Necro Class - Just Another Rolling Nerf
Lab3360
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So most people are going to go out and buy the next dlc for the class basically. Bait.
30 days it will be nerfed. Switch.
Pattern and practice here. Wait till zos offers for discount. You will pay less and maybe avoid such early nerf.
Its just a sucker-play at this point.
They are going to take all the fun right out the class like they do every time.
Edited by Lab3360 on April 16, 2019 2:13AM 30 days it will be nerfed. Switch.
Pattern and practice here. Wait till zos offers for discount. You will pay less and maybe avoid such early nerf.
Its just a sucker-play at this point.
They are going to take all the fun right out the class like they do every time.
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Post-release adjustments are typical of any popular online game. Unpopular but necessary.signing off9 -
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Obviously it's not necessary if it's already in a perfectly balanced and healthy state. But what are the odds of that?This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.6 -
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Obviously it's not necessary if it's already in a perfectly balanced and healthy state. But what are the odds of that?
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For dummy smacking magicka Necro feels kinda underwhelming. And also not very fluid. Flaming skull is weaker than Ele weapon even with it's passive. Not sure if bug, or just I can have just one corpse at a time, but Blastbones sometimes dont leave the corpse for Mystic Siphon to work. Ultigen is tied to self heal that consume corpses - getting another flesh atro is very slow. But the sustain is amazing. Breton is not needed at all, probably should go with Khajiit or Altmer. Probably the cat, due to crit-execute.Edited by robpr on April 16, 2019 2:42AM1 -
SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭Tbh, this class might have crap DPS like Warden. Give it time.
It has good access to debuffs, but mostly beneficial for other players, including the DPS ultimate.
Minor Vulnerability via Shock Damage / Synergy, Major Vulnerability, Major Breech, Major Fracture, Frost Damage / Minor Maim, Heal Absorption, Minor Protection, Empower (for allies and pets), AoE resurrection, purges, and resistance buff based on % healed.
The class lacks major sorcery, major prophecy, or really any raw stat boosting passives or self buffs for damage. You'll have to rely on external sources, outside of the class.
Mages guild, pots, Psijic...
I just see them as a better healer than dps, but when parses start coming out, the numbers will speak for themselves, if they make it to live.
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As mentioned elsewhere:Post-release adjustments are typical of any popular online game. Unpopular but necessary.TheShadowScout wrote: »StarOfElyon wrote: »I'm sure the devs will make certain that the Necromancer class has no worthless/bad skills, skill morphs, and passives.
...the devs... will make... certain...
...no... worthless... or... bad...
...and because developers are also only human, it WILL become neccessary to rebalance thijngs once they let a great host of players at it, see it perform in the wilds of cyrodil, and notice where things didn't quite work out as intended...1 -
Undefwun✭✭✭✭✭For dummy smacking magicka Necro feels kinda underwhelming. And also not very fluid.
Several ppl have hit the new raid buff dummy for 80k on magcro.... and they said the exact opposite, that it's a fun rotation...Drank Sinatra Sr - PvP Magblade - DC
Juggathot - PvP Mag Sorc - DC
Jedi Mind Crits - PvP A-Hole Bowblade - DC
Dollar Store Thor - PvP Stamplar - DC
The Bone Sumpremacy - baby Stamcro - DC
Wârden Freeman - PvP Stamden - DC (on hold)
Lauryn Heal - PvE Magplar DPS - DC
Lil Orc Chop - PvP Stam Sorc - EP
Hamuel L Jackson - PvE DPS & PvP Stam DK - EP
Chandler Bling - PvP Magden - EP
Mahalia Lightborn - exiled crafting toon - cos you know, she's AD5 -
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✭✭Magcro is OP. Far from underwhelming. The rotation is nice, the damage is crazy. If you pair it with Breton, almost infinite sustain. Its really good. Sadly I think they will nerf it.0 -
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✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »Magcro is OP. Far from underwhelming. The rotation is nice, the damage is crazy. If you pair it with Breton, almost infinite sustain. Its really good. Sadly I think they will nerf it.
It's OP but you think it's sad it'll be nerfed?2 -
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Tho, many have done 80k+ necro parses already...Cleared Trials:
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Yea. We were sharing within guild around 100k dps was was people hit so far.2 -
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✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »Magcro is OP. Far from underwhelming. The rotation is nice, the damage is crazy. If you pair it with Breton, almost infinite sustain. Its really good. Sadly I think they will nerf it.
It's OP but you think it's sad it'll be nerfed?
Yea. Because it's really fun.0 -
Nazzraeda✭✭New dummy needs to be fixed before proper Necromancer testing can be done
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✭✭New dummy needs to be fixed before proper Necromancer testing can be done
Yea. Sometimes your skills hit super high. Next time they don't. Sometimes you do 80k, then you do it again, same rotation, same gear everything and have 120k.
So yea. New dummy does not seem to work properly.
160k blastbones is buggy. Also, all minions do 100 crit. Which is a bug too we think. Example blastbones, skel wizard.Edited by xMovingTarget on April 16, 2019 4:30AM0 -
Nazzraeda✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »Yea. Sometimes your skills hit super high. Next time they don't. Sometimes you do 80k, then you do it again, same rotation, same gear everything and have 120k.
So yea. New dummy does not seem to work properly.
Each time you start new parse it amplifies Light Attack damage, Elemental Blockade damage and Blastbones damage. It's those three damage sources that get inflated. If you relog then everything gets reset and first parse will be unaffected. Then it starts to amplify again with each consecutive parse You technically could get as high damage as you want given you've spent enough time parsing in the same instance! Edited by Nazzraeda on April 16, 2019 4:44AM0 -
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✭Dunno, I prefer to parse on "normal" dummy. So, what is your secret of your 80k+ you speak of?0 -
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Good for them?CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭I’ve seen a 210k MagDK parse, so I think all other classes are heading for the bin.1 -
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✭✭I hope everyone realizes a 100k+ dps test is bugged?"Knee-jerk reactionist."
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Valkysas154✭✭✭✭✭I think allot of ppl wanted this class since the game was announced so it wont matter
It also has the best class identity of all the classes i wish my warden could have a fully bar of stamina dps warden skills
instead of having to use weapon/guild/pvp skills that every one gets
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✭✭✭Valkysas154 wrote: »I think allot of ppl wanted this class since the game was announced so it wont matter
It also has the best class identity of all the classes i wish my warden could have a fully bar of stamina dps warden skills
instead of having to use weapon/guild/pvp skills that every one gets
Wut.
The stam necromancer bar setups don't look much different from a stamden. The two classes are really similar in a lot of ways, even down to the basic concept of the DPS rotation and the organization of the skill lines.
PvE stamden bars:
Bird, Rending Slashes, Shalks, Netch, Bird of Prey. Bear.
Hail, Caltrops, Poison Inject, Trap, Bird of Prey. Bear.
PvE stam necromancer bars:
Skull, Rending Slashes, Blastbones, Rearming Trap, Detonating Syphon. Dawnbreaker.
Hail, Caltrops, Poison Inject, Skeletal Archer, Detonating Syphon. Colossus.
Or something like that.
Not much of a difference.0 -
Valkysas154✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »Valkysas154 wrote: »I think allot of ppl wanted this class since the game was announced so it wont matter
It also has the best class identity of all the classes i wish my warden could have a fully bar of stamina dps warden skills
instead of having to use weapon/guild/pvp skills that every one gets
Wut.
The stam necromancer bar setups don't look much different from a stamden. The two classes are really similar in a lot of ways, even down to the basic concept of the DPS rotation and the organization of the skill lines.
PvE stamden bars:
Bird, Rending Slashes, Shalks, Netch, Bird of Prey. Bear.
Hail, Caltrops, Poison Inject, Trap, Bird of Prey. Bear.
PvE stam necromancer bars:
Skull, Rending Slashes, Blastbones, Rearming Trap, Detonating Syphon. Dawnbreaker.
Hail, Caltrops, Poison Inject, Skeletal Archer, Detonating Syphon. Colossus.
Or something like that.
Not much of a difference.
Last i looked 99% of the skill you just listed are not warden skills and not in any of the class tress /fail
2 skills is what a warden has for dps 3 if you count bear - no i dont count regen/buff skill and it still would not make even 1 full bar even if i did
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✭✭✭✭✭Necromancer has me excited.
I'll take a month of enjoyment, more than I got out of Anthem (the entire game - yes I'm still bitter about it)Edited by Waffennacht on April 16, 2019 4:28PM0
