yet. I'm going on vacation next week and could've played ESO on my $100 laptop.

zaria

Cireous wrote: »

So, will people be able to play Elder Scrolls online on their phone (Google Pixel at first and other phones later)? This interests me a lot. But what about the controls? How would that even work with games not designed for mobile?

yes, your problem is the controls however. But if you can run on an pad with keyboard and mouse or pack an slim controller its interesting if traveling a lot. You need an good internet connection however.

Wildberryjack

As I said in the other thread on this subject, lag is my concern, delays between the keystroke and actions in the game seem inevitable. It would be nice if it worked and I'll def try it out but I'm a bit skeptical honestly.

ghastley

It needs a LOT more bandwitch on the internet connection, and there's no guarantee it won't increase lag. It's only beneficial if you run ESO on a really old machine with a very modern NIC and fibre to the home.

Merlight

Wildberryjack wrote: »

As I said in the other thread on this subject, lag is my concern, delays between the keystroke and actions in the game seem inevitable.

I don't think you'll notice in prime-time Cyrodiil.

Marginis

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

So, how is that going to work? Google will spy on players while playing and paying and will then advise, in exchange for cut from profits, videogambling companies how to milk players more effectively?

ZOS doesn't need Google to collect player data. The ESO community has already found several places where data collection was occurring, and Google was not needed. To be fair though, in regard to that, ZOS did alleviate most of those concerns by responding directly in those threads. Furthermore however, the monetization player investment practices I and much of the community finds distasteful seem very unlikely to be related in any way to this... glorified Ouya? It may just be my opinion, but it seems unlikely that such a small test market would factor into many decisions regarding the game as a whole considering the small portion of the playerbase even likely to use the new service.

Everyone wants access to Google's data on players. ZOS can track players at best across relatively narrow space of Zeni Media's games and associated services such as forums (coincidentally though, ZOS is not above embedding Google's tracking elements into this website), Google can track them virtually everywhere else, with a few notable exceptions, which are on one hand Google's competitors (you will not find Google's crap on Facebook, Microsoft, not even on Amazon) and on the other hand websites like Wikipedia or that of European Union (but not necessarily local governments; these appear to be considerably more stupid).
In other words, ZOS has less data on fewer players than Google, and it is not even directly spying in games yet (...I think).

A fair point, although there was discussion about software being installed on ESO users' home systems at some point, which I would say rivals if not outright beats Google's analytics. Long threads about it. I'm going to avoid getting this getting any more off-topic from the thread at hand though, so I'm just going to recommend looking up some old discussions on ZOS using Red Shell on the ESO forums and leave it at that.

Linaleah

unless they miraculously fixed all the issues that playstation now had and still has? its not going to improve performance on an online game even a little bit. going to be nice to try out some offline games I don't feel like buying though. maybe. we shall see.

pattyLtd

How can an extra layer improve performance?

I like google the search engine but all the rest is getting out of hand, it’s getting way too powerfull just like im way off topic

Emma_Overload

So what is the underlying platform going to be? XB, PS or PC? Or all of them???

Also, will you be able to play with mouse and keyboard?

idk

sekekama21554 wrote: »

If that’s the case, Let’s hope they have better servers then what were currently getting. It’s really sad what state the server performance is in right now

Surprised but the game itself is likely not moving unless Zos is getting a better deal there than the current sites which I think are Texas and Germany. Further, Zos maintains 3 servers at both locations since we play on 3 different platform.

This also does not mean the "server lag" we experience will be changed because that is a design issue in the game most of the time, not a server issue. It would only reduce certain lag via internet ping if it is a remote desktop type of design. Lag may occur in a different manner as well since the graphic would be streamed to our homes vs already loaded on our devices as they are now.

Further, I doubt Steam customers will be able to move their game without buying the game again as some have done. Steam probably has their claws in that contract as strong as legally possible.

I could be totally wrong about the remote desktop part though if that is the case then I am not sure what the benefit to existing players will be, if any.

Cireous

zaria wrote: »

Cireous wrote: »

So, will people be able to play Elder Scrolls online on their phone (Google Pixel at first and other phones later)? This interests me a lot. But what about the controls? How would that even work with games not designed for mobile?

yes, your problem is the controls however. But if you can run on an pad with keyboard and mouse or pack an slim controller its interesting if traveling a lot. You need an good internet connection however.

Hmm, I definitely would not be interested in connecting a controller or keyboard and mouse to my phone. To enjoy the experience on my phone, I would need functioning hassle-free touch screen controls.

Can you make this happen Zenimax?

idk

Emma_Overload wrote: »

So what is the underlying platform going to be? XB, PS or PC? Or all of them???

Also, will you be able to play with mouse and keyboard?

Stadia will play on tables, phones, PCs and Mac.

One important question is addons. Currently our PC games live on our PC drives and so do the addons. My thought, and just a guess, is that Stadia will play more like a console and we will not have addons available.

I really doubt this is the panacea some think it is.

Edit: as I read further, we will have to hear from Zos on the issue as it does not seem that consoles accounts will be moved there, this is a competitor of consoles and I doubt most PC players will want to play via Stadia for the aforementioned loss of addons.

At this point you have to preorder for $130 USD and until Zos makes a statement about current accounts this is just a fantasy.

zaria

Linaleah wrote: »

unless they miraculously fixed all the issues that playstation now had and still has? its not going to improve performance on an online game even a little bit. going to be nice to try out some offline games I don't feel like buying though. maybe. we shall see.

For consoles and ESO, PS5 and xbox two(?) will be awesome, even better once ESO is optimized for them.

Linaleah

zaria wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

unless they miraculously fixed all the issues that playstation now had and still has? its not going to improve performance on an online game even a little bit. going to be nice to try out some offline games I don't feel like buying though. maybe. we shall see.

For consoles and ESO, PS5 and xbox two(?) will be awesome, even better once ESO is optimized for them.

again, i don't know. I've had ps now subscription, before we took the plunge and bought ps4. it had... issues. with imput lag. with visual glitches. occasionally it would just right out disconnect, and its NOT due to my internet connection. the main difference so far seems like which devices you can use stadia on (ps now can be limited) and its for pc rather then playstation games.

jainiadral

Cireous wrote: »

So, will people be able to play Elder Scrolls online on their phone (Google Pixel at first and other phones later)? This interests me a lot. But what about the controls? How would that even work with games not designed for mobile?

This would be great as a quick log in for chores like writs or horse training.

Loves_guars

Slightly unrelated but

GO FOR THE EYES BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Errr, I'm still not using the Stadia thing thanks. :P But I guess it's cool for people without PC?