Stamina underperforming PVP

Papachico

For a long time now stamina chars are underperforming compared to magicka classes. I mean stamina chars need to sustain two resource pools in order to survive where magicka chars only have to focus on one pool. Also magicka chars have sets that are for 1. heavy armor and 2. fully buffed stack up to 750+ spelldamage. Where stamina sets only give 250-300 as (5) piece armor bonus buff. There is just one stamina set that grants 500 wep damage on just one person for 5 seconds.... but you can understand that this is not preferred in open world pvp when facing muliple enemies, it also doesnt buff your heals. Also magicka chars have an easier life when it comes to picking ultimate for open world pvp it has 1. high direct damage which is also AOE, 2. an additional dot on it and 3. also a stun. Where stamina chars are depending on class don't come remotely close to previous mentioned ult for magicka chars.

buff stamina. please.

UndeniablyAVG

So I understand your sarcasm, and I agree that magicka characters don't have a great deal of choice for heavy armor damage sets. I just wish they would stop releasing heavy armor damage sets, hell even remove the ones already in game.

This is whats leading the heavy armor meta on stam, Ravager and Fury are providing so much more damage than medium sets, IMO if you want to deal damage you should be in light or medium. If you want to be tanky but hit like a wet noodle go in heavy.

Spell strat is very good when compared to medium damage sets.

Morgul667

May the stamina be with you

Dragneel1207

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

Papachico

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

you just made my day. thank you.

Morgul667

Papachico wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

you just made my day. thank you.

Lol

WoppaBoem

Nice one I like it and very much agree with the sarcasme.

#Remove7th&Fury

Gnozo

Make Fury give Spell and weapon damage

Papachico

Gnozo wrote: »

Make Fury give Spell and weapon damage

purple rat don't speak

Lord_Eomer

lol, stamina under performing in PVP..huh!

red_emu

I suggest you try rolling a mag character and go into PvP. Roll dodge once, get stunned after... No stam to break free... Dead.

Now roll a stam toon. Dodge, block, roll, break free, roll, block, break roots.... Still plenty of stam to deal damage... Alive and kicking.

Joy_Division

It's a great thread for seeing if people actually read the OP.

Mayrael

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's a great thread for seeing if people actually read the OP.

Not only read but also understand him and have enough knowledge about game to get the point of the thread.

Alucardo

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's a great thread for seeing if people actually read the OP.

Most people, and even me at first, would read the title saying stamina is "underperforming" and the last line asking for a buff, laugh then walk away.
What he's really asking for is more options. Because of the poorly worded subject you can't really blame people for not wanting read the blob of text between the lines considering how strong stamina actually is at the moment.

WillhelmBlack

Have you tried using magicka skills to even the odds?

Burtan

red_emu wrote: »

I suggest you try rolling a mag character and go into PvP. Roll dodge once, get stunned after... No stam to break free... Dead.

Now roll a stam toon. Dodge, block, roll, break free, roll, block, break roots.... Still plenty of stam to deal damage... Alive and kicking.

Since you understand how frustrating this is, please stop spamming stampede, petrify and cost poisons on people while they get zerged.

Tyvm.

Papachico

Alucardo wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's a great thread for seeing if people actually read the OP.

Most people, and even me at first, would read the title saying stamina is "underperforming" and the last line asking for a buff, laugh then walk away.
What he's really asking for is more options. Because of the poorly worded subject you can't really blame people for not wanting read the blob of text between the lines considering how strong stamina actually is at the moment.

Kids these days call one alinea a "wall of text". What i've been taught is that if you want to make a point you need to write atleast several sentences in order to address the subject correctly. But unfortunatly you are right people seem to become lazy, or call it stupid or hell even uneducated.

Kuramas9tails

You do realize Magic builds in PVP have a disadvantage when it comes to...oh I don't know,

break free
roll dodge
block
running

You know, all the essential moves that can make or break a fight.

ATomiX96

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

Dragneel1207

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

?

WoppaBoem

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

?

This post is sarcasme, he makes exactly the same points as you but in reverse

Own

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

?

Everything he said was Opposite for stam/mag. He's a long time good player on a StamDK, last time I saw him at least. Normally people don't bash their own playstyles so that's what got me haha.

Morgul667

Own wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

ATomiX96 wrote: »

Dragneel1207 wrote: »

mag chars also have disadvantages. I think the OP never played mag toon and i suggest trying once and check it
I also thought mag chars are OP in the beginning and then i tried my magden and i understood the problems of the mag

mag char has limited stam and when u root them they are like sitting ducks and they dont have heavy armor sets that are as good as seventh, fury etc..

?

Everything he said was Opposite for stam/mag. He's a long time good player on a StamDK, last time I saw him at least. Normally people don't bash their own playstyles so that's what got me haha.

That s actually pretty obvious if you read the post

Holycannoli

Do you mean buff stamblade or buff stam sorc? Because one doesn't need a buff and the other always needs a nerf.

Papachico

Holycannoli wrote: »

Do you mean buff stamblade or buff stam sorc? Because one doesn't need a buff and the other always needs a nerf.

yes

Ajax_22

Alucardo wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's a great thread for seeing if people actually read the OP.

Most people, and even me at first, would read the title saying stamina is "underperforming" and the last line asking for a buff, laugh then walk away.
What he's really asking for is more options. Because of the poorly worded subject you can't really blame people for not wanting read the blob of text between the lines considering how strong stamina actually is at the moment.

You just confirmed you didn't read it.

Vapirko

Gnozo wrote: »

Make Fury give Spell and weapon damage

They should. Then magicka users would stop complaining about how OP it is(nt).

JobooAGS

Heavy sets like 7th and fury should mirror both stam and magicka giving bonuses for both. Kinda curious how people would change my mind

Arkangeloski

I'm sorry bro stam is at a good spot now, you say mag can run two sets and get over 700 wpd..I can run an infused Masters bow with wpn dmg enchant and get that, add hundings front bar and get 1,000 dmg total.

JobooAGS

Arkangeloski wrote: »

I'm sorry bro stam is at a good spot now, you say mag can run two sets and get over 700 wpd..I can run an infused Masters bow with wpn dmg enchant and get that, add hundings front bar and get 1,000 dmg total.

Did you read the post?

adosrc25

Stamina NBs are so weak atm.Buff incap twice amount of damage and let it also give minor healing debuff with major one.Actually increase the duration as well.Also make it undodgable and cant be block.In that case there will be balance for every class.