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How are Mag sorcs now in pvp
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Cortimi✭✭✭✭✭... now am also beginning to think DK's are in a really good spot, but that is another story.
Overall Msorc not in a bad spot right now imo..
Nothing against this guy, but I can't help but laugh when I read this. This is a magsorc, saying magsorcs are fine. Let that sink in.
Remember that internet rule, that states "every class is OP except mine, which needs buffed?"
How brokenly overpowered do magsorcs have to be for them to casually say "yep, this is fine"????????????
And yes, OF COURSE magsorcs think DKs are in a GREAT spot right now: directly in their line of fire, with no counterplay.Xbox NA: Soviet Messiah
EP: Cortimi - Imperial StamDK
EP: Melga - Orc StamDen (Dah Bear)
EP: Narileya - Nord StamPlar (Mad cuz Bad)
EP: Corvaera - Bosmer Orc StamSorc (RIP)
PS4 NA (Retired at CP835): Soviet-Messiah:
EP: Cortimi - Imperial StamDK
DC: Melga gra-Antilae - StamDen
AD: Corvaera - Bosmer StamSorcCP is a crutch for people who can’t sustain and want to be "tanky" so they aren’t immediately punished for making mistakes.8 -
Mitaka211✭✭✭✭... now am also beginning to think DK's are in a really good spot, but that is another story.
Overall Msorc not in a bad spot right now imo..
Nothing against this guy, but I can't help but laugh when I read this. This is a magsorc, saying magsorcs are fine. Let that sink in.
Remember that internet rule, that states "every class is OP except mine, which needs buffed?"
How brokenly overpowered do magsorcs have to be for them to casually say "yep, this is fine"????????????
And yes, OF COURSE magsorcs think DKs are in a GREAT spot right now: directly in their line of fire, with no counterplay.
Yea remember how they nerfed oblivion damage because sorcs complained there is an existing counter to their shield stacking ....nothing must kill them, they must one shot everything thats how it is
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cpuScientist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mained magSorc for so long, feel filthy using it now just dirty horrid mess. Stupidly easy, when I can beat a really good dueler on NA PC and they are on stamDK spamming wings last patch when they reflected and I have no pets spamming clench, and they cannot kill me and I win 3/5. I had to put the class down because it was such a damn carry. Purest Carry. Add the matriarch and it's hilarious constant strong dot and a big heal along with passives. And I can just hide in it. WHICH I NEVER DO IT'S FILTHY to do in a duel if you are already using the damn thing.
Then open world fighting 1vX against not just Little minions but players I know are really damn good 3vMe and I am not dying. The class is a fat carry and I just can't anymore.
Swapped to stamDK as that's what everyone says is a carry and I used it for a long time so I can play well on it. Nowhere close to magSorc nothing is. 30k health stack 2 shields on that stack 25k resist on that 44k mag and a big fat heal.... Stupid class.
They killed all the fun of the class with frags stunning and healing ward nerfs. Just a boring class now that carries way to damn hard.
I'm on StamSorc now, having fun, no more fat carry. I mean a class being strong or even the strongest is one thing but magSorc is just too much...6 -
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✭✭I only play my magsorc when I feel like putting the absolute minimum amount of effort and still doing well. Playing a BG match while watching YouTube and ending up with the highest score in the match feels gross but whatever.2 -
ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭cpuScientist wrote: »Mained magSorc for so long, feel filthy using it now just dirty horrid mess. Stupidly easy, when I can beat a really good dueler on NA PC and they are on stamDK spamming wings last patch when they reflected and I have no pets spamming clench, and they cannot kill me and I win 3/5. I had to put the class down because it was such a damn carry. Purest Carry. Add the matriarch and it's hilarious constant strong dot and a big heal along with passives. And I can just hide in it. WHICH I NEVER DO IT'S FILTHY to do in a duel if you are already using the damn thing.
Then open world fighting 1vX against not just Little minions but players I know are really damn good 3vMe and I am not dying. The class is a fat carry and I just can't anymore.
Swapped to stamDK as that's what everyone says is a carry and I used it for a long time so I can play well on it. Nowhere close to magSorc nothing is. 30k health stack 2 shields on that stack 25k resist on that 44k mag and a big fat heal.... Stupid class.
They killed all the fun of the class with frags stunning and healing ward nerfs. Just a boring class now that carries way to damn hard.
I'm on StamSorc now, having fun, no more fat carry. I mean a class being strong or even the strongest is one thing but magSorc is just too much...
I think a lot of people don't realize just how strong that matriarch dot is. Every fight with a petsorc is 20-25%+ damage coming from Zap. It might seem like a small dot, but it's constant outgoing pressure that happens without you even using a gcd while you heal or shield or do whatever else.Gryphon Heart
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stritzi✭✭✭Op as usual, ridiculous range burst potential combined with that auto heal matriarch. But it is how it is, every game needs a newbie friendly class1 -
PhoenixGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭Easiest class to wreck as per usual.
Still just a potato masher and always will be2 -
Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭... now am also beginning to think DK's are in a really good spot, but that is another story.
Overall Msorc not in a bad spot right now imo..
Nothing against this guy, but I can't help but laugh when I read this. This is a magsorc, saying magsorcs are fine. Let that sink in.
Remember that internet rule, that states "every class is OP except mine, which needs buffed?"
How brokenly overpowered do magsorcs have to be for them to casually say "yep, this is fine"????????????
And yes, OF COURSE magsorcs think DKs are in a GREAT spot right now: directly in their line of fire, with no counterplay.
Mag sorcs are fine. Dodge roll and stam toons when played right completely counter the class.....especially stam blades with cloak/dodge.
Bleed builds work through shields. Bleed builds counter the class.
The class really has been nerfed and changed enough.
People who are still complaining about it really need to learn how to counter it. It has more hard counters than any class in game.
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Ozazz✭✭✭✭Sorcs have been garbage ever since post clock work, with the removal of c frag. then we were compensated with a op rune cage that ripped the skill ceiling off our class, this didn't make our class better by any means, but people of course cried as if it did! then when you think it couldn't get any worse they target the class again and nerf pretty much everything then compensate us again with a cheesy ability such as pets. The point is without rune cage post clock work or pets in post elsywr the class would pretty much be nothing, and to say the class is bis or op because of one ability is disrespectful in regard to the class and especially not acknowledging the sacrifices and the nerfs the class has suffered over the years.1 -
Icy_Waffles✭✭✭✭✭
✭I’m having no problems wrecking mag sorcs on my mag dk. I have a friend that runs one and he does well enough but it’s pretty easy to counter and outplay the average mag sorc.1 -
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✭✭Sorcs have been garbage ever since post clock work, with the removal of c frag. then we were compensated with a op rune cage that ripped the skill ceiling off our class, this didn't make our class better by any means, but people of course cried as if it did! then when you think it couldn't get any worse they target the class again and nerf pretty much everything then compensate us again with a cheesy ability such as pets. The point is without rune cage post clock work or pets in post elsywr the class would pretty much be nothing, and to say the class is bis or op because of one ability is disrespectful in regard to the class and especially not acknowledging the sacrifices and the nerfs the class has suffered over the years.
Most biased sorc comment for today found. How anyone can say with a straight face that a Change that eliminated all counterplay from your delayed burst Combo except for stacking Health or being a templar did not make your class better is beyond me.Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.4 -
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Losing major protection from resto ultimate is the worst nerf for me, personally. Very damaging.
Changes to other classes have had more impact on me than direct changes to my class.
I use 1 shield, it seems roughly the same. 20% less means really no change based on health caps.
Well, I lost 2k on my Ward in PvP, so yea...
Ya shields are a bit meh now. Even with high resist they still get cut thru like stinky cheese.
Not really till u stack shield!0 -
Sleep724✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs have been garbage ever since post clock work, with the removal of c frag. then we were compensated with a op rune cage that ripped the skill ceiling off our class, this didn't make our class better by any means, but people of course cried as if it did! then when you think it couldn't get any worse they target the class again and nerf pretty much everything then compensate us again with a cheesy ability such as pets. The point is without rune cage post clock work or pets in post elsywr the class would pretty much be nothing, and to say the class is bis or op because of one ability is disrespectful in regard to the class and especially not acknowledging the sacrifices and the nerfs the class has suffered over the years.
Lol.4 -
Noobslayer3255✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.4 -
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✭Noobslayer3255 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.
Just decent man... like it’s kinda good... finally.... like... I can finally face tank 5 people and still turn and burn kids that try to disengage out of frustration cuz they can’t burst me (lolz).... type of “decent”Edited by Insco851 on June 11, 2019 9:28PM2 -
Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭Noobslayer3255 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.
I know 11 people who have all rolled mag sorcs due to this perception. 9 have quit because “the class is too hard to play” and “dies too often”. An experienced player who cannot kill a mag sorc needs to go back to ESO school. The class is completely hard countered by at least one ability on each other class and dodge roll negates nearly all of its offense.
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Illuvatarr wrote: »Noobslayer3255 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.
I know 11 people who have all rolled mag sorcs due to this perception. 9 have quit because “the class is too hard to play” and “dies too often”. An experienced player who cannot kill a mag sorc needs to go back to ESO school. The class is completely hard countered by at least one ability on each other class and dodge roll negates nearly all of its offense.
Hard to play?
Dies too often?
This a troll post.10 -
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Those 9 players can’t be really experienced with mag sorc or pvp even. I know players who play mag sorc just for an easy way to farm ap.Illuvatarr wrote: »Noobslayer3255 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.
I know 11 people who have all rolled mag sorcs due to this perception. 9 have quit because “the class is too hard to play” and “dies too often”. An experienced player who cannot kill a mag sorc needs to go back to ESO school. The class is completely hard countered by at least one ability on each other class and dodge roll negates nearly all of its offense.
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Noobslayer3255✭✭✭Illuvatarr wrote: »Noobslayer3255 wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »Feels decent. Finally.
Decent? Finally? Magsorc has been near the top or the top tier PvP class since literally release. During every patch and every iteration of the game. Also by far the easiest, faceroll-iest class in the game.
I know 11 people who have all rolled mag sorcs due to this perception. 9 have quit because “the class is too hard to play” and “dies too often”. An experienced player who cannot kill a mag sorc needs to go back to ESO school. The class is completely hard countered by at least one ability on each other class and dodge roll negates nearly all of its offense.
Simply put, those players are shitters. The class is tailor made for PvP burst. The class has a freaking execute you can PRE APPLY and auto pops when your target is in execute range.
You realize almost every single target ability in the entire game is roll dodgeable? This is somehow exclusive to sorc? Your post just reads like you have extremely, or possibly 0, experience in PvP. Not to mention, curse can't be roll dodged and waits 4 seconds to go off- so you can easily combo it with frags and endless fury so they all go off at once and squishier targets legitimately go from 100-0 in the blink of an eye.
Not to mention mag sorc has huge mobility with streak, insane stamina sustain for a mag class via dark deal, incredibly strong class shield that can be stacked with healing ward and harness/dampen, pets that: heal, deal consistent dot damage, and can be used to mitigate 100% of incoming single target damage by using them to LoS. Increased mag and stam regen from passives, increased spell damage from passives, reduced magicka, stamina, and ult cost, extra shock damage and damage in general depending on target health, class major sorcery buff, class access to major expedition that also gives major resolve and ward and AoE damage to bring NBs out of stealth, free minor prophecy, unblockable and undodgeable CC, projectile absorption, melee/area denial with mines....do I need to go on?
Edit: and the most important ultimate for group PvP, an ultimate that disallows any target in the area from casting ANY magicka or ultimate ability, damages them, and heals you every 1 second it damages a target : suppression field.Edited by Noobslayer3255 on June 11, 2019 10:36PM6
