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Extremely mad at this game

seipher09
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I am a huge pve player. Love the story and the classes and feel of the game. Recently decided I really want a shield that's only achievable from battlegrounds.

I said what the heck let's try it. First few matches went pretty bad, once I learned the exact goals and maps the games got really bad. Once I got a real feel for it it became the most annoying thing I've ever done in any of the 10ish mmos I've really invested time into.

As a huge pve player I always thought people on the forums just liked to whine about PvP. But after doing it I truly realized this games balance and PvP is just pure awful!!

Between the constant constant stuns hitting me breaking free became useless as the stamina cost hurts to bad so when I get stunned by certain hits it's useless to try without multiple teammates directly near you fighting. The aoes are just all over like crazy, certain nightblade builds are just insanely stupid making it impossible to even attempt to fight back.

Wow this game has great pve but zos...Just delete PvP you failed so hard at it in nearly every single balance aspect. Please play your game and see how broken it is.
  • ezio45
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    seipher09 wrote: »
    I am a huge pve player. Love the story and the classes and feel of the game. Recently decided I really want a shield that's only achievable from battlegrounds.

    I said what the heck let's try it. First few matches went pretty bad, once I learned the exact goals and maps the games got really bad. Once I got a real feel for it it became the most annoying thing I've ever done in any of the 10ish mmos I've really invested time into.

    As a huge pve player I always thought people on the forums just liked to whine about PvP. But after doing it I truly realized this games balance and PvP is just pure awful!!

    Between the constant constant stuns hitting me breaking free became useless as the stamina cost hurts to bad so when I get stunned by certain hits it's useless to try without multiple teammates directly near you fighting. The aoes are just all over like crazy, certain nightblade builds are just insanely stupid making it impossible to even attempt to fight back.

    Wow this game has great pve but zos...Just delete PvP you failed so hard at it in nearly every single balance aspect. Please play your game and see how broken it is.

    You know you can by BG weapons including shields with AP at any alliance vendor right?

    Got the 2 impreg staffs I needed in the first 10 boxes
  • dem0n1k
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    I agree with you OP that the stuns & roots in PVP need to be dialed back... it's no fun not being able to move whilst having totally depleted stamina. Not saying stuns & roots should be removed... just dial back the % of snares & the time of stuns & make the break free time consistent.

    Sorry to hear you had a bad time.. but the PVP in ESO is actually great fun for a lot of players! Cyrodiil is teeming with players every single day!

    I assume the OP is talking about getting a BG specific shield motif rather than an actual set shield.
    NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.
  • sigsergv
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    Battlegrounds are just fine comparing with AvA PvP in Cyrodiil. Battles are short and rewarding, it's the best place to learn PvP mechanics. You need to invest a lot, learn other skills.
  • BrokenString
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    Almost everything has a counter, it is more about knowing your enemies and it takes a lot of time and patience to git gud.
  • Algraxa
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    Premades and BG should not be a thing... Rejections should not be allowed... PERIOD, you get the hand your are dealt and make it work.
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    Fleeing is a perfectly valid tactic if you wander into a tough situation. Find or craft better
    gear, use skill points, or level up a bit more, then come back to fight another day.
  • Noctus
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    i was rly bad when i started out in pvp nowadays i can reach 20+ elims with like 1-5 deaths. back then the score was the other way around like 20 deaths and 1-5 elims :smile: . i advice u watching some yt videos and look how ppl do it in their games. some people work rly hard and adapted their builds perfectly so its like playing piano for them they instinctively do the right thing in every moment.
    your expecting to defeat people who rly put alot effort into getting that effective. there is no game breaking balance issues in the game. i personally switch every now and then my sets which i use for pvp there is no go to set and a press x for win button.

    again watch youtube videos especially alcast does a good job on displaying different classes and playstyles. in this match he reaches 32 kills lols

  • Noctus
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    u didnt even share ur class so i cant give u any specific advice
  • Syy101
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    I agree that pvp in this game is not well balanced, but tbh I don’t think you are in a position to even talk about balance now. No offense. I came from pve at first as well and know the pain when learning pvp.

    Balance is a thing only when you have fully learned your class, your skills and all necessary pvp knowledge. Everything before this is purely l2p. Since you are from pve, I guess you run into BG with full divine dps set, no impen gears, nothing to protect you or help you sustain. Pve and pvp function differently in this game. You will need different sets, you will need more balanced stat instead of just stacking magicka or stamina like in pve. You need heavy armor at first for better survival. You need impen trait to protect you against enemy crits. Yes the cc spamming is annoying, but when you play against vet players you will find that they can break free easily and wreck you no matter how hard you cc them. There’s much more to learn.

    Believe me you are only fighting many new players as well because of the match making system. The system sucks sometimes but it still tries to put players of similar levels together. I can tell the difference when I play my main and my new toon. What you faced are probably potatoes to others.

    Again this game is not perfectly balanced, but please learn more before blaming others. BG is already more balanced cuz of no CP and even group. Tell me what’s balance when you see those unkillable 1vX build and large zergs in Cyrodill.

    After you know more about pvp and get the hands of it, you may begin to love it like I do. I am mostly a pve solo player, but that doesn’t stop me from getting merciless title and emperor. It just takes time and effort like everything else.
    Edited by Syy101 on February 12, 2019 5:19AM
  • Noctus
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    u guys are right with impen it is usefull but u can actually go full divine and be good it rly depends on playstyle and how good u are with ur class. ur selling it as the holy grail of pvp :smile: . how much is 255 crit resistance in % anyway ?
    many people also use well fitted or infused combined witht impen. rly up to u?
    Edited by Noctus on February 12, 2019 5:40AM
  • BrokenString
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    At this point impen is a must for almost any pvp build. I run 8 pieces with it and it works fine. I remember when I started pvp and was being one shoted with criticals left and right by archers. I say again, its about knowing your enemies, if youre getting killed because of slows, use a skill to counter that, if cloaked characters are sneaking up on you, there's a counter for that too. Real experience is everything.

    Play, lose, learn, adapt.

    Edit: today I fought a Warlord guy in a bg with the same class, same race and same monster set because of helmet appearence, I'm Captain. Boy did he mop the floor with my face
    Edited by BrokenString on February 12, 2019 5:43AM
  • russelmmendoza
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    Frack, just buy it at a guild store, which one you looking for, ill send one as soon as i get.
    Where you play, post your deets here, ill it give to you absolutely free.
    I was like you, once, pvp target dummy, but i grit my teeth and stick with it.
    Now i'm pretty compedent i can make my group 2nd place with a premade group in match.
  • Loves_guars
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    I gave up on pvp here. Why? Well I think it could be fun, but after watching a couple of streamers and seeing how much time and thought they put into making builds, the fact that one of those guys can melt me in half a second, that they actually can group so they can melt me 4 times faster, the non responsiveness of my skills (maybe because of my 250 ms lag) ... All this it's just too much. I'm obviously not blaming those guys... Go ahead and have fun, really. But I will never going to be competitive enough with the little time I'm willing to spend on preparing builds and learning.
    Edited by Loves_guars on February 12, 2019 9:02AM
  • teladoy
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    Pvp is not broken, what is broken is the performance, the queues, the lag and the bugs.

    But ZOS don't care or it takes them a long time to fix always something.

    What is bothering a me a lot are the loading screens. They are incredible long when I log or I go inside some place or out.
  • Mr_Walker
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    Expect even more CC next patch....
  • Red_Feather
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    I like how guild wars 1 had a random arena and then a team arena to seperate PUGs from PreMades.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Sounds like YET another 100% L2P issue please stop making post when you just need to L2P
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Chelo wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    I’ll bet you anything the OP is running a PvE set up with no impen at all.

    Yeah, PvE players forget that PvP players will do anything in their power to kill the opponent, that includes adapting the playstyle 100% for PvP.

    Honestly a good PvP player will adapt to any kind of content in the game with ease (even the hardest PvE content), but a good PvE player will always have troubles adapting to PvP... That's because there's no established meta for PvP, there's no BiS sets, there's no rotation to follow, you just use whatever works for you.

    Also you are not playing against an IA that at the end of the day is programmed to lose if you play the right sequence. You are playing against other people who wants to win as much as you do or even more than you.

    You need to outsmart your opponents, confuse them, take advantage of their mistakes and use the small windows to burst them down, that's the core of PvP.

    What I like about the PvP of this game is that there's no limit for how good someone could be. Just when you think you are finally good, you find someone with the weirdest build who destroy you in seconds.

    Your right when you say that fighting in PVP is harder then PVE "easy mode" but you are 100% in the wrong talking about there is no meta and no bis in PVP especially when it comes to BGs since BGs is the easiest part of this game it's full on meta and bis gear since that's all it is. The best cheese gear in the game runs BGs since you don't have to worry about CP you can just go with a fill cheese setup and let your gear carry you to victory in BGs.
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