Nothing.

DragonHeart000

I've heard of groups of 3 that like to kick the 4th at last boss just to mess with them. Only met such a group once though.

Alarde

I really want to know if unfair dungeon kicks are considered something in the reports. I play ESO for almost 2 years and i was kicked for little things in 4 or 5 occasions (like pulling a group of mobs as a healer in a normal dungeon) or not joining the group with a specific skill they want me to have (like shards or orb).

My behavior doing the content is identical in every run, and still in isolated cases when i have the misfortune to queue with 3 premade players those things repeat themselves with the same excuses after i PM the leader for a reason to have done that.

Probably i'm reporting those players in vain.

Casul

I don’t kick on sight. But if they aren’t bringing at least a bare minimum (light attacks and at least 2 skills, one being a spammable and another being a dot). Then I will ask them to change there setup. If we still have issues then I will attempt to kick, if it fails and 15 minutes has passed I will leave. No sense wasting 40 minutes on a 10 minute dungeon.

Now let me mention that if people are wanting to learn then I obviously have more patience. But blatant disregard for your group mates time is unacceptable to me.

Zacuel

That's the pug life for ya.

I always try to bring one person with me to insure I can't be kicked. That way we are safe if either of us feel like mouthing off.

But when I pug alone I play like I don't own a keyboard or a mic.

If the group is doing that badly I'll leave.

Like I said.

Pug life.

Miswar

The OP is correct and everyone knows it. I would say +80% of the player base have no place to go into veteran dungeons and no wonder they nerfing dlc dungeons atm.

How about actually learning to play the game and stop been absolute shite at the game?

Launch actibity finder and 3 times out 4 you are carrying people. You actually should start vote kicking these carry ons when you have chance maybe than few wake up and notice that they might need to learn to play. It is not even low cp issue... a lot almost max ot maxed out people are utter turds as well.

BloodStorm

Tanked and Did spindleclutch 1 veteran the other day and they all died 8 times each or something because they rarely ever could avoid the spider daedra bosses Aoe attack. Went though like 25 soul gems or something. Told them no soul gems and I ended up soloing the boss after 10 minutes or something. I find it fun so didnt mind but glad they didn't kick me for not reseting. They realized they would probably wipe again and have to start the bosses HP all over. I didn't get kicked but the whole time I was prepared to be kicked. I just expect it or people to leave because they are impatient.
Being a tank though you get instant que at least on PS4 basically so it's not frustrating too much but can be. DPS have to wait a long time often of course so getting kicked as a DPS would be more dissapointing but if fights require good Aoe to down Adds before they swarm in some boss fights and your DPS is lacking then it's basicly pointless. With bosses that are single Target and no adds you actually don't need good DPS if you have a good immortal tank and decent / average heals as it just will take a lot longer. The bosses with Adds are really the fights that you must have a good AOE and many new players don't realize that.

firedrgn

I would not sweat it. I have no problem kicking people who wont talk on chat thats qbout the only thing i will kick for.

Ive been kicked for no reason and ive been kicked because i sucked.. it evens out.

Tasear

Azyle1 wrote: »

We can't tell if you were truly kind or not. No one is their right mind would kick you JUST for that.

What Happened was they didn't understand he needed hard mode and didn't like him resetting it.

D0PAMINE

Im too polite to kick. I had to chain spam vArx HM on my tank because the one DPS we had (the other disconnected) was using the Sithis Touch set and Magnus and DW and Frost staff. Not only was he stealing taunt, but he would literally stack right on me which was annoying af. He would die every 10 seconds.

idk

Tasear wrote: »

Azyle1 wrote: »

We can't tell if you were truly kind or not. No one is their right mind would kick you JUST for that.

What Happened was they didn't understand he needed hard mode and didn't like him resetting it.

It goes back to what I have always said, form your own group if you have specific interests. OP wanted HM, they did not.

I also question if that is the reason or maybe just the final straw. I seriously doubt that was the only things that happened to lead to the vote to kick.

Besides, FG2 is still a dungeon where one person cannot carry the group all that much. You have mechanics that must be dealt with properly or people die. So I question the comment where OP said they carried the group.

D0PAMINE

Tasear wrote: »

Azyle1 wrote: »

We can't tell if you were truly kind or not. No one is their right mind would kick you JUST for that.

What Happened was they didn't understand he needed hard mode and didn't like him resetting it.

I thought that as well. Same thing happened to me and a friend. The other 2 left the group after 10 min of kick wars. Then we brought in Hakai lol.

Hexys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLmD_WVY-E

Casual live

rabidmyers

basically

AbysmalGhul

It's ok TC. I've been kicked by low cps and clueless players on cool down. Deal with it friendo

SydneyGrey

The only time I've ever been kicked was immediately AFTER we'd just defeated the last boss.
Everyone stopped to look at inventory.
I got kicked.
I was like ... whaaaaattt????
Either they just did it to mess with my head, or else they were all friends and wanted to do another dungeon after that one and wanted to make sure I'd be gone. Not sure why they thought I was going to stay there forever, but ok.

mocap

SydneyGrey wrote: »

The only time I've ever been kicked was immediately AFTER we'd just defeated the last boss

same. That was vet Moonhunter HM. We killed last boss and then i was kicked.

Obviously (at least in my situation) my team was a premade of 3 players, so they don't need me anymore and instead of "hey, dude, we are premade, can you quit from the group?" they just kick. Absolutely no offence from me.

FierceSam

Inhuman003 wrote: »

Don't worry mate I got kicked for looting in Hel Ra Citadel because of the other group not finishing their part of the map. And the player said do not loot in group chat and zone chat to me and said to me it affects the other player on loot for not being in the same room and kicks me out of the group. Oh on bloody normal mode too what a load of lol.

So what you’re saying is “I completely ignored the request of the raid leader, cheated half my group out of any loot and had a good laugh about it afterwards”?

A kicking was the least you deserved.

kongkim

QQ

RodneyRegis

Inhuman003 wrote: »

Don't worry mate I got kicked for looting in Hel Ra Citadel because of the other group not finishing their part of the map. And the player said do not loot in group chat and zone chat to me and said to me it affects the other player on loot for not being in the same room and kicks me out of the group. Oh on bloody normal mode too what a load of lol.

Not sure if srs

Zhoyzu

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

.....then explained I was a women....lol.

theres more than one of you?

Jazz_Funk

Don’t get stressed about getting kicked from a group. People will kick you for no reason. I can’t even count the silly reasons I have been kicked:
• Because my CP is so high they think its funny (CP1600)
• Because I am the only one sober
• Because the others queued for a random and decided to port to FG1 for an easy run
• For questioning why someone is fake tanking
• Because the others didn’t like the PvP guild tabard I happened to be wearing

Ultimately you are in control of how you behave and treat others but cant be responsible for how others behave and from my experience for every idiot you meet doing Randoms you will meet many more people that are decent. I find that generally most low level players are appreciative of the help and time you take to get them through a delve. I just took a group of random first timers to vICP and their appreciation and thanks for helping get them hm/no death/speed run has made my day.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

Miswar wrote: »

I would say +80% of the player base have no place to go into veteran dungeons and no wonder they nerfing dlc dungeons atm.

sorry but this makes zero sense to me

Edit: and they’re nerfing dungeons to try and get more people into them

MaleAmazon

To be honest if someone insisted on HM in a PUG that couldn´t clear that, I would vote to kick them. At least after several tries and some back-and-forth in chat.

Do not PUG with me expecting me to spend extra time catering to your achievement-hoarding.

Not sure if this is different on different servers / platforms. I really haven´t had a lot of bad PUG experiences lately (PC EU); it´s just your typical clueless tanks (and I´ve been one... once ) and people not wanting to play DLC. Only kick highlights in my memory include getting kicked because I had 'too much hp' (as DD in RoM, I always have some extra HP in PUGS), being kicked by some elitists in vFH because I had a little low stats (somewhat understandable, but you don´t have to be a jerk about it). Also accidentally kicking a low-lvl since I spam keystrokes throughout normal dungeons and reflexively agree to every popup on my screen (I apologized to him / her IIRC).


EDIT: Yeah, nerfing nDLC dungeons actually does make sense. Apart from the level requirements, which aren´t really a hurdle what with the rain of reward XP scrolls, events etc, the DLC dungeons aren´t really presented as being for more skilled players. And the difficulty difference is pretty huge for some. Add to this that the response 95% from your average PUGer is to fail and just quit, which screws things up for the other players, it makes sense to just make normal mode a faceroll and let veteran mode be the challenging one.

Sad bud true

witchdoctor

MaleAmazon wrote: »

Do not PUG with me expecting me to spend extra time catering to your achievement-hoarding.

If it is the pledge for the day, the expectation would be to do it on HM for the extra key.

MaleAmazon

If it is the pledge for the day, the expectation would be to do it on HM for the extra key.

I know that - but then do it with a guild, or ask before the dungeon starts. Do not play PUG with people who are not HM-capable through a whole dungeon, then insist on doing HM at last boss, try 5 times and then quit because you only want HM, screwing the other players over. Because yes, things like that happen.

It´s easy enough to log onto your tank and spam "LFM2DDHEALVETPLEDGES6KEYS" in Stormhaven or somewhere. Lord knows I´ve seen it.

IzzyStardust

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Probably kicked for obvious attitude. Only time i've ever seen anyone kicked has been due to their asshatishness.

Are you serious?

So someone breaks the HM that guy's been hanging with them to get, over a STUPID thing - and they kick him and that seems reasonable?

Okay, I guess.

Aznarb

Well it all depend on the attitude.

I got trash talked very hard to my 1st vFG2 because I've cancel the HM too.
It was the 1st time, and the game don't tell you anything about HM, so if you don't know..

Hopefully the Tank tell to the 2 other to shut their mount and he explain me. After that we did it w/o problem.
Same for ppl who insult me cuz I've a DK healer in vet... I've done all vet with this healer w/o any problem.

It doesn't matter if ppl are low or high CP, an ass is still an ass.

CassandraGemini

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Are you kidding me? This is why so many people hate low CP players. I Spent 40 minutes carrying these people through the dungeon. They were clueless, i was going out of my way to be polite to them and struggling in an easy dungeon, teaching them the mechanics. Then they kick me on the last boss because i told them to reset after one of them went into the bubble right after pulling the boss.

From now on every time some *** wants to kick a low CP at the beginning of a dungeon just because they're low CP, I'll be voting yes instead of no. I've always believed in giving everyone a chance, because everyone was new at one point, but what these people did to me was just messed up. That's 40 minutes down the drain. No good deed goes unpunished, even in video games it seems...

I've just been involved in a thread here that was about whether mechanics are good the way they are and there were some similar issues discussed (which got so heated in the end the thread was closed, I'm hoping it won't come to that here). I already typed out some stories of my own there, so I'll keep it short here. Been in that situation myself on the receiving end, but as a low(er) cp player. Me cp 220 at the time in normal Fang Lair with a group of 600/700 cp players. Got kicked right at the start without even entering the dungeon proper. Great. Didn't try that dungeon again for a while. Yesterday I did (admittedly I'm at cp 300 by now) and had a very different group of players (attitude-wise I mean), one of them at cp 170, the others around 500/600. Everyone was really nice in chat and we finished the dungeon without much of an issue. Yes, I died to that weird one-shot the bone dragon at the end does, because it was my first time in that dungeon and I had no idea what had happened at first. No one was being an *** about it to me. All good.
Another thing that I witnessed at one point was in Falkreath Hold (again on normal). Here, too, it was my first run in this dungeon, and even though I had quickly read through a description of it on the wiki that said there were lots of strong "normal mobs" and other hazards from the siege weapons, I kept wondering, why every single monster in that dungeon seemed to be aggroing on me and the other dd. What was the tank doing? Okay, still, we somehow made it through to that bossfight (can't quite remember the name of the boss) where you have three smaller enemies at first, and once you kill them you have to take their "souls" or whatever and put them into the glowing circles. Then a giant bone colossus-like boss appears. First issue: No one seemed to know what was required of them. That you had to run to one of the three smaller enemies as soon as they were down and then to one of those glowing circles. I was the only who did and that was only because I had read it on the wiki and it somehow stuck with me (just saying that I had the lowest cp of everyone in the group). Wasn't too much of a problem, though, as I just showed the others what to do and then they picked up on it. The real roadblock happened when the big, bone colossus guy appeared and for some reason the healer, the other dd and me just kept dying over and over, with the tank following a short while after. And then it occured to me what the issue was: The tank looked like a tank, S&B and heavy armor and everything, but all he did was just stand there and block, like, just for himself. No taunting whatsoever. We somehow made it through the first two bosses and the rest of the dungeon before that and I didn't notice then, because there are much bigger spaces in the other bossfights and with a lot of moving around it worked out, slowly, but it did. In that fight, however, you're confined to this realtively small space inside the protective circle outside which you take damage and die, and so the lack of a real tank who pulls the aggro became painfully apparent.
But, long story short (sorry that this became so long), what actually happened after the third or fourth wipe was, a vote popped up to kick... the healer. Yes. I can only imagine that it was the tank who brought it up. Of course I voted no, the healer was doing fine, they were the only reason we didn't always die right away. At some point I couldn't watch it any longer and even though I felt awkward doing it, since I had the lowest cp (the tank was around 550 cp or something), I typed a message to the tank to please slot a taunt and pull the aggro of the boss, so we can defeat him. Oh joy, he actually did! We made it through the rest of the dungeon relatively okay, but it still took around 45 mins.

So, what I'm actually trying to say here with all my rambling are two things. First: cp is not really a very good indicator of someone's ability. And second: Yes, some people are jerks and there are a lot of issues with the group finder and PUGs... but not everyone is the same and the cp number really is the last thing you should use to evaluate a person. I'm sorry about what happened to you, that sucks. But don't take that out on all the other low cp players who are decent people and decent players.

ErMurazor

Dont carry low lvls, i leave group asap when i get queued with thoose

Numerikuu

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Probably kicked for obvious attitude. Only time i've ever seen anyone kicked has been due to their asshatishness.

Typing out the mechanics and sticking for 40 minutes with a group of new players is being an ass? Once again, no good deed goes unpunished. Apparently being helpful is a negative act.

So instead you're gonna punish completely different, low-cp players who were not the ones that kicked you, merely for being low CP? Charming. Sounds like you were looking for an excuse to start doing so from the way you worded things.

Take a break, or team up with another person. That way you don't have to worry about being vote-kicked again.