Please change the rules what we can do while in (not-active) Combat

Zer0oo

The stuck in combat bug is one thing but sometimes you are in combat rightfully and need to change something. Like quickslots especial siege in pvp. or someone in your group gets attacked while you still have not put the right skills on your bar(dunegeon). Adjust your build in a battleground to deal better with a special group. Change skillS in a keep fight to better fight to protect the breach. :..

Iskiab

Agreed. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to do things like mount, change skills, etc... while in combat.

Tonnopesce

It can be easy exploited with add-ons and you can have mutiple skill bars in seconds i'm ok with the siege/consumable stuff part.

FleetwoodSmack

I would love it if I could like... You know... Put siege on my quickbar again when I'm... You know... Not actually in combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w

WillhelmBlack

Being able to log off would be useful.

Mayrael

Tonnopesce wrote: »

It can be easy exploited with add-ons and you can have mutiple skill bars in seconds i'm ok with the siege/consumable stuff part.

This is pretty good reason to not being to switch skills in combat. But this whole in combat status is ridiculous.

1. Make in combat status dependent only on player, not their group or target.
2. Bind combat status directly to damage dealt and received, no other conditions, that's all we need.

Problem solved.

Cinbri

Idk if it was mentioned in patchnotes, but currently on pts when you have in-combat status but don't receive damage you can change skills/quickslots.

FleetwoodSmack

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Being able to log off would be useful.

Ooooh. I keep forgetting about that. And then you have to die just so you can log out.


#oof

MLGProPlayer

Just let us harvest materials while in combat ffs.

FleetwoodSmack

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Just let us harvest materials while in combat ffs.

*Busts the door down*

TLC: THIS IS A HOARDING INTERVENTION.

prototypefb

all the need to do is fix that damn bug, changing skill in the middle of combat is a bad idea.
combat reset could be lower also, what is the point of being locked in combat, also cyro guard/mage npc line of sight and attack range is riddiculous

Zevrro

Iskiab wrote: »

Agreed. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to do things like mount, change skills, etc... while in combat.

Mounting in combat would be ridiculous. Players would just use it to run from fights which would make combat turn into horse racing.

Zer0oo

Can we make the bug that made it on the last pts a official feature?

Let us adjust our skills, gear and quick slots if you do not active fighting to adjust properly to a situation.

Glory

I could see a mount capability with a long initiation or interrupt mechanic, something like:

• You can mount after 4 seconds and/or
• You can mount if no one has attacked you/vice versa (no damage events) in the last 2 seconds

MAYBE this could also work for skill swapping, but I could see it easily abusable (I honestly could see both being abused)

Cathexis

Should make it area based instead of timer based.

If there are no players around you for like say 80-100m.

Timers will be exploitable. A fixed radius will not.

Insco851

Mounting in combat.... no thanks.

Joy_Division

Tonnopesce wrote: »

It can be easy exploited with add-ons and you can have mutiple skill bars in seconds i'm ok with the siege/consumable stuff part.

I would 100% in every situation be happy that my opponent exploited this and changed their skills or what not if it meant I could mount when I haven't been combat for 5 minutes.

9 times out of 10 the other player is a potato and won't change the outcome of a fight.

Zer0oo

It was like that since ages and only changed with murkmire. Bring back the old combat rules

Please

Ranger209

Somewhere in the range of 30-60 seconds without giving or taking damage or heals should remove you from combat regardless of other conditions.

Glory

Joy_Division wrote: »

Tonnopesce wrote: »

It can be easy exploited with add-ons and you can have mutiple skill bars in seconds i'm ok with the siege/consumable stuff part.

I would 100% in every situation be happy that my opponent exploited this and changed their skills or what not if it meant I could mount when I haven't been combat for 5 minutes.

9 times out of 10 the other player is a potato and won't change the outcome of a fight.

Sadly, that other 1 time that it does make a difference, the person who lost (and didn't macro swap their skills) will blame the other player.

Emma_Overload

Zevrro wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Agreed. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to do things like mount, change skills, etc... while in combat.

Mounting in combat would be ridiculous. Players would just use it to run from fights which would make combat turn into horse racing.

That would be awesome, though. Horses would actually be useful, along with that Adept Rider set or whatever it's called.

Cathexis

This bug should have been priority 1 to fix like 4 years ago, and it should have been a very easy fix to just force you out if combat.

It has not been fixed. For no apparent reason I can understand they do not want players to drop combat easily, even though every player hates this.

Honestly, if someone on their new team reads this, this is easy love. Fixing this is a 1000 point slam dunk with the player base.

Zer0oo

10k ingame gold for the employee that brings back the bug that you can switch skills and quickslots in no-active combat

(only pc eu)

Sandman929

Zevrro wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Agreed. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to do things like mount, change skills, etc... while in combat.

Mounting in combat would be ridiculous. Players would just use it to run from fights which would make combat turn into horse racing.

That sounds like the best reason ever for being able to mount in combat.

idk

While Zos did finally acknowledge they added this bug to the game last year but I have not seen an update from Zos on this issue since November 2018.

It would seem Zos does not have this set as a priority. It would seem to be an easy fix to just revert the change they made preventing us from swapping out skills in combat if we had avoided damage for a given period of time. Then again, this another example of Matt Firor's genius and his amazing managerial skill. /s

frozzzen101

When you mount in combat your mount starts at 0% stamina. Problem solved. Can't be abused but it would circumvent in combat bug.

Stibbons

Great idea. Quickslot sieges and bottles would be nice. Mainly sieges.

Hexquisite

I would just like to mount after combat has ended, instead of having to run halfway across the map. Maybe they do this on purpose to slow the game down.

Itacira

Zevrro wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Agreed. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to do things like mount, change skills, etc... while in combat.

Mounting in combat would be ridiculous. Players would just use it to run from fights which would make combat turn into horse racing.

You say that as if it's a wrong thing x) I'd love to see that !

Mayrael

Again, all they should do is to bind "In combat" status only to our character not group members and make it that only condition that needs to be checked is damage dealt or recieved. If you didn't recieved damage or didn't dealt any damage in last 10s you're out of combat.

The reason why they can't deal with fixing it are probably recursive functions in their code which in certain circumstances leads to creating infinite "loop". If we would simplify to maximum condition there would be no problem with this issue. But since ZOS is stubborn and prefers to stick with their broken solutions instead of making complete rework...

Gilvoth

if the guy wants to get on his horse and run away in middle of a fight, i think he should be allowed to.
no shame in running away from a fight that you aren't equipt to handle, let him get his friends and better gear and come back later when hes better able to handle me.