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TIL Monster helm/shoulder weights dont matter

Beardimus
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Played since console launch, and have always hunted for Heavy Helm, Medium Arm Cops when it comes to Monster sets. As i felt the resistances gain was that fraction of a % higher

I've never golded out a non 'Perfect' combo - i.e. Medium Helmet and Heavy Pauldrons

Buying Med Chudan Arm Cops today i notice, resistances are the same. There no gain which way round you have the weights!!!

Has this changed? I swear Heavy Helm was always the 'Perfect' way round??
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  • Phaedrathallassa
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    It's always been this way. The idea that helm must be the heavy one is widespread - I'm not sure where it came from, perhaps some famous streamer started it and everyone else picked it up - but you can find threads dating back to 2014 stating that the armor value of helm and shoulders is the same very easily.
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  • driosketch
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Acrolas wrote: »
    Chudan's two-piece bonus awards Major Ward and Major Resolve at all times, regardless of the item weight.

    I know what the set does, I'm talking about the weights...and my assumption head gave more resistances than shoulders

    Chest gives most. Head, shoulders, legs and boots have the same values. Then gloves, and lowest is belt.
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  • Acrolas
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    Chudan's two-piece bonus awards Major Ward and Major Resolve at all times, regardless of the item weight.
  • Mojmir
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    only time weight matters for helm / shoulder is for undaunted passives, i recall 7 medium was a thing for awhile due to the passives in medium line but thats changed for awhile.
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • Beardimus
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Chudan's two-piece bonus awards Major Ward and Major Resolve at all times, regardless of the item weight.

    I know what the set does, I'm talking about the weights...and my assumption head gave more resistances than shoulders
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    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-02-18 - 16-02-18 & Sheogorath 02-05-19 - 07-05-19
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  • Mojmir
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Acrolas wrote: »
    Chudan's two-piece bonus awards Major Ward and Major Resolve at all times, regardless of the item weight.

    I know what the set does, I'm talking about the weights...and my assumption head gave more resistances than shoulders

    hmm, even with reinforced trait?
    Raising floors and lower ceilings by zos standards has created an iron maiden.
    No matter how well you played,when the game is over,the king and pawn go back in the same box.
    Be careful what you ask for from zo$, you always get punished.
    Call me toxic,your the one being slowly poisoned by greed.
  • Beardimus
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    only time weight matters for helm / shoulder is for undaunted passives, i recall 7 medium was a thing for awhile due to the passives in medium line but thats changed for awhile.

    Sorry I wasn't very clear, that's what I'm talking about i.e. 5 light, 1 med, 1 heavy for max undaunted passives. However i always aimed for heavy head and med shoulders.

    My learn is, that either way round makes no difference to resistances.
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  • Beardimus
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    It's always been this way. The idea that helm must be the heavy one is widespread - I'm not sure where it came from, perhaps some famous streamer started it and everyone else picked it up - but you can find threads dating back to 2014 stating that the armor value of helm and shoulders is the same very easily.

    That's awesome lol. And a heck of a doh moment - so many folks i know do the same. Kinda hilarious. Thanks for confirming!
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    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

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  • Beardimus
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    code65536 wrote: »
    It's been this for as long as I've played. In order of resistances...
    1. Chest
    2. Legs = Feet = Shoulders = Head
    3. Hands
    4. Waist

    For light armor DDs looking to do 5/1/1 with the medium and heavy being from the monster set, it's entirely irrelevant which one of those two is heavy and which one is medium.

    So i see! Lol, hilarious! All this time, 100s of sets lol.
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    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

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  • Beardimus
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Acrolas wrote: »
    Chudan's two-piece bonus awards Major Ward and Major Resolve at all times, regardless of the item weight.

    I know what the set does, I'm talking about the weights...and my assumption head gave more resistances than shoulders

    Chest gives most. Head, shoulders, legs and boots have the same values. Then gloves, and lowest is belt.

    Thanks, i knew the big bits & boots. Assumed shoulders were lower!! TIL!
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    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus - Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus - Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting for : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Lunar Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | TradersOfNirn2
    Trials : Saviours

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  • Wing
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    yeah I have always rocked a gold reinforced heavy chest regardless of build because the sheer amount of armor you get is huge.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I still remember years ago, before transmutation, when players would complain that they'd spent like 400 keys trying to get that medium divines shoulder, when they already had like 4 heavy divines shoulders in inventory. When I point this out, they would either enter denial mode and tell me I'm wrong or lose their *** because they wasted 200 hours farming something they already had. Good times.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on April 6, 2019 6:36PM
  • Beardimus
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    I still remember years ago, before transmutation, when players would complain that they'd spent like 400 keys trying to get that medium divines shoulder, when they already had like 4 heavy divines shoulders in inventory. When I point this out, they would either enter denial mode and tell me I'm wrong or lose their *** because they wasted 200 hours farming something they already had. Good times.

    Haha i bet!!! I would have!
    Luckily all I've suffered is not golding out sets wrong way round. And i guess a few 200k AP as i buy all mine from golden - sod RNG
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    Orcimus - Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

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  • ChimpyChumpy
    Necroing to say thanks for the post. Was just about to enchant the bloodspawn set and wondered the same thing, so thanks!!
  • JamieAubrey
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    Same, I just wear what I have, most of my sets are a random mix anyway

    *Edit* Those pesky Necromancers
    Edited by JamieAubrey on October 22, 2019 1:31AM
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  • oddbasket
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    It's a stat thing, most casual players go for heavy helms is for the health bonus so they don't care about enchants, since the other choice of med/light would be a waste as it's not their main resource, even though it only takes a little effort to enchant them.
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