Littlebluelizard wrote: »Double the bank space already, this game is unplayable without eso+, and even with this and housing storage (which is unaccesible from regular bank), is not enough.
While I understand the desire for more storage, it seems a little melodramatic to suggest the game is not playable without ESO+.
You can play without ESO+, but you will have to spend a lot of time managing inventory, logging and relogging, etc. With ESO+ that is a lot less frequent. For some people that is unplayable because they don't have that much time to play, and when they log in the game, they want to play the game not manage their inventory.
DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
Says someone who does not subscribe.
Considering someone who does not subscribe, even if they buy all every DLC released in a year, they will pay far less than someone who does subscribe. Further, they do not have to buy all DLCs. If they want to skip dungeon DLCs they save even more. The difference is huge.
It is done this way on purpose to hit various price points in the market. Zos has every right, and is smart, to offer strong incentives to subscribe. Especially incentives like these that do not truly impact game play. This is sound business and the only think I see here is people complaining because they do not want to spend the money to subscribe.
Littlebluelizard wrote: »DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
Says someone who does not subscribe.
Considering someone who does not subscribe, even if they buy all every DLC released in a year, they will pay far less than someone who does subscribe. Further, they do not have to buy all DLCs. If they want to skip dungeon DLCs they save even more. The difference is huge.
It is done this way on purpose to hit various price points in the market. Zos has every right, and is smart, to offer strong incentives to subscribe. Especially incentives like these that do not truly impact game play. This is sound business and the only think I see here is people complaining because they do not want to spend the money to subscribe.
Well you already bought the game. You shouldn't have the need to pay for a subscription to have less annoyance - like inventory management (EDIT: This is a common practice for free to play games, having this business on a game b2p is absurd). DLCs on ESO+ is fine. If you think ESO+ does not impact gameplay with craftbag, you're dreaming.
Double the bank space already, this game is unplayable without eso+, and even with this and housing storage (which is unaccesible from regular bank), is not enough.
While I understand the desire for more storage, it seems a little melodramatic to suggest the game is not playable without ESO+.
What is in one's inventory is a matter of choice and many of us are pack rats but there is very little that is required to store in our banks to make the game playable. So to suggest the game is unplayable without ESO+ due to storage limitations seems rather false and misleading.
The funny thing is, ESO+ players that had to were filled to the brim when the crafting bag, then double bank space, were added are filled to the brim still. So if you are having to decon a set just because you want to try a different set you are still going to have that issue if Zos doubled bank space because you want to store as much as you can. Zos cannot save us from ourselves.
Littlebluelizard wrote: »DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
Says someone who does not subscribe.
Considering someone who does not subscribe, even if they buy all every DLC released in a year, they will pay far less than someone who does subscribe. Further, they do not have to buy all DLCs. If they want to skip dungeon DLCs they save even more. The difference is huge.
It is done this way on purpose to hit various price points in the market. Zos has every right, and is smart, to offer strong incentives to subscribe. Especially incentives like these that do not truly impact game play. This is sound business and the only think I see here is people complaining because they do not want to spend the money to subscribe.
Well you already bought the game. You shouldn't have the need to pay for a subscription to have less annoyance - like inventory management (EDIT: This is a common practice for free to play games, having this business on a game b2p is absurd). DLCs on ESO+ is fine. If you think ESO+ does not impact gameplay with craftbag, you're dreaming.
Umm, not really.
Fact - not everyone buys everything.
Fact - Outright buying all DLCs and Chapter each year costs significantly less than 12 months of subscription plus the chapter.
So when one considers both of those simple facts it makes solid business sense for Zos to provide these interesting incentives for ESO+. Solid business sense that you have not countered. BTW, those change were made by the business side, not the software development side.
You are entitled to your opinion and can disagree all you want. Zos has made their decision made known. It is great some chose to save money but that is their choice and as long as Zos is selling ESO+ with these incentive they are not likely to water down those perks. Again, for solid business reasons.
Littlebluelizard wrote: »Double the bank space already, this game is unplayable without eso+, and even with this and housing storage (which is unaccesible from regular bank), is not enough.
While I understand the desire for more storage, it seems a little melodramatic to suggest the game is not playable without ESO+.
You can play without ESO+, but you will have to spend a lot of time managing inventory, logging and relogging, etc. With ESO+ that is a lot less frequent. For some people that is unplayable because they don't have that much time to play, and when they log in the game, they want to play the game not manage their inventory.
Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »I have
380 bank slot
2 big chest
3 small chest
Only 3 character over 120 inventory slot
And i never had any problem with it
Jagdkommando wrote: »Here is the solution:
No ESO+ : backpack space 300 and bank 400
With ESO+ : backpack space 400 and bank 1000
Jagdkommando wrote: »Here is the solution:
No ESO+ : backpack space 300 and bank 400
With ESO+ : backpack space 400 and bank 1000
Solution to what exactly? Are your loading screens too short? Do you want hundreds of new items being added to the game just to fill that additional space? Would certainly make you "play" more, wouldn't it?
Don't keep junk I guess...
Kidgangster101 wrote: »Don't keep junk I guess...
Lol as a tank and a healer there are many many sets I need to have on hand to switch between for different trials and depending on what my heal/tank partner is wearing.
So what your saying is I should junk all those sets?
Not everyone is like a DPS and have one best in slot gear set just saying.
Kidgangster101 wrote: »Don't keep junk I guess...
Lol as a tank and a healer there are many many sets I need to have on hand to switch between for different trials and depending on what my heal/tank partner is wearing.
So what your saying is I should junk all those sets?
Not everyone is like a DPS and have one best in slot gear set just saying.
DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
Says someone who does not subscribe.
Considering someone who does not subscribe, even if they buy all every DLC released in a year, they will pay far less than someone who does subscribe. Further, they do not have to buy all DLCs. If they want to skip dungeon DLCs they save even more. The difference is huge.
It is done this way on purpose to hit various price points in the market. Zos has every right, and is smart, to offer strong incentives to subscribe. Especially incentives like these that do not truly impact game play. This is sound business and the only think I see here is people complaining because they do not want to spend the money to subscribe.
Emma_Overload wrote: »DeathStalker_X wrote: »No, I agree that storage space is one of the worst aspects of the game. I don't agree with it being doubled for ESO+ - I think ESO+ should be limited to the "extras" & cosmetics, not an integral part of the game. It's not exactly pay2-win, but it sure as heck helps. Also, the stupid storage trunk you get in Alinor should be properly linked with the rest of your storage. If you buy a house, you should have proper storage, just like you did in Skyrim (imho). A proper place for each type of item.
Says someone who does not subscribe.
Considering someone who does not subscribe, even if they buy all every DLC released in a year, they will pay far less than someone who does subscribe. Further, they do not have to buy all DLCs. If they want to skip dungeon DLCs they save even more. The difference is huge.
It is done this way on purpose to hit various price points in the market. Zos has every right, and is smart, to offer strong incentives to subscribe. Especially incentives like these that do not truly impact game play. This is sound business and the only think I see here is people complaining because they do not want to spend the money to subscribe.
I don't know why you feel compelled to argue about this. You're wrong anyway. I buy DLC *and* I subscribe, but I am bitterly resentful about paying for both. I don't even want to get into a discussion about how players were tricked into buying DLC when Tamriel Unlimited launched and then stabbed in the back later by the crafting bag.
The crafting bag isn't even the biggest issue at this point, because anyone can buy 10 extra accounts (like I did) to create a guild bank to store all their mats. The problem is all the OTHER stuff, the stuff you can't put in a guild bank. It's a fact that ZOS has been adding new gear at a far faster rate than they have been adding storage.
Regardless of how people are paying for the game, they are paying, one way or another. I think it's totally reasonable for players with inventory issues to ask for more storage. Furthermore, if these players are DLC purchasers, it makes sense that they would ask for an alternative to ESO+ for expanded storage. Why should they be expected to pay for the same content TWICE (renting and buying!) just to get a couple hundred more item slots?
Anotherone773 wrote: »I have ESO plus, I have a house that i store all my furniture in that i am not using. I have all the storage chest for items i cant actually place. I have max bank( with ESO plus), i have 3 trade guilds full of stuff( selling 30-40 items a day) and up until this event i managed ok. Right now i am full on bank space each of my characters got 50-100 items they wouldnt normally keep on them and im undercutting myself to move items faster
I dont mind paying for storage, its why i have ESO plus, but having to playing Inventory Management Online to play the game is ridiculous. As a bonus, i am now highly qualified to be an Amazon warehouse manager.