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  • Jhalin
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    Taktak wrote: »

    That thread is full of hot garbage from players without a lick of sense

    NB has been getting nerf after nerf just like everyone else. The ONLY buff since Morrowind was a QoL/bug fix to Grim Focus

    That’s it

    They’ve had no other buffs

    Every change thus far has been nerfs and further erosion of the class’s once-unique playstyle. They killed the saptank, they killed the evasion tank, they gutted the hurt-to-heal playstyle

    They only thing they had left was dps, and that seems to be getting stupid unnecessary whiner-pandering nerfs too
    Edited by Jhalin on March 29, 2019 7:34AM
  • Blackleopardex
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    RIP... Keep the berserk on magblade, or I play only necromancer next patch in pvp. Oh wait, thats what they want! :hushed:
    6 NB: Tank, Healer, Mag/Stam PVE&PVP.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    DK and NB, two classes that are not aoe bot sparky spammers. RIP.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    So they are basically going to nerf NB dps.
    Hmm... As long as they will provide some buff for tanking or healing (role that nb falls flat at), I am fine with that.
  • gapps
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    Jhalin wrote: »

    That thread is full of hot garbage from players without a lick of sense

    NB has been getting nerf after nerf just like everyone else. The ONLY buff since Morrowind was a QoL/bug fix to Grim Focus

    That’s it

    They’ve had no other buffs

    Every change thus far has been nerfs and further erosion of the class’s once-unique playstyle. They killed the saptank, they killed the evasion tank, they gutted the hurt-to-heal playstyle

    They only thing they had left was dps, and that seems to be getting stupid unnecessary whiner-pandering nerfs too

    ... a nerf? maybe ...but suffered less then all others with sustain and now how crit works.
    SapTank and Evasion tank - yeah they killed it but NB-Dps classes are top for a long time, and that's for range and melee :S
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    Monkey Three - Magica Nightblade - DD
    Ufo Mammut - Magica Nightblade - DD
    Ufo 'Mammut - Magica Sorcerer - DD
    Been Obsene - Magica Templer - DD

    Saint Vitus - Stamina Nightblade - DD
    DŸSE - Stamina Sorcerer - DD
    Uncle Acid - Stamina Dragon Knight - DD
    Beehoover - Stamina Warden - DD
    Crave l l l o - Stamina Necro - DD
    Erec Zion - Stamina Necro - DD

    Belzebong - Dragon Knight - Tank
    Cosmic Dead - Sorcerer - Tank

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  • Jhalin
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    gapps wrote: »

    ... a nerf? maybe ...but suffered less then all others with sustain and now how crit works.
    SapTank and Evasion tank - yeah they killed it but NB-Dps classes are top for a long time, and that's for range and melee :S

    They are top by less than 1k dps. Given that the only role they can competitively fill is dps, that’s required or else there’d be no reason to take a NB into competitive endgame. Why take a NB if Magplar does the same or better damage and offers a sustain synergy? Why take a NB if Sorc does the same or better damage and provides two synergies and more cleave?

    That they “suffered less” should be reason enough to understand that there is no good that comes from endless nerfs. Morrowind was a mistake and these new changes being discussed are awful too. DK should keep their reflection. NB should be given back their dodge chance and stay topped on single target dps. Sorc should get their purely mag scaling shield back, let them have the best AoE potential. Templar’s shards should have their own unique synergy again, and Repentance should be returned to its group utility functionality.

    All these nerfs simply make the game bland and unfun
  • r34lian
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    More reliance on combat prayer then, and more DPS screaming "learn to heal, I only got 55k" like that one bozo from last night's pledge pug.
    IT'S A TRADITION IF DPS DIES IT'S ALWAYS THE HEALER OR TANKS FAULT!!
    2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton
  • SoLooney
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    For mnb, the only incentive to run merciless is to get the bow procs off. They should reduce it back to 4 like it was before and make it free again...

    Snb, still will be useful for minor endurance. 4 bow procs and free bow cast should also be implemented

    Heard this new combat designer hates nightblades too

    Slowly ruin a class that actually gives you good dps for mastering it well unlike some classes with brain dead rotations
  • Mitrenga
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    Today on ZoS HQ: "How further we can mess up dw magicka nightblades?"

    Please stop, you already ran dual wield magnbs to the ground.
  • gapps
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    Jhalin wrote: »

    They are top by less than 1k dps. Given that the only role they can competitively fill is dps, that’s required or else there’d be no reason to take a NB into competitive endgame. Why take a NB if Magplar does the same or better damage and offers a sustain synergy? Why take a NB if Sorc does the same or better damage and provides two synergies and more cleave?

    In top guilds then healer or others have to get synergies for the group, and NB has better execute most of the time then others. I don't say that's good or anything - but that's how it works :S -

    *edit: most of the time u need single target - not cleave. cause 30sec. Fights.
    Edited by gapps on April 1, 2019 10:06AM
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    THE UNITED BROTHERHOOD

    1234 CP | Tuck-Tuck-Tormentor before it was cool
    Spoiler
    Monkey Three - Magica Nightblade - DD
    Ufo Mammut - Magica Nightblade - DD
    Ufo 'Mammut - Magica Sorcerer - DD
    Been Obsene - Magica Templer - DD

    Saint Vitus - Stamina Nightblade - DD
    DŸSE - Stamina Sorcerer - DD
    Uncle Acid - Stamina Dragon Knight - DD
    Beehoover - Stamina Warden - DD
    Crave l l l o - Stamina Necro - DD
    Erec Zion - Stamina Necro - DD

    Belzebong - Dragon Knight - Tank
    Cosmic Dead - Sorcerer - Tank

    Brant Bjork - Templer - Healer
  • Namarkas
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    I mostly play PvE, and imo this is a PvE change. Even if I hate nbs with a fiery passion (both when I play mine in pve and when facing them in pvp) I think this is the wrong apporach. The reason why this even matters is bc combat prayer, the only other source apart from slimecraw, really limits in how you can play effectively, speaking for trials. It only affects 6 players, you need to be tightly stacked, and it still has the same cluncky, unneccesary targeting system (seriously it aims for a player, why?). The fights where you can do this are usually not the super interesting fights.
    Just make the Combat Prayer morph a 360° AoE (but not necessarily 28 meters) hitting 12 people, but scratch the heal alltogether for balance. Or use the other morph for this variant, the one nobody uses anyway. Speaking from a pure pve perspective, dunno how that would affect zergs zerging zergs in pvp. And let nbs have their solo buff. But ofc that would mean a redesign of a skill on a mechanical level, and scratching nb berserk is simply easier.
    Edited by Namarkas on April 1, 2019 10:27AM
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    macsmooth wrote: »
    Well guess what skill is getting removed from my nightblades bars no point having it without the 8%

    It’s a destroy all classes to make them dead so they can be class changed to necromancers and then they will be nerfed 3 months later

    if that's whats you think then you should stop playing nb at all...even without minor berserk grim focus proc is what gives nbs the top dps parses... why do people come here talking about stuff they dont even know about?.../facepalm
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    @Raammzzaa , how removal of something can increase burst? Unless they're giving Grim Focus something else instead of that buff.

    maybe they remove minor berserk to add major berserk? :trollface:
  • John_Falstaff
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    maybe they remove minor berserk to add major berserk? :trollface:

    Mmhm. ^^ The wording does leave a possibility that they'll throw NBs some other bone to replace Minor Berserk, but it's ZOS we're talking about. Between "plain nerf" and "a nerf and a buff"... they'll choose two nerfs. ^^
  • macsmooth
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    if that's whats you think then you should stop playing nb at all...even without minor berserk grim focus proc is what gives nbs the top dps parses... why do people come here talking about stuff they dont even know about?.../facepalm

    Why do people want to comment on a comment that was made 4 days ago and also ignores every other comments but then smacks themselves in the face

    But seen as you smack yourself then you shouldn’t play nb either
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