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snipe stacking health desync exploit

  • Beardimus
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    LordTareq wrote: »
    The way I read it, its a bug and not an exploit? Or can this deliberately be cheesed to trigger?

    Using a bug to advantage is an exploit, I think. Hence asking. Triggering is around definition again I guess.

    It's been bust for an age but the acknowledgment by them thats Its bust id assume would lead to Its focused use being an exploit. Nightmare to police etc am sure.

    When there have been bugs before like XP Im imperial city etc they have stated that doing it intentionally id bananable.

    They are NOT going to ban all NBs that spam snipe in PvP for you. IF they get around to fixing the REAL problem, the snipe problem will be solved. The only way to fix that is to fix the lag and desync issues. That is WAY different than the XP exploit in IC.


    There is your answer

    Thanks for your opinion. What's your source for your understanding of the real problem, and linking that to wider lag issues? Intrigued on that, or are you guessing..?

    As from the reps comments they are looking at Snipe.

    Not too sure why this topic annoys you so much, apologies for that. But I have a legit point, in my opinion

    My source is common sense. Really don't need a spread sheet to see an obvious sync / lag problem. It's been going on this way since release. They may gut snipe because you are salty, but that is nothing but a band aid on a much more serious issue.

    I'm annoyed by the issue, but what I'm annoyed by is the REAL issue.

    Ok, so you are guessing. As they haven't said they looking at lag and it's impact on skills. They have said they are looking at snipe, bug, health desync. Specifics.

    Saying lets not bother as it's lag is the reverse of common sense. They see a bug, a health desync, and are going to fix it. Lets see amigo, once they fix snipe...

    Sure a very very small % of the time lag has this effect. We have all had that. Tho i rarely see lag when i play - But snipe does it consistently. 100%-0% zero warning. We all know it, they know it, they gunna fix it.

    That's the chat here. I'm not totally sure what your problem is. You like snipe as is? You don't think it's got a bug? You think they lying? You annoyed ive pointed it out? Fearing an OP broken skill nerf? Unsure.

    My motive is post 1 in this thread. Glad its picked up, glad its acknowledges bust finally. What's the deal between now and then with folks using it.
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  • ArchMikem
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    An exploit is a bug that a player can cause on demand. To me having the snipe desync happen is completely random, and i even have an xbox live cheating report against me for it even though i never use the skill with the intent to desync people. How can I? I have no idea how it happens.

    Theres an actual exploit and then theres a performance bug that everyone just hates.
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  • Truewavesound
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    I've run thousands of BGs on most class/spec combos and I don't think I have ever experienced this "desync bug". The snipes I experience are always indicated with a very noticeable noise and it gives me the chance to roll, move, block etc. Snipe has never, ever been a threat to me. Perhaps it is people who have worse MS that this affects - I am not sure.

    Even when I am hit with 1-2, this usually leaves me above 50%. Perhaps building less like glass cannons could help too?

    I like going up against teams with snipers, as it means half their team won't be "team playing" and often ignore objectives. Almost always means my team will win.
  • Beardimus
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    An exploit is a bug that a player can cause on demand. To me having the snipe desync happen is completely random, and i even have an xbox live cheating report against me for it even though i never use the skill with the intent to desync people. How can I? I have no idea how it happens.

    Theres an actual exploit and then theres a performance bug that everyone just hates.
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    An exploit is a bug that a player can cause on demand. To me having the snipe desync happen is completely random, and i even have an xbox live cheating report against me for it even though i never use the skill with the intent to desync people. How can I? I have no idea how it happens.

    Theres an actual exploit and then theres a performance bug that everyone just hates.

    If it's random then that's fair, i just didn't know if it is. I hear you as rune cages main problem was Its break free bug not controlled.

    I guess the other broke skills like fear etc are just part of a build. Snipe feels like a build built around it, all dedicated on how strong the bug makes it. Hence Its noticeable.
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    I've run thousands of BGs on most class/spec combos and I don't think I have ever experienced this "desync bug". The snipes I experience are always indicated with a very noticeable noise and it gives me the chance to roll, move, block etc. Snipe has never, ever been a threat to me. Perhaps it is people who have worse MS that this affects - I am not sure.

    Even when I am hit with 1-2, this usually leaves me above 50%. Perhaps building less like glass cannons could help too?

    I like going up against teams with snipers, as it means half their team won't be "team playing" and often ignore objectives. Almost always means my team will win.

    Oh i agree on BG. They don't win, they just plain annoying. Like tether tanks making the game drag out to 15mikes.

    As for glass cannons lol that's not the issue. 25k+ health riding a horse in cyro and you are hearing the sounds as you read the death recap of 4-5 hits. Ace you haven't experienced that, but many have. But they looking at it that's the main thing.
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
  • Didaco
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    I can finally mainbar a bow without receiving hate mails regarding the use of snipe?

    About effing time.
  • Beardimus
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    Didaco wrote: »
    I can finally mainbar a bow without receiving hate mails regarding the use of snipe?

    About effing time.

    There is that!! :)
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
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