The downside of PvP.
Kel
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Let me start off saying I love PvP in ESO. The combat is fun and fast paced and exciting.
This situation, however, is anything but fun.
I don't understand why players do this, what they get out of it, or why this is even allowed....but this is something that definitely ruins fun.
https://youtu.be/Vggzw7K5FiI
This situation, however, is anything but fun.
I don't understand why players do this, what they get out of it, or why this is even allowed....but this is something that definitely ruins fun.
https://youtu.be/Vggzw7K5FiI22
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People don’t like gankers? Idk sometimes I warn people about gankers but usually only if it’s going to be an Xv1 situation and it’s someone I respect as a player. Perhaps they wanted to duel and they didn’t want you ganking?4 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭That’s some BS for sure. I’ve had that happen before as well.
A level 10 on my team, giving away my position to a zerg.8 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People don’t like gankers? Idk sometimes I warn people about gankers but usually only if it’s going to be an Xv1 situation and it’s someone I respect as a player. Perhaps they wanted to duel and they didn’t want you ganking?
Except I wasnt ganking, just trying to get back to the keep. I'm clearly moving away...
Still, doesn't make it any less ***
P.S. He's helping a ganker...Edited by Kel on February 6, 2019 3:05PM11 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭Haha well, he must have seen you using Snipe and rather had you dead
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Betty Breeze - Magwarden
Hunts S'hitblades - Stamplar
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✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »I do love laughing at someone else's expense.
And this comment is why so many believe PvP is a toxic environment.
Well done proving them right...29 -
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And this comment is why so many believe PvP is a toxic environment.
Well done proving them right...
PvP is no environment for care bears or bow tards with some fantasy of not dying. Which one are you?PC EU12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People don’t like gankers? Idk sometimes I warn people about gankers but usually only if it’s going to be an Xv1 situation and it’s someone I respect as a player. Perhaps they wanted to duel and they didn’t want you ganking?
Then get the f*** away from a keep if you want to duel, if you duel around a keep/res/road on the way to a keep then you are fair game11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »
PvP is no environment for care bears or bow tards with some fantasy of not dying. Which one are you?
I don't care about dying, I care about not having someone on my own alliance pointing out my location. The complaint isn't about dying, it's about spying.
Not too bright, are you?
Edited by Kel on February 6, 2019 3:10PM30 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol this clearly was someone who doesn't like gankers. And I dont believe you were trying to get away. You buffed up your weapon damage to head back to the keep?10 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lol this clearly was someone who doesn't like gankers. And I dont believe you were trying to get away. You buffed up your weapon damage to head back to the keep?
Again, he's helping a ganker.
So, he doesn't like gankers, so he's helping a ganker?
Where's the logic in that?
Players buff..it's a habit. I also stayed on my sword bar...funny how you don't mention that.
Yes, I was clearly bow ganking on my sword bar...
Of course the spying isn't the focus...15 -
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Again, he's helping a ganker.
So, he doesn't like gankers, so he's helping a ganker?
Where's the logic in that?
Players buff..it's a habit. I also stayed on my sword bar...funny how you don't mention that.
Yes, I was clearly bow ganking on my sword bar...
Of course the spying isn't the focus...
Who care, if this happens all the time oke yes but once in a while so be it. Do you want your world the be perfect?Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only4 -
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Who care, if this happens all the time oke yes but once in a while so be it. Do you want your world the be perfect?
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Except I wasnt ganking, just trying to get back to the keep. I'm clearly moving away...
Still, doesn't make it any less ***
P.S. He's helping a ganker...
You telling me you didn't start on your bow bar, buff merciless and bar swap and buff FM? Sounds like you're not being straight with us so why would I believe that was a ganker?
I mean coordinating with an enemy against an ally is wrong, sure; but you're not being honest and for all we know, theres more to the story.8 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭I would always support this happening for all the toxic people in zone chat disrespecting eachother which you cant attack because of the same alliance. I think I need to do this as well with some mates, can be fun.Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only1
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✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »
PvP is no environment for care bears or bow tards with some fantasy of not dying. Which one are you?
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You telling me you didn't start on your bow bar, buff merciless and bar swap and buff FM? Sounds like you're not being straight with us so why would I believe that was a ganker?
I mean coordinating with an enemy against an ally is wrong, sure; but you're not being honest and for all we know, theres more to the story.
Um..yeah, I buff all the time. Do you not? You never know in Cyrodiil.
And who was I sniping here...everyone is a mIle away from me and moving away. Being straight with you? You can see it for yourself... They only came to me because a *** nut showed them where I was.
Edited by Kel on February 6, 2019 3:34PM4 -
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I don't care about dying, I care about not having someone on my own alliance pointing out my location. The complaint isn't about dying, it's about spying.
Not too bright, are you?
Team purple and team green are what Zos calls creative thinking, Cx. Report it and they won't do anything. It gets really fun when the turncoat leads the rest of their group into a zerg of two fractions working together. It doesn't bother me because I am pretty much use to all the shenanigans in PvP. Though if it bothers you that much, be sure to tell your guildies about this player and you will get much better results....Give him the horse simulator game, or let it go.
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✭✭✭✭✭Girl_Number8 wrote: »
Team purple and team green are what Zos calls creative thinking, Cx. Report it and they won't do anything. It gets really fun when the turncoat leads the rest of their group into a zerg of two fractions working together. It doesn't bother me because I am pretty much use to all the shenanigans in PvP. Though if it bothers you that much, be sure to tell your guildies about this player and you will get much better results....Give him the horse simulator game, or let it go.
I told all of zone this persons name. Turns out, he does this alot. He's a blue player who spys on yellow and red chat, and does what he does like in the video above.
Was hoping for a constructive chat on the nature of spying, not "hur hur...you buffed your weapons..."
My mistake for forgetting the nature of these forums.Edited by Kel on February 6, 2019 3:38PM12 -
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Again, he's helping a ganker.
So, he doesn't like gankers, so he's helping a ganker?
Where's the logic in that?
Players buff..it's a habit. I also stayed on my sword bar...funny how you don't mention that.
Yes, I was clearly bow ganking on my sword bar...
Of course the spying isn't the focus...
LOL! So what if you were?
I do it all the time to Permaball groups. Chase me until people get bored and I start picking people off.
The point was totally missed I guess.
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Sygil05✭✭✭This is lame and should result in a ban, but there's really no way to definitively prove they're purposely revealing you. I mean, it seems pretty obvious in the video (regardless of if you were ganking or hiding or whatever), but the other player can just say they were trying to stealth near you or having lag issues.
There's no valid reason for people doing this sort of thing outside of a keep in Cyrodiil. Saying that "maybe they were trying to duel without interruptions" is a really weak excuse, considering they can go anywhere else in Tamriel to do this, and makes me think the defenders of this type of behavior are the ones engaging in it.10 -
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✭✭✭Can't say I have any sympathy when this happens to someone playing a gank or snipe playstyle, I believe karma is the word.
I wouldn't do it to someone out in the open, but if you stealth out in a keep defense I will gladly do my best to bring a swarm of enemies to your hiding spot.
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✭✭At this stage of the game true loyalty to one's faction is a form of roleplay (friends will play with friends regardless of what faction they are in and will at times help their friends make AP at the expense of other players in their own faction). Their really isn't any way to punish this sort of behavior, but what you can do is try to remember the names of players who are clearly enemies despite their choice in faction.
At 11 seconds in the intentions of the revealer was clear and that would've been plenty of time to get back inside the keep while still being hidden. It would've been more clear if you play with nameplates and alliance indicators on at all times even when you're not directly looking at the person.
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- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
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- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
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- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
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- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
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- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
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- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
Eye of the QueenSpoilerhttps://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gif- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
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- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
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- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
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- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭✭✭✭✭Can't say I have any sympathy when this happens to someone playing a gank or snipe playstyle, I believe karma is the word.
I wouldn't do it to someone out in the open, but if you stealth out in a keep defense I will gladly do my best to bring a swarm of enemies to your hiding spot.
So, let me be clear.
I don't care about being killed in PvP.
I do think of me getting caught out as karma. I believe when I inevitably get teabagged that I deserve it.
What's lame is having your own supposedly teammates, your own faction, those who are supposed to work with you, work against you.
You're right to not have sympathy for this playstyle. That's not the argument here. The issue is that what I'm doing is for the alliance I'm working for. I shouldn't have to worry about those supposedly on my side.7
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