Shuffle and Race Against Time

juhislihis19

Forums: RAT looks good. Could you please take a look at Shuffle as well?

ZOS: Let's nerf RAT.

Vapirko

Welcome to how shuffle users feel lol. Now take away the minor force it’s akin to shuffle.

That said I think it’s still viable. The major expedition is real good, it’s also pretty low cost still something like 2800 mag on PTS. And the minor force is pretty nice imo, adds some burst.

Nerftheforums

Vapirko wrote: »

Welcome to how shuffle users feel lol. Now take away the minor force it’s akin to shuffle.

That said I think it’s still viable. The major expedition is real good, it’s also pretty low cost still something like 2800 mag on PTS. And the minor force is pretty nice imo, adds some burst.

Even with the removal of minor force, rat is still 1k cheaper and grants 4s of major expedition 😂

Vapirko

Nerftheforums wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Welcome to how shuffle users feel lol. Now take away the minor force it’s akin to shuffle.

That said I think it’s still viable. The major expedition is real good, it’s also pretty low cost still something like 2800 mag on PTS. And the minor force is pretty nice imo, adds some burst.

Even with the removal of minor force, rat is still 1k cheaper and grants 4s of major expedition 😂

yes, the state of shuffle is nothing short of a joke.

Nerftheforums

Vapirko wrote: »

Nerftheforums wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Welcome to how shuffle users feel lol. Now take away the minor force it’s akin to shuffle.

That said I think it’s still viable. The major expedition is real good, it’s also pretty low cost still something like 2800 mag on PTS. And the minor force is pretty nice imo, adds some burst.

Even with the removal of minor force, rat is still 1k cheaper and grants 4s of major expedition 😂

yes, the state of shuffle is nothing short of a joke.

It's more of a meme than a joke.

"Here, slot medium armor, you shall be fast and hard hitting". Heavy armor builds have on average 1k more wd and 1.5s more immunity 😂

Irylia

Stam classes already move faster because of
Hurricane/steed/orc/major exp pots/quick cloak/medium/bows.

Mag has what for mag speed?
Mistform/bird of prey/chains/path
But limited snare removal tools

Either drop the force or the expedition and give 4 seconds immunity.
I still believe snare immunity should be 6 seconds like cc immunity.

React

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Irylia wrote: »

Stam classes already move faster because of
Hurricane/steed/orc/major exp pots/quick cloak/medium/bows.

Mag has what for mag speed?
Mistform/bird of prey/chains/path
But limited snare removal tools

Either drop the force or the expedition and give 4 seconds immunity.
I still believe snare immunity should be 6 seconds like cc immunity.

Mag really did need the first iteration of RAT. There was no need for a nerf to the immunity whatsoever.

Shuffle still needs a buff though, as it is not even comparable to the other snare immunity options anymore.

I wish they'd listen to your other post and just bring all immunity abilities up to a standard of 4s. Less than that feels non functional in application.

Davadin

Nerftheforums wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Nerftheforums wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Welcome to how shuffle users feel lol. Now take away the minor force it’s akin to shuffle.

That said I think it’s still viable. The major expedition is real good, it’s also pretty low cost still something like 2800 mag on PTS. And the minor force is pretty nice imo, adds some burst.

Even with the removal of minor force, rat is still 1k cheaper and grants 4s of major expedition 😂

yes, the state of shuffle is nothing short of a joke.

It's more of a meme than a joke.

"Here, slot medium armor, you shall be fast and hard hitting". Heavy armor builds have on average 1k more wd and 1.5s more immunity 😂

how do u get Heavy with 1k more WD?

using the exact same traits, im at medium giving me 1k more damage.... from 2500-ish to 3400-ish.

Iskiab

Frudu wrote: »

Imo if you use a major expedition skill you should also remove all current snares on you and have a 2-4 sec snareimmunity.

Atm its a: u use a snare remover like shuffle and dont care about snare b: a+ something like bowdode 30% speedbuff and your a racecar c: you dont have a snare remover, you have a speedbuff but you are snared alltime and slow af.

This is exactly how it works.