No Necromancer Class for Elsweyr!

LeHarrt91

starkerealm wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Where are you guys getting this info from?

Everyone's been assuming that, "store_necromancy_collectable.dds" must be a necromancer class, because there's nothing in the crown store other than classes.. even though the medallion is formatted like a DLC.

Also Alcast who is a class rep mentioned Necro Class/ Skill line

MasterSpatula

it's a bit late at this point, I'm afraid.

bearbelly

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

With Morrowind they released the Warden... which is ice themed... on a Volcanic Island. It totally makes sense.

I don't accept "because they made inconsistent errors before, it's okay now".

Wardens were tied in with the far less popular choice of making the entire animal companion tree specific to one region, a region where Wardens wouldn't be popular anyway.

Yup. It totally sucks that you're confined to playing in Vvardenfell when you choose to create a Warden character.
Totally.

McMasterx

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

*snipped*
Reason One: Necromancers have NO place with the Knahaten Flu!

The Knahaten Flu was a disease with an very high mortality rate, and notable supposedly caused several races to go extinct and devastate the population of Tamriel, most notably the Khajiit. Technically the Flu is still supposed to have approximately 15 years left before the disease is not longer found but in ESO's time line it is presumed that the disease is no longer a threat. The only mention of the Flu so far in the game is by visiting the past with Shazah in Reaper's March during one of the final quests in the zone.
*snipped*
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There's actually more mention of the Flu than that quest. In a relatively unimportant quest in Shadowfen. Which is optional in completing the Pact's main objective in the Zone.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Into_the_Temple

It's discovered the Flu may have been created by the Ayleids to kill off the Kothringi

Vapirko

ZOS doesn’t care, they’ll work it in because money.

WhitePawPrints

bearbelly wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

With Morrowind they released the Warden... which is ice themed... on a Volcanic Island. It totally makes sense.

I don't accept "because they made inconsistent errors before, it's okay now".

Wardens were tied in with the far less popular choice of making the entire animal companion tree specific to one region, a region where Wardens wouldn't be popular anyway.

Yup. It totally sucks that you're confined to playing in Vvardenfell when you choose to create a Warden character.
Totally.

Massive wooooossssshhh!

McMasterx wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

*snipped*
Reason One: Necromancers have NO place with the Knahaten Flu!

The Knahaten Flu was a disease with an very high mortality rate, and notable supposedly caused several races to go extinct and devastate the population of Tamriel, most notably the Khajiit. Technically the Flu is still supposed to have approximately 15 years left before the disease is not longer found but in ESO's time line it is presumed that the disease is no longer a threat. The only mention of the Flu so far in the game is by visiting the past with Shazah in Reaper's March during one of the final quests in the zone.
*snipped*
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There's actually more mention of the Flu than that quest. In a relatively unimportant quest in Shadowfen. Which is optional in completing the Pact's main objective in the Zone.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Into_the_Temple

It's discovered the Flu may have been created by the Ayleids to kill off the Kothringi

Read further.

dcam86b14_ESO

IDC really, just give me more content.

Diminish

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Disclaimer: I know this opinion is unpopular and I know that this has been the most requested class in the game since launch, even over the Warden which was datamined before the game was launched.

However, I must STRONGLY disagree with the notion of tying the Necromancer Class in with Elsweyr.

Reason One: Necromancers have NO place with the Knahaten Flu!

The Knahaten Flu was a disease with an very high mortality rate, and notable supposedly caused several races to go extinct and devastate the population of Tamriel, most notably the Khajiit. Technically the Flu is still supposed to have approximately 15 years left before the disease is not longer found but in ESO's time line it is presumed that the disease is no longer a threat. The only mention of the Flu so far in the game is by visiting the past with Shazah in Reaper's March during one of the final quests in the zone.

It is suspected that the Elsweyr DLC's main quest line will be dealing with the aftermath of this plague. With a disease so devastating, second only to the Thrassian Plague, Necromancers looking to reap from all the death would most definitely be seen with extreme prejudices, even more so than usual. So I wonder how a Necromancer player is supposed to go through Elsweyr, supposedly helping with a plague so fresh in the survivors' minds.

Reason Two: Warrior Monks are common among Khajiit!

The Monk class is the second most requested class I have seen among the ESO community, along with the most requested Skill Tree of Unarmed. Warrior Monks have already been in previous games. But the biggest reason for this is simply that the Khajiit culture heavily supports the monk-class type. One of the most obvious examples of this is in Khenarthi's Roost, where several monks are being trained:



If we are going to add a class, then let it be added with content that ties in!

Reason Three: Necromancers had their chance!

Manimmarco, the most powerful Necromancer in all of Tamriel history, already caused chaos with his Worm Cult. The Worm Cult was defeated, and Manimmarco is bound in Coldharbour (unless you freed him... for some reason). He won't be heard from again in 800 years! A Necromancer class would have fit well earlier on in the game.

Reason Four: Nothing Ties In!

Necromancers make sense, we already have lots of necromancer NPC's, necromancer questlines, and loads of necromancer support. Dragons do not, and it is extremely risky added them into ESO. Titans were their substitute and Titans are sufficient. However, Dragons, Necromancers and Elsweyr make no sense! There is so much rich lore with Elsweyr, the Two Moons, Lorkhaj/Lorkan, and a culture we have not yet seen in an Elder Scrolls game that we should not need to throw in Dragons and Necromancers to fluff it.

If all that was datamined is all being thrown in one package, then I'm just going to assume ZoS is throwing everything in that was requested with no regard to the content. Not that we should be surprised, ZoS has continuously thrown out pretty things with no substance, just to try to increase sales.

The Warrior Monk class would make the PERFECT choice for the Elsewyr DLC. The Necromancer, as I've seen already requested, can be permitted to a skill tree.. or wait until 2020's DLC where it can be tied in a bit better with a theme that really says "necromancer" and "undead".

I mean it kind of ties in with the direction of the game; DEAD. Just ask many of your forum going peers!

Viscous119

Whelp, I know this day would come. That's why I made a Magicka Nightblade named 'Akasha the Risen' and is ready and willing to embrace the Necromancy skills HAhahahAHAHA..DIE fools!

NyassaV

I'd be down for a Necromancy skill set but I really don't want yet another class of character. If not because of balance reasons then simply because WE DON'T HAVE GLOBAL ACHIEVEMENTS

LeHarrt91

NyassaV wrote: »

I'd be down for a Necromancy skill set but I really don't want yet another class of character. If not because of balance reasons then simply because WE DON'T HAVE GLOBAL ACHIEVEMENTS

I always had thought i wouldnt want another class after the Warden, due to achievements and skyshards and lorebooks but i am now at the point where i want something new to do and fill up my time when i am on. and its been nearly 2 years since i started a warden and I feel its time for a new character.

PIEGOD

Watch out we got a loremaster here

ArchMikem

templesus wrote: »

Y’all need to cut it out with all this Lore BS. It has no place in a game this big, especially when it’s an MMORPG. If you want lore go play those single player games.

Excuse you? It has EVERY place in this game. It's an Elder Scrolls game therefore it has Elder Scrolls Lore. Actual fans of the series would expect nothing less than the game to adhere fully to the world setting.

MLGProPlayer

starkerealm wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Where are you guys getting this info from?

Everyone's been assuming that, "store_necromancy_collectable.dds" must be a necromancer class, because there's nothing in the crown store other than classes.. even though the medallion is formatted like a DLC.

Way more than that has been datamined, such as this text:

"Venture to the land of the Khajiit in The Elder Scrolls Online: Elsweyr, our newest chapter, an epic story in an all-new zone. Face dread creatures from the past—Dragons!—and discover the dark skills of a new character class, the Necromancer, as you join with new friends and old enemies to save Elsweyr from war and devastation.

ESO reaches new heights of storytelling with a war against the Dragons that unfolds and builds over four quarterly releases to an unexpected climax."

ParaNostram

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

Elsweyr Zone, Yes
Necromancer Class, Yes
Dragons, NO (Unless they are all 'Undead' due to necromancy)

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

Y’all need to cut it out with all this Lore BS. It has no place in a game this big, especially when it’s an MMORPG. If you want lore go play those single player games.

Yeah, we just need some spaceships and guns in this game too, because who know! The games too big. God, I wish for some good ol' American Flags hanging in my house too. Why not just have some Spore like creatures going around too? Who the *** cares about consistency even?

Apples and oranges, love. Asking for something to be included on ESO that has been in the single player TES game is not the same as asking for things literally outside of the genre. Then, you're probably aware of how absurd your comparison is. You just have your opinion on how things should be and forget anyone to want something different, no matter how well founded their desires may be.

Honestly to even have had to wait to play a necromancer is absurd when Mannimarco is a central figure in the game. It's practically an insult to all of the players who have enjoyed playing as a necromancer in all the single player TES games.

jpo

Monk class please. I've been wanting and waiting for this expansion solely for the Monk class.


How can ZOS not do this?

starkerealm

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Where are you guys getting this info from?

Everyone's been assuming that, "store_necromancy_collectable.dds" must be a necromancer class, because there's nothing in the crown store other than classes.. even though the medallion is formatted like a DLC.

Also Alcast who is a class rep mentioned Necro Class/ Skill line

Alcast is under NDA over anything discussed in the class rep program. Meaning that either he's breaching NDA (unlikely, but it would basically shred his relationship with ZOS on a pretty minor topic), OR necromancy hasn't been discussed with the class reps, and he's speculating based on available information.

Of the two, the latter is far more likely. It doesn't end with his account banned, and a civil suit for breach of contract against him.

Edaphon

starkerealm wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Where are you guys getting this info from?

Everyone's been assuming that, "store_necromancy_collectable.dds" must be a necromancer class, because there's nothing in the crown store other than classes.. even though the medallion is formatted like a DLC.

DLC and class icons look very similar:

HappyLittleTree

The time is nigh!

A_Silverius

I too would like a monk class, I want my very own bootleg Sai Sahan.

MajBludd

I agree, nerf sorcs

ESO_Nightingale

HappyLittleTree wrote: »

The time is nigh!

The planemeld is nigh!

Merlin13KAGL

MajBludd wrote: »

I heard all of necromancer skills deal oblivion damage

Nah, @MajBludd , there are some bleeds and defiles thrown in there too, for balance.

Sanctuary_Reaper

Everyone having kittens about something they nothing about yet lol so funny.

What if its spellcrafting, that seems to of not been mentioned since this datamined stuff came to the fore.

How can it be spellcrafting i hear you shout, well necromancy is conjuration, just think about it.

myskyrim26

People are crazy. For about two years they were whining: why there's no Necromancer class in ESO? We want Necromancer!!!. Now that we will have it, people are whining: no Necromancer! Just crazy.

ankeor

templesus wrote: »

Y’all need to cut it out with all this Lore BS. It has no place in a game this big, especially when it’s an MMORPG. If you want lore go play those single player games.

You know why Elder Scrolls sells?

Because LORE.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Elsonso

starkerealm wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Where are you guys getting this info from?

Everyone's been assuming that, "store_necromancy_collectable.dds" must be a necromancer class, because there's nothing in the crown store other than classes.. even though the medallion is formatted like a DLC.

The use of the term "collectable" in the filename, instead of "upgrade", is somewhat different. However, I admit I have not followed the progression of Psijic and Warden icon files since they were originally datamined. I also have not been in the main datamining thread to see if someone else has mentioned this.

Davor

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

I don't understand who you are directing this thread at. The content has already been created. The datamined text makes it clear as day, you are getting Elswyr with dragons and a necromancy class in June. Nothing will change that, it's far too late in production.

That doesn't mean anything. Anything can be cancelled at a moments notice. Just look at Star Wars Battlefront 2 for example. Three days before launch, no loot boxes. I am sure that was in late production.

Also how much have been cut out in ESO, or The Elder Scrolls game or any video game at the last minute. This is nothing new. Anything can be taken out. Will something be taken out though? Very highly unlikely but my point is, saying it can't happen is just wrong. Happens all the time.

Davor

ankeor wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

Y’all need to cut it out with all this Lore BS. It has no place in a game this big, especially when it’s an MMORPG. If you want lore go play those single player games.

You know why Elder Scrolls sells?

Because LORE.

Nothing less, nothing more.

Proof please.

Ladislao

myskyrim26 wrote: »

People are crazy. For about two years they were whining: why there's no Necromancer class in ESO? We want Necromancer!!!. Now that we will have it, people are whining: no Necromancer! Just crazy.

They are just different groups of people.