WHY so many players RUN DK in PvP
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From PTS Patch notes:
General
Made several changes to “Gap Closer” abilities:
REMOVED THE SNARE FROM ALL ABILITIES that deal with character charges, leaps, teleports, or other movements.
Removed all minimum ranges from these abilities.
Drastically increased the speed of all of these abilities, and increased their auxiliary effects’ (damage, debuffs, etc.) range to ensure they always apply to their target.
Note: DRAGON LEAP and its morphs are an EXCLUSION TO SOME OF THESE CHANGES. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO FIRE A SNARE, which has new visual effects introduced to it. This is due to the fact it cannot be used in quick succession compared to other instant cast abilities. Dragon Leap has had its speed increased as well, but not as drastically, to ensure the visual fidelity remains.
Yes ZOS, Stam DK's are not OP at all, they are not running around Cyrodill 1vX'ing everyone at all...keep going ZOS, I will be levelling my stam DK.
PS: I changed the headline because it detracted from the discussion as some players became fixated on the title rather than the topic.
Edited by marius_buys on May 6, 2019 9:45AM General
Made several changes to “Gap Closer” abilities:
REMOVED THE SNARE FROM ALL ABILITIES that deal with character charges, leaps, teleports, or other movements.
Removed all minimum ranges from these abilities.
Drastically increased the speed of all of these abilities, and increased their auxiliary effects’ (damage, debuffs, etc.) range to ensure they always apply to their target.
Note: DRAGON LEAP and its morphs are an EXCLUSION TO SOME OF THESE CHANGES. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO FIRE A SNARE, which has new visual effects introduced to it. This is due to the fact it cannot be used in quick succession compared to other instant cast abilities. Dragon Leap has had its speed increased as well, but not as drastically, to ensure the visual fidelity remains.
Yes ZOS, Stam DK's are not OP at all, they are not running around Cyrodill 1vX'ing everyone at all...keep going ZOS, I will be levelling my stam DK.
PS: I changed the headline because it detracted from the discussion as some players became fixated on the title rather than the topic.
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✭Most people play stam dk because they go well with this “I’m scared to die” phase that’s prevalent in open world pvp. The players that actually run around solo are almost non existent.Edited by CatchMeTrolling on May 4, 2019 9:10PM15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What I find interesting is not long ago someone claimed about 70% of players run NBs in PvP because they were OP..
Their numbers were just as baseless as the ones presented here and I expect everyone sees through the fake drama. 70% yea.Edited by idk on May 4, 2019 9:10PM33 -
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✭✭✭✭✭70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.42 -
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✭✭✭I think it depends on the environment. In BGs DKs, Wardens and Sorcs are definitely the most common. I could see there not being a lot of 1vX DKs because they lack an escape tool.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
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✭✭marius_buys wrote: »General
Made several changes to “Gap Closer” abilities:
REMOVED THE SNARE FROM ALL ABILITIES that deal with character charges, leaps, teleports, or other movements.
Removed all minimum ranges from these abilities.
Drastically increased the speed of all of these abilities, and increased their auxiliary effects’ (damage, debuffs, etc.) range to ensure they always apply to their target.
Note: DRAGON LEAP and its morphs are an EXCLUSION TO SOME OF THESE CHANGES. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO FIRE A SNARE, which has new visual effects introduced to it. This is due to the fact it cannot be used in quick succession compared to other instant cast abilities. Dragon Leap has had its speed increased as well, but not as drastically, to ensure the visual fidelity remains.
Yes Stam DK's are not OP at all, they are not running around Cyrodill 1vXX'ing everyone...keep going ZOS I will be levelling my stam DD.
You forgot the part about leap getting a visual sorta like shooting star, so that unless you’re a tater you’ll know to block.
Also, folks should remember MAGICKA Dragonknights can leap to...so level up your MagDk lol.1 -
Renegade1O✭✭Someone got owned by a dragon leap and couldn't let it go, seriously. This is what we're complaining about? Leap?! Not some of the ridiculous skills like Mist Form that gives classes with good burst healing near invincibility against 10-15 man groups. Ok then. DK's are op now I guess.5
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sly007✭✭✭✭Yup, 70% sounds so accurate. I'm sure the other 70% sorcerers, and 70% nightblades, and 70% warden's, and 70% templars concur.15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭So when starting off a thread with such an outlandish statement that is not even plausible it really does not matter what you have to say. It loses all credibility. Just FYI,3 -
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✭Seems like there is a new stam DK 1vX video everyday. Probably more like 65.333333333% though and not 70%1 -
Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
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Dr_Ganknstein✭✭✭✭✭
✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.Edited by Dr_Ganknstein on May 4, 2019 10:31PM3 -
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✭✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
I base my speculation on PC EU server & my knowledge of class superiority.
Though this might be a bit different on Console.Edited by Universe on May 4, 2019 10:34PMSome videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
People tend to have opinions based on what they have challenges with and stuff like that. Considering when I do class missions DKs go pretty fast, even compared NBs. In the end those numbers are based on someone's opinion and nothing more.Edited by idk on May 4, 2019 10:46PM2 -
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✭DK only got popular again recently cause wings was made so good and there was an uptick in range toons. Also yeah tank Zerg meta.3 -
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✭Further like it's really darn hard to take anyone seriously when they pull statistics out of their funnel cakes.2 -
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✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
Fighting every alliance I can say it’s definitely sorc/nb and then dk.
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✭✭PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
People tend to have opinions based on what they have challenges with and stuff like that. Considering when I do class missions DKs go pretty fast, even compared NBs. In the end those numbers are based on someone's opinion and nothing more.
Indeed.
ZOS hasn't released official numbers.
We can all speculate, but no one but ZOS knows the real truth.Edited by Universe on May 4, 2019 10:57PMSome videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
Started playing ESO in beta & early access
User_ID: Daedric_Prince0 -
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✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
Fighting every alliance I can say it’s definitely sorc/nb and then dk.
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✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
Fighting every alliance I can say it’s definitely sorc/nb and then dk.
False
You either don’t play enough or only play one alliance. That or you’re on eu. Sorc and nb has always been the most played on na since launch.
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✭✭✭✭✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
Fighting every alliance I can say it’s definitely sorc/nb and then dk.
False
You either don’t play enough or only play one alliance. That or you’re on eu. Sorc and nb has always been the most played on na since launch.
Their comment and your comment are just as defenseless. There are already multiple people in this thread that say you are wrong. OP and universe clearly have different number than you and the only basis each of you have for your numbers is your opinion. That and a quarter will buy you pretty much nothing.0 -
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✭CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »PVP population is in this order:
1. Nightblade - 40%
2. Warden - 20%
3. Sorcerer - 15%
4. Dragonknight - 15%
5. Templar - 10%
A speculation, but probably more accurate based on class superiority.
When the upcoming nerf of Reflective Scale will go live, I estimate that the above speculation of 15% will go down to 10%.70% of players play NB. You just can't see them since they are sitting in cloak.
When the PTS changes go Live not anymore!
My above speculation of Nightblade's 40% will go down to 20%/25%
So 5% from DK and 15%-20% from Nightblade will either quit or migrate to other class.
The Necromancer's era has begun
According to what I've seen in pvp the OP is more accurate. I'd say DK, warden, NB/Sorc, then templar. Definitely DK is the most popular on xbox NA. Well for now anyway. Will soon be 100% necro though.
Fighting every alliance I can say it’s definitely sorc/nb and then dk.
False
You either don’t play enough or only play one alliance. That or you’re on eu. Sorc and nb has always been the most played on na since launch.
Their comment and your comment are just as defenseless. There are already multiple people in this thread that say you are wrong. OP and universe clearly have different number than you and the only basis each of you have for your numbers is your opinion. That and a quarter will buy you pretty much nothing.
Okay.
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✭✭✭✭✭You mis-spelled nightblade lolMinno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭✭Seriously, in Xbox console BGs
Sorcs NBs and DKs are the most popular
Some matches can have 4 of each.
Wardens perform just as well, but they definitely have a lower populace than the others.
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Prutton✭✭✭DK, NB and Warden are the strongest PVP classes, so it is natural they are the most popular.1
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CaliMade✭✭✭✭This thread is a joke. These baseless ass percentages are also a joke. Who tf cares witch class has the highest player count.
the class that gives you the most issues is the class you will notice the most, i get pooped on by stam nb. sometimes it feels like 90% of cyro is stam nb, haven’t died to a stam dk since implosion was a thing, i think i ran into one stam dk today and it was just a snipe spammer who melted faster than a pudding pop in hell. But i have zero trouble with stam dk and i only really notice them when they use DB.
I die ablittle inside every time a dk drops Leap for db. i digress
IMO if you think stam dk is op you must be damn squishy. stam dks have the lowest daamge in cyro. idk how tf you can have 6k plus weapon damage and just end up being the cc spammer that fossilizes at the perfect time and gets me tagged by Spectral bows.
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✭Integral1900 wrote: »Remember that 78.96% of statistics are made up on the spot 🤓
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✭Yes ZOS, Stam DK's are not OP at all, they are not running around Cyrodill 1vX'ing everyone at all...keep going ZOS I will be levelling my stam DK.
PS: Note to the analphabetical troglodytes, excluding Orcs of course, the first paragraph is from the patch notes and from official ZOS communication, the comment is from me an sarcastic.GM Golden Clover - PC EU (since 2017) Guildex https://eso.guildex.org/view-guild/17669 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1312113207951961
