What if titles gave buffs?

Tasear

What if using title gave small buff to user? Would it be a good thing?

code65536

No.

russelmmendoza

Does cyrodiil pvp rank gives a boost?

susmitds

Former Emperor used to. But it was removed after PvErs complained.

WldKarde

Sure!

Especially if "Master Angler" allowed my to get my darned vMA bow

dazee

No. Not a good thing. people want titles to look cool, not to be BIS.

RavenSworn

Titles for non combat buffs? I'm all for it. Master angler giving extra swim speed.

Maybe an achievement for all critters in all lands killed, giving you a title of Hunt master, which then gives you a buff that has a red glow to all critters.

Crafting all possible woodworking furniture gives you title Woodcrafter and an additional emote, /puppet.

Titles giving combat buff? NO.

redspecter23

I'd say no to buffs from titles. Titles are for show. Skills and passives are for buffs. Sometimes they can overlap. You get a title and achievement for fighter's guild 10 which also unlocks Dawnbreaker. So it kind of already exists for the things that ZOS wants it to.

thedovahmon

<Cue GDMO War Flashbacks>

Artim_X

I don't like this idea. In fact I hate it.

Vandril

A number of MMOs I've played had titles that granted stat bonuses.

And I always hated it.

IsharaMeradin

Played one Asian MMO where titles did give various buffs. The harder to obtain titles gave more than the easier ones. And the more titles one had, even more buffs. Tho the amounts added by these titles were not really needed (proven by the fact that the game had existed for years before such buffs were added), some players were always insisting that others needed to use specific titles for the different roles.

We already have enough stuff in game that allows one to try and dictate what another should do in group settings. We don't need any more systems to add fuel to those toxic fires.

That said, if titles could be recognized by NPCs and allow them to offer up additional dialogue regarding the title's source. That might be interesting.

Example:
Player with Master Angler: *talks to chef*
NPC: "How has the fishing been going lately? Been wanting some fried catfish for a while now. If you have any, care to trade?"

Sylvermynx

Ugh. No thank you.

RedTalon

Besides how would you even work some buffs, for titles, like the one for dark brotherhood where you go out and slay the people with the odd eyes, given the name of the title it would just rise critical damage and so on, which means it could risk becoming required for some builds and so on.

There are also just a few titles for fun how would those even give buffs lol

Woulds be silly over all

MattT1988

Not a fan of the idea. Titles were meant to be purely cosmetic.

yodased

The problem comes from the execution not the label.

How do you get a title? You do something worthy of recognition.

That recognition is the title.

There are already buffs from recognition of worth. Fighter's guild, mages guild, dark brotherhood, thieves guild all give significant buffs for doing noteworthy deeds. If you want to throw a title on top of that, whatever thats fine, but to suggest that all titles have attributes, well attributed to them, has a very bad way of separating people and thats the opposite of what we want to do right?

Dojohoda

Let's not even go there.

starkerealm

I'm sorry, @Tasear, I really have to disagree with this one. It's not a good idea.

Runefang

A non combat buff would be great. Faster crafting or gathering times, more time for pick locking etc

starkerealm

Runefang wrote: »

A non combat buff would be great. Faster crafting or gathering times, more time for pick locking etc

That's the problem though, isn't it? You'd have to swap your title around based on what you're doing right now. Not, just set something that feels appropriate for your character and then forget about it.

TempPlayer

I thought it already provide a buff to one's inflated ego cause that's how I feel every time I see someone using it.

AndyMac

Off the cuff, no.

That said - it would depend on the buff .

Power buffs would definitely be out - but they wouldn’t have to be power buffs per se. Things like somewhat better farming chances for Grand Master Crafter, or better Roe rng for Master Angler I don’t think would beyond the pale.

6point6b16_ESO

Then everyone would run around with the same title... NO!!!

Turelus

Not a good idea IMO.

I would rather all buffs/gear/power come from accessible sources and some titles not exactly accessible to the majority.

Valldez

NO! NO! OH GOD! PLEASE! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

TheShadowScout

Tasear wrote: »

What if using title gave small buff to user? Would it be a good thing?

No, it would not.

The titles we have... are either "participation trophies" that everyone can get if they just plod through the questings, or "epeen badges" that allow the -good- and -determined- players to show off what they have achieved with their mighty characters!

It would be wrong to associate a buff with either - the "everyone can get it" titles are not worth a buff, and the "look how mighty I am" titles really do not need a buff on top of their already established mightyness!

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IF anything... titles -could- have non-combat advantages When Active! Like... "wear 'Pact Hero' title, get 10% off vendors in pact territory" or "wear 'Explorer" title, get 5% extra XP from explorations" or "wear 'Executioner' title, get 10% additional gold reward from assassination writ missions", and so on...

Silver_Strider

Only if the buff was so specific it was practically meaningless.

Executioner title: Increases chance of earning Tainted Blood when using the BoW.
Hero of Murkmire title: Increase chance of harvesting a Scuttlebloom
Saintly Savior title: Improves chance of dropping the Clockwork Curator Polymorph

and so on and so with the rest of the titles that they remain just a cosmetic choice with some highly superficial flare to it.

Knightpanther

Another Dead Horse ……….. No just No

starkerealm

TheShadowScout wrote: »

IF anything... titles -could- have non-combat advantages When Active! Like... "wear 'Pact Hero' title, get 10% off vendors in pact territory" or "wear 'Explorer" title, get 5% extra XP from explorations" or "wear 'Executioner' title, get 10% additional gold reward from assassination writ missions", and so on...

The problem with this, specific approach is, it adds another thing you need to do before undertaking an action. "Oh, I'm going to go buy something, I need to put Pact Hero on." Or, "Oh, I'm going to do Elam Drals's quests, need to slot Executioner." "New zone just dropped? Better put on explorer before running around the zone!"

I get where the idea sounds compelling, but ultimately, it would turn titles into something that needed to be micromanaged for optimal performance.

And, you can say, "well, but so what, the buffs are so small it wouldn't matter." Except, at that point, you're already applying discomfort to the player by saying, "hey, you could do this better if you took this extra step." Add to that, that the act of changing your title would be a tedious time waster.

Now, you could alleviate that with an automated title switching system (and someone would, almost certainly create an addon to quickly switch titles at that point), but that gets into the range of, at that point, why bother?

If the purpose of titles is to give us a way to further define our characters, for ourselves, then slapping a system like this on top doesn't really add anything. At that point, your title is no longer an act of self-expression, and you've removed that choice from the player, with another optimizing system.

EDIT: I could get behind the idea of achievements having minor, non-combat, buffs associated with them. Like, when you earn Hero of the Pact, you get 10% discount to merchants in Pact Territory, regardless of your title. But that would be a difficult to balance system, and I'm not sure it would add enough to the game to justify it, especially since achievements are already incentivized with things like dyes, costumes, skins, mementos, and other goodies baked into the system.

RaddlemanNumber7

No. There are enough buffs in the game already. No more power creep please.

Gythral

Hell No
power creep due to bad decisions is rife (proc sets etc), this would just add to it

It aint broken dont ZOS it!