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How to farm masters weapons?

Mariusghost84
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Ive never been in a group for the Dragonstar arena. Are these groups easy to find/make? Should i be tanking to get into them quicker? Ive done Maelstrom arena on vet and i have it on farm ( my best score is 475k and 1hr 5 mins ) how difficult is the Dragonstar arena compared? I havent really seen any groups for dragonstar forming in zonechat in craglorn either, or maybe i havent been paying attention to it. Some startup info would be appriciated :)
  • zyk
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    Be careful if you go there alone. I did and I was constantly ganked, zerged down, griefed and harassed by mobs even though I was holding block and didn't want to fight because I was just there for the weapons.

    ZOS needs to implement a pacifist mode for players who would like the rewards without having to overcome the challenge associated with it.
    Edited by zyk on April 26, 2019 5:44AM
  • russelmmendoza
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    If you can do vet ma you can do this too.

    Its just mechanics like vma.

    Goodluck and happy hunting.

    Groups doing vdsa is quite rare and scarce.
  • ccfeeling
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    VDSA , it's a very old 4 man dungeon , 25k dps is good enough to complete .

    In VDSA , it's all about the mechanism , watch some youtubes and the written guide before you go , not really hard .

    It takes about 1.5 - 2 hr .

  • Dragneel1207
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    if its your first time it takes more than 3hrs. If all are new then 4+hrs.
  • Hämähäkki
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    And if you're new to it don't tank, it's more stressfull, go dps
    Edited by Hämähäkki on April 26, 2019 6:46AM
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  • Zacuel
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    Took 4 hours for my first clear.

    So I'd say farming is off the table. Just worry about getting it done.
  • Mariusghost84
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    Wow, holy crap. Had no idea it was such a huge endavor. Thank you for the reply. Basically masters weapons are off the table for a while. Cant imagine finding a group that is able to spend 4 hours on a clear. :(
  • zyk
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    Wow, holy crap. Had no idea it was such a huge endavor. Thank you for the reply. Basically masters weapons are off the table for a while. Cant imagine finding a group that is able to spend 4 hours on a clear. :(
    The best thing to do if you're interested in completing vet group content is to find a PVE guild with like-minded players to join.
  • r34lian
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    Max cp vDSA virgin here with vMA cleared several time 497 being highest score looking for vDSA group ^^ PC NA server hit me up ^_^
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  • frozzzen101
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    Don't listen to scare stories. I've read a fair share of those myself. DSA is long, longer than vMA, but people are vastly overblowing this content. It's much easier than vMA, there is less incoming damage and it aged rather poorly. When I was doing it first time year and half ago it took us 2.5 hours with group that had 0 experience with it and at that time no dd of our was doing much more than 20k dps and that included breaks before final round and between rounds 5 and 6. Incoming damage is quite low so you can safely go with 3 dds and a tank. Just read a guide and you will be fine.
    With all scare stories going around I was legit disappointed in DSA. There is no fight in DSA that is more difficult than RoM or CoS HMs tbh. It's just learning new encounters, but they are easy enough.
    Just fetch couple friends and get it done. It's really not that hard.
  • Ratzkifal
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    zyk wrote: »
    Be careful if you go there alone. I did and I was constantly ganked, zerged down, griefed and harassed by mobs even though I was holding block and didn't want to fight because I was just there for the weapons.

    ZOS needs to implement a pacifist mode for players who would like the rewards without having to overcome the challenge associated with it.

    You forgot to mention Boethia herself using ballistas on you in the room with the loot before you even properly loaded in. ;)
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Mariusghost84
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    Don't listen to scare stories. I've read a fair share of those myself. DSA is long, longer than vMA, but people are vastly overblowing this content. It's much easier than vMA, there is less incoming damage and it aged rather poorly. When I was doing it first time year and half ago it took us 2.5 hours with group that had 0 experience with it and at that time no dd of our was doing much more than 20k dps and that included breaks before final round and between rounds 5 and 6. Incoming damage is quite low so you can safely go with 3 dds and a tank. Just read a guide and you will be fine.
    With all scare stories going around I was legit disappointed in DSA. There is no fight in DSA that is more difficult than RoM or CoS HMs tbh. It's just learning new encounters, but they are easy enough.
    Just fetch couple friends and get it done. It's really not that hard.

    Thanks for writing this. It gave me hope! :)
  • Mariusghost84
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    Does it by the way need to be compleded in 1 go, with the same group - to get rewards?
  • Hämähäkki
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    Does it by the way need to be compleded in 1 go, with the same group - to get rewards?

    There is no safe like in VMA.
    TherealHämähäkki
  • frozzzen101
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    Thanks for writing this. It gave me hope! :)
    Np. Honestly, hardest part about vDSA is finding group for it.
  • PeterUnlustig
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    Zacuel wrote: »
    Took 4 hours for my first clear.

    So I'd say farming is off the table. Just worry about getting it done.

    Then you clearly did something wrong. Just read a guide. Get a tank and 3 dds it shouldnt take longer then 1h 20min
  • notyuu
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    vDSA... think vMA X 4

    cuz it's basically vMA for 4 people..also known as, you aint soloing it, get a [good] tank, 3 dds and you can blitz it if you know the mechanics, if ya don't..then 1 good tank, 1 good healer and 2 dd
  • Dragneel1207
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    I run vDSA regularly.
    r u pc eu?
  • vesselwiththepestle
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    Voice chat helps, also having group members who are experienced in vDSA. I highly recommend finding some players who are willing to do vDSA several times, so you can get used to each other as a team and get better together.

    If you manage to find three players who are experienced in vDSA it gets easy, of course, even more so if they are willing to explain what you have to do via voice chat. (In my opinion it's easier than vMA.)

    If you have a group whose players can fullfil different roles, you can do it several times when it's weekly trial and get on the leaderboards with different characters, you'll have plenty master weapons in no-time.

    If you get a group with no experience in vDSA you might get the full progression experience, though, with a lot of whipes until you get the mechanics done. You don't need lots of dps, though. Although I recommend having one dps who can solo some mobs, a healer who can tank a boss and a tank who can survive some time without a healer. However, it depends on how you chose to play some mechanics. Even if you are doing a progression style group through vDSA I highly recommend to stay with one group, so you can get better together and when the time comes it's easy enough for you to get onto leaderboards. Also you can ensure that way that everyone gets the weapons she needs.
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  • Mariusghost84
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    I run vDSA regularly.
    r u pc eu?

    Yeah man i am! I am also max co and pull 35k dps on my stam dk. Could we group up some time perhaps? 👍That would be Awsome!
  • oxygen_thief
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    I just bought two staffs for one million gold. it's too long and tedious to farm dsa
  • Mitrenga
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    I just bought two staffs for one million gold. it's too long and tedious to farm dsa

    Aren't the drops BoP in vDSA?
  • MaleAmazon
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    The only problem is finding 3 people, none of whom is an idiot or has a power blackout.

    Took me a few months I think.

    Late night dungeoneers (IIRC) has a good guide that you can use, it´s written too so you can alttab etc.

    Hang around Craglorn, do the questline there if you haven´t... sometimes ppl LFM for vDSA. Just have a DD, tank and healer ready I suppose, to maximise chances. Try to get into a guild that has these types of activities.

    Basically, same as for other ESO team activities I guess.
    Aren't the drops BoP in vDSA?

    Tradable with the others that did it, same as for other trials.
    Edited by MaleAmazon on April 26, 2019 10:44AM
  • robpr
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    vDSA at current standards and available gear is easy just freaking long. 1h at min for a 4man dungeon is significant amount of time. Beside one stage there are no one-shots, mechanics are simple, even most of mechanics at last stage boss can be skipped by luring the boss in the correct position.
  • John_Falstaff
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    I'll concur, vDSA is long, but not particularly difficult. Some mechanics to remember, and last boss fight is a bit annoying because it's teetering on good positioning and timing and it takes time if the the group wasn't practicing this fight before, but it's just a matter of some getting used to it. I sometimes put runs together on PC/EU, mostly on weekends.
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    Zacuel wrote: »
    Took 4 hours for my first clear.

    I took some trade guild friends through vDSA last year. I was the tank, and my friends were the DDs and healer. It was their first time in vDSA, and it took us only about 1.5 hours.

    Having someone who knows the arena who can give instructions on target prioritization, where people need to be, and what the mechanics and strategies are will make a huge difference. If it's a group of four newbies, then I would highly recommend doing research beforehand (e.g., watching videos or reading guides) so that someone is able to direct the group.
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  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    As others have posted getting VDSA done and farming it are somewhat tough. It's hard to get a good core group together that can do the content in a relatively short amount of time (an hour for example).

    It took a long time before I finally was able to get a group together in a guild I am in to run it and now we do farm it but not like every week. More like once a month or so. Everyone has a job and kids and etc...you get the idea.

    If you all go in without knowing anything about it make sure you have a good three or more hours to spend and expect it. It's a lot of fun learning it and not looking at some videos posted on how to beat it. Now if you are on time constraints then maybe looking up the fights is the best way.

    My first run with three others where we knew nothing about it (Vet of course) took over 4 hours. But it sure was great beating it. Now we can run it in just over an hour.

    Anyway, good luck getting a group together. And good luck on getting the weapons you want!
  • Jameliel
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    Have a few friends I run it with from time to time. We carry 4th or let them in on final boss for gold sometimes. Takes about an hour to hour and a half depending. Hit me up on PCNA if interested. Same @name as here.
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    Does it by the way need to be compleded in 1 go, with the same group - to get rewards?

    There is no safe like in VMA.

    Is this still true?

    Does DSA still not have saves between rounds, even in normal mode?
  • FrancisCrawford
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    As is the case for Maelstrom Arena, DSA guides are generally for the vet version.

    In the MA case, some of the rounds in normal mode are a lot like they are in veteran mode (e.g. Rounds 5-7, where the main difference is that the final boss is a lot easier). Others are very different (e.g. Round 9, where the in normal mode the dreaded Crematorium Guards just puff out pleasant warm breezes).

    How does that play out for DSA? Which parts of the vDSA guides should be taken seriously even for nDSA, and which parts of nDSA can basically just be burned through?

    For reference, the most easily findable written DSA guides are, unsurprisingly, Alcast's and Xynode's:

    https://alcasthq.com/eso-dragonstar-arena-guide/
    https://xynodegaming.com/guides/allaboutmechanics/arenas/dragonstar-arena/
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on August 20, 2021 4:19AM
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