Important question at all Russian community!

Vyvrhel

Yes, PLEASE!!! Give them their own server. The best idea ever.

TelvanniWizard

idk wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

Well, there is neither a spanish version. Just deal with it and learn english, it will be super useful for many things in your life, appart from this (and many more) game(s).

You are correct about a Spanish translation in the game but it is a poor choice to suggest people just learn English. There is nothing wrong with asking for a Russian translation in the game, but something is wrong to suggest everyone should know English.

I expect you are in NA. Most that live in E & W Europe know more languages than those in the USA.

Actually, I´m in Spain, Europe, and know 4 lenguages. It took time and effort, but today I can go almost everywhere in the world and understand/be understood. The same applies to this game. While english isn´t my native lenguage, I took time to learn it (and play games in english, wich also helped a lot), something russians and everybody else can also do.

oxygen_thief

Vyvrhel wrote: »

Yes, PLEASE!!! Give them their own server. The best idea ever.

iam a toxic russian. i will stay here to continue to chat in russian because i dont care what you think and i want you to suffer till the end of time

Ekzorka

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Russians are the most toxic part of the community so they don't need anything.

Just be a realist and look at this forum. How many toxic answers have you seen there? How often the moderators write "We have removed some comments because of Rules. Please, be civil."?
You want to believe that you're better but it's not true. Almost for 2 years of playing this game I have seen enough toxic and xenophobic messages from Europeans. I saw the same flood in chat in another languages but nobody cares. But every time it comes to Russian language or cyrillic alphabet what do we see? Insults. Lots of insults from the so-called "best" part of the TESO community.
I saw how 2 guys from the certain European country had started to insult a girl for just "hello" word when she entered in dungeon. And they had continued to insults her in English and their native language before she left because of their pathetic gamestyle at lastboss. Don't believe? I have a proof.
Do you still think that you're right?

logarifmik

myskyrim26 wrote: »

logarifmik wrote: »

On which basis this accusation is based, may I ask? Don't bother answering. Obviously, I just hiding my innate toxicity behind the wall of good manners, but something must be said, right?

I'll tell you. Every time I'm in Stonefalls, or Vivec, or Summerset, I see this in zone chat:
- Р у с с к и е е с т ь ? (Any Russians here?)
- Д а (Yep)
- &*@#^! (Strong language obviously expressing joy)
Next comes a dialogue in a strong language only. In Russian. A lot of non-Russian players understand it, too - Poland, Czech, many other former USSR countries and neighbours, and even some EU players who learn Russian.

And you know what? I speak English and German, a bit less Spanish and Italian. And I never saw something like this in English, German, Spanish or Italian in 4 years. Weird, eh?

I know what you mean, and I don't like such behavior either, as well as people in the zone chat writing vulgar jokes in English by the way, but not all Russian players are like that. As it was said here before, sometimes it's not so easy to figure out, that person you're speaking in English with is from Russia, so such generalizations are just inappropriate and rather offensive.

TiaFrye

Browiseth wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

Just deal with it and learn english

@TelvanniWizard
I don't think you understand how difficult and time consuming learning a second language is. As someone currently learning Japanese, I can tell you it's not as easy as "just dealing with it"

English is studied as first foreign language in schools in Russia since elementary school, while kids are still flexible for that kind of thing. It's only person's own fault if being a kid they dropped knowledge over a few more hours to do nothing.

mocap

hey, what about Germans? I often see their:
grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung
in chat

but no one talks about their language or else. Only Russians... * sigh*

Pumppei

mocap wrote: »

hey, what about Germans? I often see their:
grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung
in chat

but no one talks about their language or else. Only Russians... * sigh*

Not about Germans a discussion.

Pumppei

KhajiitFelix wrote: »

Russians are the most toxic part of the community so they don't need anything.

You are Russian?

mocap

Pumppei wrote: »

Not about Germans a discussion.

it's about Russian language in chat as well and how it annoying everyone. So i ask how about other languages. "Hey, they are ok, we hate only Russian language in chat!" - thats what im talking about. Dumb double standards.

Witar

There's RuESO addon. Fan made translation. Pretty decent, you can use it but personally i prefer vanilla english.
If you stick with english too who knows might even learn the language while playing. So win win.

Elsonso

AlienatedGoat wrote: »

Прошло пять лет, и каждый год приносит больше контента.

Скорее всего, они не планируют больше языков, потому что работа будет огромной.

Да.

starkerealm wrote: »

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

Well, there is neither a spanish version. Just deal with it and learn english, it will be super useful for many things in your life, appart from this (and many more) game(s).

The lack of a Spanish language set has always surprised me a bit. It's a weird one to overlook, but, it's not there.

My thought is that the budget (technical and financial) helped define the translations, and they decided to start with just two. Why no Spanish is likely due to the relative popularity among the gamers in the two geographies. Spanish may be popular, but is it in the top three among gamers in NA and EU?

medhma

They are hating Russian because you can't write say in Chinese or Arabic, human by default are mostly afraid of what they don't know or understand and usually they hate what they fear and since Russian is the most "foreign" langage in chat so they hated. And yes you find more people in zone chat offended when seeing Russian then they do when something in wrote in French for instance

Everstorm

medhma wrote: »

They are hating Russian because you can't write say in Chinese or Arabic, human by default are mostly afraid of what they don't know or understand and usually they hate what they fear and since Russian is the most "foreign" langage in chat so they hated. And yes you find more people in zone chat offended when seeing Russian then they do when something in wrote in French for instance

The cyrillic font used on the game is obnoxiously big. That is of course not the fault of Russian players but it just spams everything out.
I'm Dutch myself. On tv we mostly use subtitles on foreign programs and the bulk of that is in English so you start learning it from a young age. Been reading English novels since my early teens and thus never had issues with English games.
It would be great if humanity could one day decide on one common second language but with the current rise in nationalism worldwide those chances are slim.

logarifmik

Everstorm wrote: »

medhma wrote: »

They are hating Russian because you can't write say in Chinese or Arabic, human by default are mostly afraid of what they don't know or understand and usually they hate what they fear and since Russian is the most "foreign" langage in chat so they hated. And yes you find more people in zone chat offended when seeing Russian then they do when something in wrote in French for instance

The cyrillic font used on the game is obnoxiously big. That is of course not the fault of Russian players but it just spams everything out.
I'm Dutch myself. On tv we mostly use subtitles on foreign programs and the bulk of that is in English so you start learning it from a young age. Been reading English novels since my early teens and thus never had issues with English games.
It would be great if humanity could one day decide on one common second language but with the current rise in nationalism worldwide those chances are slim.

I'm very glad that there are people abroad who understand what's really going on. My regards.

By the way, comrades, check the last year thread about the Cyrillic font. I tried to draw devs attention to this problem, but ever still the problem is here. There were also people talking about how toxic Russians are, so they don't deserve anything, but those posts were deleted by moderator. Funny thing that this fix applies to everyone, not only Russians. We have an addon, by the Eight! It's QoL-like thing, right?

I wonder, should we always be so hostile to each other? Also, how should I call such hostile non-Russians? Toxic, I suppose. Anyway, what I want to say, is that such accusations are pointless and counterproductive. Idiots can be found anywhere.

Leocaran

Ermiq wrote: »

Well, if I saw that I would say them there is EN-zone as well, so if they want English-only chat then they should go to EN-zone. Common zone chat is for all languages, it never was English-only and will never be.

That's exactly what several people told him/her. He/she didn't care and continued for some time.

Hiruda

after watching this thread, i just wish Zenimax ip lock the game away from Russian player

Its adapt or gtfo, if you dont want to learn english and adapt to the game, just get out of there

russian player in this game are like people going to mcdonald, trying to ordering something that is not on the menu and then making a huge mess becauswante they cant get what they want

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and im not talking about ALL russian, i have some russian friends which adapted to english, they would be ashamed of some russian here

keevil111

[quote="Cundu_Ertur;c-5868763" since we didn't fight the Revolution to share forums with those lobsterback redcoats), [/quote]

OMFG!

I just spit up coffee everywhere!

Now I need a damn mop!

You got me good. LOL

logarifmik

Hiruda wrote: »

after watching this thread, i just wish Zenimax ip lock the game away from Russian player

Don't worry, soon Russian government will "IP lock" us from the game anyway.

Hiruda wrote: »

Its adapt or gtfo, if you dont want to learn english and adapt to the game, just get out of there

russian player in this game are like people going to mcdonald, trying to ordering something that is not on the menu and then making a huge mess becauswante they cant get what they want

Thank god that you don't decide anything here. That's toxicity by the way, comrades. A fine specimen.

Hiruda wrote: »

and im not talking about ALL russian, i have some russian friends which adapted to english, they would be ashamed of some russian here

People who are ashamed for the deeds of other people, because they live in the same country and speak the same language. Hmm, sounds quite chauvinistic if you ask me.

Being a member of the French guild, I met a lot of French players which don't know a single word in English. Ah, wait, they have French client, so they don't need to learn English. Now, Russians have a fan-made translation, which I heard is quite decent, so Russian players don't need to learn English to play the game. Same as French, right? Now, dear @Hiruda, would you kindly explain to me what's the difference between French and Russian players in this situation? Should French players as well... how it was? Get out of there?

oxygen_thief

Hiruda wrote: »

after watching this thread, i just wish Zenimax ip lock the game away from Russian player

Its adapt or gtfo, if you dont want to learn english and adapt to the game, just get out of there

russian player in this game are like people going to mcdonald, trying to ordering something that is not on the menu and then making a huge mess becauswante they cant get what they want

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and im not talking about ALL russian, i have some russian friends which adapted to english, they would be ashamed of some russian here

hey dude have you ever heard about VPN? This won't save you. Learn russian

Zatox

EU community is not toxic enough to be fun. But I'm adapted pretty well for it, and dont wanna a separate server or localization. ESO is the only place where I actually trying to speak English, so it useful to me anyway.

logarifmik

Zatox wrote: »

EU community is not toxic enough to be fun. But I'm adapted pretty well for it, and dont wanna a separate server or localization. ESO is the only place where I actually trying to speak English, so it useful to me anyway.

Have you saw those toxic Russophobes on the forum? I did. They are delightful.

A_Silverius

In b4 lock reason: This thread has derailed rather quickly
All this dude did was ask a question but was answered with vitriol.. I feel ashamed for my fellow ESO players..

Jayman1000

Pumppei wrote: »

Game is about 5 years old
But you did not add at least Russian translation in game.
That for the relation such? Your think us conveniently to play in English? We have of course an add-on on russification, but not everything is translated there.
I hope someone from developers will see this message.
Probably there will be mistakes in my message, sorry, i not so ideally know your language.

I think you should get russian translation, would be good for game!