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Cyrodiil: Why Faction lock is only a Band-Aid fix for a bigger problem

  • bulbousb16_ESO
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    For off peak accept 6pm to 2pm AEST.How many people do you need to tell you Shor and Sotha are dead in off peak before you accept it? 50? 100? 1000? I'll guess for you it would always be "1 more".
    Shor and Sotha don't exist anymore in PC NA, so I have no disagreement that they are "dead". The new campaigns are not "dead". As far as how many people have said this, I have heard some people define "dead" as "less than population capped". And now I have you claiming that the population bars are at zero. It's almost worth staying up late to take a screenshot proving otherwise.

    Lethal zergling
  • Mr_Walker
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    For off peak accept 6pm to 2pm AEST.How many people do you need to tell you Shor and Sotha are dead in off peak before you accept it? 50? 100? 1000? I'll guess for you it would always be "1 more".
    Shor and Sotha don't exist anymore in PC NA, so I have no disagreement that they are "dead". The new campaigns are not "dead". As far as how many people have said this, I have heard some people define "dead" as "less than population capped". And now I have you claiming that the population bars are at zero. It's almost worth staying up late to take a screenshot proving otherwise.

    Xbox NA, champ. Feel free to hop on and and show me all those populations in off peak.

    And, for the immediate future, we can all agree that the nomenclature of Vivec, Shor and Sotha will be interchangeable with 30cp, 7cp and 30nocp campaigns respectively. The dragon names are a PITB.
  • bulbousb16_ESO
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Xbox NA, champ. Feel free to hop on and and show me all those populations in off peak.
    Ewww... console. Well, what if I take your word for it? Why not paste some screenshots in 3 hours? Or else in 16 hours?

    Lethal zergling
  • Mr_Walker
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Xbox NA, champ. Feel free to hop on and and show me all those populations in off peak.
    Ewww... console. Well, what if I take your word for it? Why not paste some screenshots in 3 hours? Or else in 16 hours?

    Feel free to take my word for it, in the absence of any reason I have to make what would be an easily disproven and stupid lie.

    Edited by Mr_Walker on May 29, 2019 2:55AM
  • ks888
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    Well put OP. I would go further as to say, heck I'll even take it costing me some AP or gold or taking away my ability to be eligible for emp or geodes. Just give me AN option, not take-backsies on something they gave us freedom to do for the past few years.
    DC NA - Norri (formerly Noriku) - Khole
    DC NA - Ginger Gaspode (sorc stuff)
    AD NA - Mahdis (sometimes sorc stuff)
    AD NA - Dee Tix (heals for hire)
    EP NA - Norr'i (heals for hire) - Flame/Vanguard/solo potato
    EP NA - Boot'Lizard (does warden things)
    AD NA - Here for the Tick (elf fail bomber)
    DC NA - Boot Lizard (just here to meatbag plebs)
    EP NA - Sorc in a Bottle (negates stuff)
    EP NA - Hashtag Blessed (throws flowers on things)
    AD NA- Windowless Van (reasons)

    ** I have too many toons **
    RIP every alt I deleted
  • Prospero_ESO
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    God forbid, choices matter now. How dare you ZOS...
  • illutian
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    I'd rather just have faction change tokens and then give out a 'Call to Arms' buff to the low-pop Factions...something like x100 XP/AP plus a special bounty quest that awards a crap-load of coin.

    Or...ya know...make it so Volendrung only drops for the lowest-pop faction; immediately disappearing if that faction gains more people (so you can have people sit out until Vol drops then mass join).

    It's completely stupid that pop-locked factions can get Vol and steamroll even more.
    You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
  • Diundriel
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    if you want to stop faction lock Maybe all stop eso+ that still got it and dont spend Money on expanisons :wink:
    GM of Slack Squad
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    Pugs Got Bombed- AD ManaNB AvA 29
    Cause we have dots- AD ManaSorc AvA 30
    Red Zergs Again- AD StamDen AvA 25
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  • Ackwalan
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    For off peak accept 6pm to 2pm AEST.How many people do you need to tell you Shor and Sotha are dead in off peak before you accept it? 50? 100? 1000? I'll guess for you it would always be "1 more".
    Shor and Sotha don't exist anymore in PC NA, so I have no disagreement that they are "dead". The new campaigns are not "dead". As far as how many people have said this, I have heard some people define "dead" as "less than population capped". And now I have you claiming that the population bars are at zero. It's almost worth staying up late to take a screenshot proving otherwise.

    Xbox NA, champ. Feel free to hop on and and show me all those populations in off peak.

    And, for the immediate future, we can all agree that the nomenclature of Vivec, Shor and Sotha will be interchangeable with 30cp, 7cp and 30nocp campaigns respectively. The dragon names are a PITB.

    You just explained the real reason why people don't want to switch from the locked 30 day to the unlocked 7 day. It's about how slow people are to accept change. The campaigns were changed from unlocked to locked and people are reluctant to change. Even a small thing like changing a name, shows how people are reluctant to change.

  • ks888
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    #deletefactionlocksalready
    DC NA - Norri (formerly Noriku) - Khole
    DC NA - Ginger Gaspode (sorc stuff)
    AD NA - Mahdis (sometimes sorc stuff)
    AD NA - Dee Tix (heals for hire)
    EP NA - Norr'i (heals for hire) - Flame/Vanguard/solo potato
    EP NA - Boot'Lizard (does warden things)
    AD NA - Here for the Tick (elf fail bomber)
    DC NA - Boot Lizard (just here to meatbag plebs)
    EP NA - Sorc in a Bottle (negates stuff)
    EP NA - Hashtag Blessed (throws flowers on things)
    AD NA- Windowless Van (reasons)

    ** I have too many toons **
    RIP every alt I deleted
  • BRogueNZ
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    easy fix .. BG's
    "Having lost so much for the country alliance I love, I'll be damned if I'll ever love any other" possibly misquoted civil war dude
  • ellahellabella
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    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    easy fix .. BG's

    Not easy fix, Oceanic playtime.

    Feel free to stay up till 5am and fix that for me tho.
    Try to read everything I write with an Australian accent

    PC NA
    ZOMBIE DEATH MACHINE
    Vanguard
    Outcasts
    Full faction locks are only further dividing an already dwindling pvp community

    Toons:
    Ebonheart Pact
    Sophis (M. Templar), Lilivah Rallenar (M. Sorcerer), Diakoptês (M. Dragonknight), Pins and Needles (M. Nightblade), Claws-your-Curtains (S. Sorcerer), Raan-Mir-Tah (M Warden), Hezik (S Warden)

    Aldmeri Dominion
    Sophis-ticated (M. Templar), Tis not easy being Green (S. Dragonknight)

    Daggerfall Covernant
    Sirius Delatora (M. Nightblade), Ellaberry (S. Templar), Ellabear (pve tank) Claìr De Lune (M. Sorc)
  • BRogueNZ
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    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    easy fix .. BG's

    Not easy fix, Oceanic playtime.

    Feel free to stay up till 5am and fix that for me tho.

    no shortage of oceanic players at all, same planet?
    "Having lost so much for the country alliance I love, I'll be damned if I'll ever love any other" possibly misquoted civil war dude
  • ellahellabella
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    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    easy fix .. BG's

    Not easy fix, Oceanic playtime.

    Feel free to stay up till 5am and fix that for me tho.

    no shortage of oceanic players at all, same planet?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/439549/oceanic-lag-now-300-400-ms-even-with-a-vpn-was-250-30
    Losing a lot of us with this.

    Bet you never touched that link before did ya?
    "Well it's got nothing to do with me and I'm right even when I don't have any knowledge on the subject!"


    Edited by ellahellabella on August 4, 2019 10:33PM
    Try to read everything I write with an Australian accent

    PC NA
    ZOMBIE DEATH MACHINE
    Vanguard
    Outcasts
    Full faction locks are only further dividing an already dwindling pvp community

    Toons:
    Ebonheart Pact
    Sophis (M. Templar), Lilivah Rallenar (M. Sorcerer), Diakoptês (M. Dragonknight), Pins and Needles (M. Nightblade), Claws-your-Curtains (S. Sorcerer), Raan-Mir-Tah (M Warden), Hezik (S Warden)

    Aldmeri Dominion
    Sophis-ticated (M. Templar), Tis not easy being Green (S. Dragonknight)

    Daggerfall Covernant
    Sirius Delatora (M. Nightblade), Ellaberry (S. Templar), Ellabear (pve tank) Claìr De Lune (M. Sorc)
  • BRogueNZ
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    Don't need to touch the link I live in the region and by forum accounts were ruing the game with 'night capping'

    next
    "Having lost so much for the country alliance I love, I'll be damned if I'll ever love any other" possibly misquoted civil war dude
  • ellahellabella
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    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Don't need to touch the link I live in the region and by forum accounts were ruing the game with 'night capping'

    next

    That thread was made by an Oceanic and it talks about how our connections to the server are taking ridiculous detours through Europe to reach the NA server...
    So I'll take back the 'got nothing to do with you'. NZ is enjoying the same detour through the long pathed wonderland.
    Edited by ellahellabella on August 5, 2019 5:17AM
    Try to read everything I write with an Australian accent

    PC NA
    ZOMBIE DEATH MACHINE
    Vanguard
    Outcasts
    Full faction locks are only further dividing an already dwindling pvp community

    Toons:
    Ebonheart Pact
    Sophis (M. Templar), Lilivah Rallenar (M. Sorcerer), Diakoptês (M. Dragonknight), Pins and Needles (M. Nightblade), Claws-your-Curtains (S. Sorcerer), Raan-Mir-Tah (M Warden), Hezik (S Warden)

    Aldmeri Dominion
    Sophis-ticated (M. Templar), Tis not easy being Green (S. Dragonknight)

    Daggerfall Covernant
    Sirius Delatora (M. Nightblade), Ellaberry (S. Templar), Ellabear (pve tank) Claìr De Lune (M. Sorc)
  • Crixus8000
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    how do people use the excuse they cannot play with friends when only one campaign is locked? its just an ignorant response and poor excuse for refusing to just guest somewhere else, unless ofcourse they want to stack the winning sides to get tier 2 rewards for geodes easier then swap to the next alliance when its easier and can no longer do that

    Poor excuse and ignorant ? You do realize no cp has no option to play an unlocked campaign right ? So yes for many people this is a very valid point, and certainly does prevent them from playing with friends.
  • ZOS_JesC
    ZOS_JesC
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