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Race should just be cosmetic
Cladius30
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Change racial passives to cosmetic things and any race could play any class. Problem solved.
Edited by Cladius30 on February 6, 2019 11:34AM 38
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White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What and have everything the same and boring No thanks, I like that there is a varied range in the game1 -
Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've mained Nords since release and i'll continue to do so after the patch.
Just because of looks. :PPC EU13 -
OolongSnakeTea✭✭✭✭If race becomes cosmetic, it's just one layer of the RPG-choice system you take away.
Just because it doesn't fit a meta, doesn't mean it's less fun to play. It just has restrictions on realistic content (IE: Imperial magi DPS current patch might have a hard time in a competitive trial, but hey it could happen!)"I try to create sympathy for my characters, then turn the monsters loose."– Stephen King7 -
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Then carry on doing what you do and have fun. Leave the people who care about it all to stress and rant, if it isn't this change causing wide debate and rage it would just be another.I play a race based on looks. I don't even care what the racial are@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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mxxo✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »What and have everything the same and boring No thanks, I like that there is a varied range in the game
Where is the variation if 80% of Magicka Players are changing to Breton now?Edited by mxxo on February 6, 2019 11:55AM8 -
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True enough, I think some are a bit odd and silly myself.Vulsahdaal wrote: »
Going to need a source for those numbers.White wabbit wrote: »What and have everything the same and boring No thanks, I like that there is a varied range in the game
Where is the variation if 80% of Magicka Players are changing to Breton now?
Edited by Turelus on February 6, 2019 11:57AM@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Lol. This isnt the real world, races are much more distinct in the Elder Scrolls.4 -
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Go and tell that Telvanni that the Argonian slave he whips is an equal to him.11 -
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✭✭White wabbit wrote: »What and have everything the same and boring No thanks, I like that there is a varied range in the game
Where is the variation if 80% of Magicka Players are changing to Breton now?
You speak for that 80% do you , just love when people say that a large percentage will change No one knows what they will do0 -
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However we're talking about actual different races, not just ethnicities. Whilst some of the bonuses are stereotyped based on a races culture, others are actual physical differences based on their physiology.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree with OP. Each type of character (like stamblade or magsorc for example) tend to cluster around one or two races and though the races may change, the result will not change the lack of current variety. My wood elven wizards are rare - and racials are the reason.
I think racial choice should have exactly the combat impact that gender choice has. There are tons of other ways to influence combat effectiveness.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo4 -
Demion✭✭✭No thanks, I don't want the flavour removed because those who chase min/max meta are not happy with changes.
agreed, while I have said the same before that racial passives should be less game mechanics, its only min/maxers that have an issue with it@darksenechal - EU PC - Demion Samenel - Templar "The Reluctant Hero of Tamriel"1 -
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✭✭Males and Females both have distinct physical differences in real life. For example, a male pro-boxer would beat a female pro-boxer to a pulp with ease.Edited by Facefister on February 6, 2019 12:19PM1 -
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Why is there all the time that hate towards Min Maxers? What is wrong about choosing the right passives for your playstyle? Isnt that actually the sense of passives? A lot of my Chars are "Fun Chars", i am not the typical Min Maxer, but i see nothing wrong in it, its even encouraged by the game.. So by arguing against the sense of passives you want to keep them? Makes so sense, sry.Edited by mxxo on February 6, 2019 12:25PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭Shezzarrine wrote: »
Lol. This isnt the real world, races are much more distinct in the Elder Scrolls.
Exactly, TES/Nirn races are more species and sub species than RL races, e.g. a cat is not a different race (read ethnicity) to a lizard -- what they are is a separate species that underwent a different evolutionary process resulting in different physiology, and biology.
TES races are like that.Edited by mairwen85 on February 6, 2019 12:23PM0 -
mxxo✭✭✭✭Shezzarrine wrote: »
Lol. This isnt the real world, races are much more distinct in the Elder Scrolls.
Exactly, TES/Nirn races are more species and sub species than RL races, e.g. a cat is not a different race (read ethnicity) to a lizard -- what they are is a separate species that underwent a different evolutionary process resulting in different physiology, and biology.
TES races are like that.
Still they all got Mages and Fighters which are often very equal. I think Race in ESO is rather meant symbolic for their way to live.0 -
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✭Change racial passives to cosmetic things and any race could play any class. Problem solved.
Any race can already play any class *shrugs*PC-EUDo'Zahra - Khajiit - StamDK - AD
Narese Telvanni - Dunmer - Petsorc - EP
Anastasie Chastain - Breton - Magplar - DC
Gashnakh the Lusty - Orc - Stamsorc - AD
Stands-In-Stoopid - Argonian - Warden Tank - AD
Talia al-Morwha - Redguard - Stamden - AD
Makes-Fier-Wrong - Argonian - Stamblade - AD
Busty-Argonian-Maid - Argonian - Templar Healer - AD
Alaru Telvanni - Dunmer - Stamplar - AD
Ko'Raehsi - Khajiit - Magsorc - AD
Torhild Rock-Chucker - Nord - StamDK - AD
Drusilla Larouche - Breton - MagDK - AD
Ko'Khanni - Khajiit - Magden - AD
Ilithyia Ectorius - Imperial - DK Tank -AD
Rosara Laumont - Breton - Warden Healer - AD
Do'Darri - Khajiit - Stam Arcanist - AD
Llerusa Redoran - Dunmer - Stam Arcanist - AD
Terannil - High Elf - Magsorc - AD
Sharuk the Indomitable - Orc - Necro - AD
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There is nothing wrong with being a min/maxer. However part of choosing that style of play should be the acceptance that as changes happen you'll need to adapt to them in some form.
Why is there all the time that hate towards Min Maxers? What is wrong about choosing the right passives for your playstyle? Isnt that actually the sense of passives? A lot of my Chars are "Fun Chars", i am not the typical Min Maxer, but i see nothing wrong in it, its even encouraged by the game.. So by arguing against the sense of passives you want to keep them? Makes so sense, sry.
You can't choose the best then be mad every time the best is changed. I don't think it's all min/max players which have this mindset but sadly there is a very vocal number who get mad and rant on the forums every time their min/max build is altered.
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✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »
My Bosmer whistles innocently and walks away. . . .PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo5 -
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✭This race change foolishness is pointless imo. Casual players are just that casual; they'll continue to play what they like and have fun without ever competing at the highest level. The endgame community will just swap to whatever is most efficient in the next patch. Nothing changes. I'd much rather see bug fixes. But hey, fixes and performance improvements don't generate money.Edited by TheGreatBlackBear on February 6, 2019 12:37PM3 -
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✭White wabbit wrote: »What and have everything the same and boring No thanks, I like that there is a varied range in the game
Where is the variation if 80% of Magicka Players are changing to Breton now?
Actually a lot are changing to khajit for the crit and many will play high elf. Just depends on your build. Breton is a great option to0 -
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✭✭✭✭Shezzarrine wrote: »
Lol. This isnt the real world, races are much more distinct in the Elder Scrolls.
Exactly, TES/Nirn races are more species and sub species than RL races, e.g. a cat is not a different race (read ethnicity) to a lizard -- what they are is a separate species that underwent a different evolutionary process resulting in different physiology, and biology.
TES races are like that.
Still they all got Mages and Fighters which are often very equal. I think Race in ESO is rather meant symbolic for their way to live.
Well... uhm... let's think about this. Just taking Kajiit as an example (not picking on them, but they're just the easiest for this discussion).
I would expect Kajiit (with their skeletal and muscular structure) to be naturally more athletic than the humanoid races, more agile, mobile, and dexterous -- so would think logically that racial passives represent this. This would be an inescapable part of their physiology. That doesn't mean they can't be mages -- but that there is no 'racial' attuned influence. I'm not saying there shouldn't be, not arguing that there will be after U21; I'm just saying that there is no racial/evolutionary source for that.
However, it's nice to see them get some magicka love
And, let's be honest, where has there ever been an evolutionary tract that defines a magical affinity?!? I think just the point we're discussing talking cats already indicates how absurd this conversation (and upset) can get. Edited by mairwen85 on February 6, 2019 12:42PM0
