Console Improvement Thread

eso_lags

tinythinker wrote: »

Hello!

For increased visibility, would any console players be willing to share their wish list here for making ESO better on Playstation/Xbox?

I am aware of poor performance on some platforms, which is definitely on point!

But what about other things? Like building in some kind of gear/ability bar saving feature that PC players get with add-ons? Etc?

What are the biggest pain points?

Oh sure I have a few.. I've played console for about 4 years, on xbox, and played PC off and on for the last year and a half.. Performance is the biggest difference and the biggest issue. And i dont mean that my PC runs eso bitter than my xbox, which it does. I mean pvp performance on xbox is a disgusting, shameful, disgrace. And on PC it needs improvement, but its not as bad. Its unplayable on xbox, most of the time, imo (well vivec at least).

Other than that? How about we get the lore book and skyshard map built into the base game map. How about we get it before they monetize skyshards? because PC and console players do not have the same tools to utilize to grind skyshards.

How about some class reps? Amazing to me that console has no class reps who mainly play on console. Xbox and ps4 should have a couple each, at least. Also some actual pvp players thrown in there too. The class rep system actually tells you a lot about how zos views this community, l o l.

Maybe give console players access to twitch drops, or scrap the idea and come up with something that works for everyone. Maybe stop putting updates out 3 weeks sooner on PC. Maybe work on giving console more tools that PC players have access to with add ons, instead of doing things like eso logs.

Of course i dont think any of these things will happen. I know how zos views the console community. Second rate. I dont even think they do it on purpose, but they do it none the less. That wont change til the people there change or the people there change.

ArenGesus

We just need addons. Zos made it clear that they aren't going to do anything for us when they put skyshards in the crownstore instead of giving us a way to pin them to the map. The player community does virtually all of the QoL development for pc - let us have that for console and we'll just deal with it ourselves.

Kel

What better improvement can someone ask for than just having the game work and run smoothly?

https://youtu.be/hVFgFaZ8Pr0

Abilities not working and can't bar swap in the first part...stuttering frame rate from a simple wayshrine trip in the second part..that lasted four minutes. (Not all 4 minutes shown.)

This only happens on ESO. I have the best internet my state allows, fully wired connection, and there's no bottleneck or throttle on my end.

What better improvement than just having the game fundamentally work?

MaidenOregon

This.
So much this.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aip1NSWViR5niTqZwDmv4mMr8yQT

Kel wrote: »

What better improvement can someone ask for than just having the game work and run smoothly?

https://youtu.be/hVFgFaZ8Pr0

Abilities not working and can't bar swap in the first part...stuttering frame rate from a simple wayshrine trip in the second part..that lasted four minutes. (Not all 4 minutes shown.)

This only happens on ESO. I have the best internet my state allows, fully wired connection, and there's no bottleneck or throttle on my end.

What better improvement than just having the game fundamentally work?

pod88kk

tinythinker wrote: »

Gonna take some stuff from a PTS thread and it in to help get things going...

devilsTear wrote: »

Hi all not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I have some suggestions for us console players.

1. Please allow stack crafting, it's really tedious to have to spam the square button hundreds of times to craft potions/poisons/food/glyphs.

2. Rework the buff tracker, it's kinda hard keeping track of the 40 little boxes going on on your screen, like if I use volatile armour just show the volatile armour icon not the volatile armour + major spell resistance + major physical resistance, I already know volatile gives those so it's redundant to show everything. Maybe even give us the choice which ones show.

3. Let us see how much spell or weapon damage we have on screen, would be nice to know when we're all buffed up and no the glowing arms don't really help with all the other stuff going on on your screen.

I realize pc can do all this already with add ons but us console players would like this as well, that was all.
I don't know how to tag a dev so if someone wants to do that for me would be much appreciated, have a good day everyone.
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Weps wrote: »

Dressing Room and the possibility to switch your gear and skills setup in a split of a second is going to improve the QoL massively for everyone.

Yes, I've asked for this for all platforms in a couple of threads - a few (2 or 3) save slots for gear+CP+skills+attributes. You'd still have to pay gold to respec if you wanted to update your build before resaving, but what a convenience!

Odovacar wrote: »

All I would like is a combat metrics of some sorts.

If i could give you more agrees I would

Gythral

Surely console improvement is up to M$ and Sony...

MJallday

Given that mods/devs haven’t even acknowledged the video proof on this very forum of the graphics going ape in Craglorn , I doubt they are going to acknowledge our quite reasonable QOL suggestions

Malacthulhu

MJallday wrote: »

Given that mods/devs haven’t even acknowledged the video proof on this very forum of the graphics going ape in Craglorn , I doubt they are going to acknowledge our quite reasonable QOL suggestions

You mean you know lol. That is how much of a joke it is.

WeylandLabs

An improvement ?

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

You're views baffle me on the game - you're immature outbursts and growing mental instability is worrisome. You think this is an Esport in some social media platform to shame or make fun of other people less knowledgeable about the game.


Yet you ask for an improvement - my suggestion is too improve yourself. I might have made a mistake of playing this long to see the worst come from it.

For me Eso console was a casual escape to have fun with other people i used to game with. Obviously not all of you are that way and I understand that. But I honestly dont feel console needs an improvement based on the culture of social media mental instability.

That's my 2 cents ..

ArenGesus

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

An improvement ?

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

You're views baffle me on the game - you're immature outbursts and growing mental instability is worrisome. You think this is an Esport in some social media platform to shame or make fun of other people less knowledgeable about the game.


Yet you ask for an improvement - my suggestion is too improve yourself. I might have made a mistake of playing this long to see the worst come from it.

For me Eso console was a casual escape to have fun with other people i used to game with. Obviously not all of you are that way and I understand that. But I honestly dont feel console needs an improvement based on the culture of social media mental instability.

That's my 2 cents ..

Woah. Nobody who plays eso on console should ever see a QoL improvement because you had some bad experiences? You sound like the toxic one, which explains why you're so consistently at odds with the people you encounter.

edit: this comment is so funny to me that I can't leave it alone. This is my favorite part:

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

It's just such a pure example of irony that it's actually beautiful. Calling out console players for drama with a statement that is just dripping with it. I hope you're a troll, because this is a shining example of an outstanding troll comment. You are the absolute best, man.

Malacthulhu

ArenGesus wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

An improvement ?

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

You're views baffle me on the game - you're immature outbursts and growing mental instability is worrisome. You think this is an Esport in some social media platform to shame or make fun of other people less knowledgeable about the game.


Yet you ask for an improvement - my suggestion is too improve yourself. I might have made a mistake of playing this long to see the worst come from it.

For me Eso console was a casual escape to have fun with other people i used to game with. Obviously not all of you are that way and I understand that. But I honestly dont feel console needs an improvement based on the culture of social media mental instability.

That's my 2 cents ..

Woah. Nobody who plays eso on console should ever see a QoL improvement because you had some bad experiences? You sound like the toxic one, which explains why you're so consistently at odds with the people you encounter.

edit: this comment is so funny to me that I can't leave it alone. This is my favorite part:

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

It's just such a pure example of irony that it's actually beautiful. Calling out console players for drama with a statement that is just dripping with it. I hope you're a troll, because this is a shining example of an outstanding troll comment. You are the absolute best, man.

Be nice, he has only been on the planet for 36 years, maybe he is from another planet although I started online gaming at 1 month so who knows lol. Clearly his personal experience trumps reality. Has to be a troll post.

JadeCoin

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

An improvement ?

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

You're views baffle me on the game - you're immature outbursts and growing mental instability is worrisome. You think this is an Esport in some social media platform to shame or make fun of other people less knowledgeable about the game.


Yet you ask for an improvement - my suggestion is too improve yourself. I might have made a mistake of playing this long to see the worst come from it.

For me Eso console was a casual escape to have fun with other people i used to game with. Obviously not all of you are that way and I understand that. But I honestly dont feel console needs an improvement based on the culture of social media mental instability.

That's my 2 cents ..

Gosh. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I've met amazing, beautiful people in ESO on Xbox, some of whom have now been my friends for 3+ years. Retirees, working professionals, stay-at-home moms, smart college students. Crafters, gentle people who play casually and love helping others, rockin' 60k+ DPS who for whatever reason say they enjoy carrying my sorry butt through vet DLC dungeons... In fact, the people are one of the things that make me stick around despite all the other issues. There are some rotten ones, sure, just like anywhere, but they've been the exception, not the rule.

When I crafted gear for my new friend on his first level 20, he said that in WoW he always had to pay for that kind of help. I told him to pay it forward, because other people did the same thing for me when I first started, and this is 100% true!

I'm just sorry for whatever experiences gave you this dark perspective on the community.

JadeCoin

eso_lags wrote: »

The class rep system actually tells you a lot about how zos views this community, l o l.

I'm always slightly saddened by the PC-centered focus of many of the ESO news articles and publications, especially those for new players. For instance, how the "Beginner's Guide" list here has map add-ons as the second video (before Cyrodiil and rotations!), or how the "New Player Guilds" article here does not showcase any guilds on console. It sends the subtle signal that we're not in their awareness, similar to how it feels to have someone talk to another person like you're not in the room.

eso_lags wrote: »

Maybe give console players access to twitch drops, or scrap the idea and come up with something that works for everyone.

I don't mind if PC players get a few extra shinies, but it does make gem-exclusive items in the Crown Store unfairly priced on console. These should be adjusted in proportion to the free gems we aren't getting, or else offered for Crowns. Console doesn't need the gem sink that PC does.

ZOS_RogerJ

Just a friendly reminder, as some posts have been removed, to keep the thread civil, constructive and on-topic. While we completely understand everyone has their own opinions, thoughts, feelings and even frustrations, we want the forums to be a civil and constructive platform for the game and it's community as a whole. If there are any questions please see our community rules. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/60843/community-rules

DenMoria

JadeCoin wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

An improvement ?

As a console ESO player for 4 years, I personally dread playing with each and every one of you now.

You have filled console with the most dramatic, toxic enviorment I have ever played in any game in my 36 years on this planet.

You're views baffle me on the game - you're immature outbursts and growing mental instability is worrisome. You think this is an Esport in some social media platform to shame or make fun of other people less knowledgeable about the game.


Yet you ask for an improvement - my suggestion is too improve yourself. I might have made a mistake of playing this long to see the worst come from it.

For me Eso console was a casual escape to have fun with other people i used to game with. Obviously not all of you are that way and I understand that. But I honestly dont feel console needs an improvement based on the culture of social media mental instability.

That's my 2 cents ..

Gosh. This is exactly the opposite of my experience. I've met amazing, beautiful people in ESO on Xbox, some of whom have now been my friends for 3+ years. Retirees, working professionals, stay-at-home moms, smart college students. Crafters, gentle people who play casually and love helping others, rockin' 60k+ DPS who for whatever reason say they enjoy carrying my sorry butt through vet DLC dungeons... In fact, the people are one of the things that make me stick around despite all the other issues. There are some rotten ones, sure, just like anywhere, but they've been the exception, not the rule.

When I crafted gear for my new friend on his first level 20, he said that in WoW he always had to pay for that kind of help. I told him to pay it forward, because other people did the same thing for me when I first started, and this is 100% true!

I'm just sorry for whatever experiences gave you this dark perspective on the community.

You realize that you haven't actually "met" anyone, yes?

This is all ephemeral hoo-ha and there's no telling what the individual behind the avatar actually is.

For all you know, they could be a hyper-intelligent being from the planet Xelpex that is trying to take over the world and eat your brain!

JadeCoin

DenMoria wrote: »

For all you know, they could be a hyper-intelligent being from the planet Xelpex that is trying to take over the world and eat your brain!

Actually, everyone you meet in real life is from Xelpex, too. I just sort of took that as a given.

Cerbolt

Kel wrote: »

What better improvement can someone ask for than just having the game work and run smoothly?

https://youtu.be/hVFgFaZ8Pr0

Abilities not working and can't bar swap in the first part...stuttering frame rate from a simple wayshrine trip in the second part..that lasted four minutes. (Not all 4 minutes shown.)

This only happens on ESO. I have the best internet my state allows, fully wired connection, and there's no bottleneck or throttle on my end.

What better improvement than just having the game fundamentally work?

This. All I want is an improvement to the performance.

ThanatosXR

ArchMikem wrote: »

Make the options UI exactly like PC. We're missing so much, we cant even change the camera's vertical position.

Lolwut you can but holding the dpad down and using Rstick to zoom in and out, just zoom out for new position

tinythinker

eso_lags wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Hello!

For increased visibility, would any console players be willing to share their wish list here for making ESO better on Playstation/Xbox?

I am aware of poor performance on some platforms, which is definitely on point!

But what about other things? Like building in some kind of gear/ability bar saving feature that PC players get with add-ons? Etc?

What are the biggest pain points?

Oh sure I have a few.. I've played console for about 4 years, on xbox, and played PC off and on for the last year and a half.. Performance is the biggest difference and the biggest issue. And i dont mean that my PC runs eso bitter than my xbox, which it does. I mean pvp performance on xbox is a disgusting, shameful, disgrace. And on PC it needs improvement, but its not as bad. Its unplayable on xbox, most of the time, imo (well vivec at least).

Other than that? How about we get the lore book and skyshard map built into the base game map. How about we get it before they monetize skyshards? because PC and console players do not have the same tools to utilize to grind skyshards.

How about some class reps? Amazing to me that console has no class reps who mainly play on console. Xbox and ps4 should have a couple each, at least. Also some actual pvp players thrown in there too. The class rep system actually tells you a lot about how zos views this community, l o l.

Maybe give console players access to twitch drops, or scrap the idea and come up with something that works for everyone. Maybe stop putting updates out 3 weeks sooner on PC. Maybe work on giving console more tools that PC players have access to with add ons, instead of doing things like eso logs.

Of course i dont think any of these things will happen. I know how zos views the console community. Second rate. I dont even think they do it on purpose, but they do it none the less. That wont change til the people there change or the people there change.

The highlighted ones seem like the simplest, and would be a nice good faith gesture by ZOS

Starlock

So long as lorebook/skyshard on map is optional toggle. Some of us don't want that. It doesn't make sense for my character to magically know where these things are unless they are a seer or something.

tinythinker

Gythral wrote: »

Surely console improvement is up to M$ and Sony...

Maybe, but there are some little things ZOS can do to give some QOL improvements to console players.

If PS5 and XB2 are coming out in 2020 (a guess but I haven't heard any news?) that might be great for the general performance issues. But some kind of gesture before then, even a small one, might go a long way

tinythinker

Starlock wrote: »

So long as lorebook/skyshard on map is optional toggle. Some of us don't want that. It doesn't make sense for my character to magically know where these things are unless they are a seer or something.

I would guess that it would be if it was added since that's the trend for ZOS' UI additions, but good point

tinythinker

I didn't realize auto-run was not a console feature? Guess that can go on the list...

ProbablePaul wrote: »

But anyways, can we get loadouts and autorun for console please?