They really do hate ice.

mocap

i love ice dd newbs (no i don't). It's when you taunt and BAM...
boss agroing on DD
you taunt again and BAM
boss agroing DD
you taunt again and BAM

ESO_Nightingale

mocap wrote: »

i love ice dd newbs (no i don't). It's when you taunt and BAM...
boss agroing on DD
you taunt again and BAM
boss agroing DD
you taunt again and BAM

this is why we dont take Tri-Focus XD. GG zos!

paulsimonps

Unit117 wrote: »

Volckodav wrote: »

really agree, and as I am a fan of iceden the really must do A ICE DAMAGE MORPH FOR BIRDS!!!
with that I can really build some serious ice builds

Frozen gate should be straight up removed and replaced with something better. It has so many drawbacks making it god awful

How about no, don't touch my frozen gate, great fricking tanking tool in PvE and PvP. Change something else if you want ice damage.

TheDarkShadow

As I love playing cc roles in other game, I like warden forst tank for the cc abilities: slow, root, pull, possition... the problem is the meta right now for tank is not cc, it's buff and debuff.

For dps, it's hard to buff forst mage in pve without make them OP in pvp, because of there cc ability. They can prema slow you, root you most of the time, and stun you a lots. If that pair with high damage, there gonna be lots of salt so they must be very careful.

Some ideas:

For ice tank:

Add some debuff to warden Impale Shard to rival DK Engulfing Flame. If EF buff fire damage by 9% then warden skill should increase all type of damage monster taken by 4%.
Remove taunt on frost staff heavy attack, instead add taunt to frost reach (taunt and root).
Ice heavy attack increase more magicka. Blocking with ice staff cost magicka, and give a damage shield about 25% HP while blocking. The shield charge up to full strenght every 5s.

For dps:
Change Winterborn set, add more duration and make it deal more damage the longer the target stay in the ice pillar radius. The radius is only 3m. In pvp you can easily get out of it but it will help pve dps a lots. The damage should be on par with damage from raw stats sets (spell damage or spell crit sets like Burning spell weave, siroria, spell strategist or mother sorrow). Pls also consider fire staff deal more damage single target and minor slayer.

New monster set: drop a huge snow ball/ice shard on the enemy and spawn ice spike under them deal initial damage to 1 target and AoE damage over time, similar to Valkyn Skoria. Proc on ice damage.

New set: when you deal crittical frost damage on a target that is chilled, you reduce their resistance by x and increase your magicka recovery and crit chance by y for z seconds (the resist debuff cannot stack with other people wearing the same set, and should not be the same with minor/major breach/fracture).

josiahva

Unit117 wrote: »

So previously I made a post talking about how zeni hates ice, they ignore us and rarely do anything for us. What do I mean?

It always has to be the most difficult to get and least options compared to fire and lighting and poison also gets more love.

Only 3 ice sets that are terrible with winterborn bind on pickup with one of he worst grinds in game.

One monster set that underperforms

Last element to get a class. warden

Butchered into a dps/tank split then they just abandoned it never going back to give it a clear path making ice as a whole underperforming. Ice staff is also a mess

There’s a serious lack of ice related content compared to fire lightning and poison.

Last element to get a arms pack


No frost Atronach crowncrates and anything we do get that’s ice related is always the more expensive... look at this frost mount and the ice pet. With only other ever being the ice wraith pet from a program they abandoned and never gave us a new way to earn it or something similar to it.

It just keeps going and going. I should be excited to see a chance to get more ice stuff but no. Instead of pricing them like everything else you up the price for them. What the hell...

I have no problem with the Ice staff, it was a great addition to the tank toolkit.

_Ahala_

Best solution would be to tone down the snare and root capabilities of the ice staff and rework it into a magicka critical damage focused dps weapon and then to make a new weapon, alteration staff, in order to establish a new lore friendly magicka tanking weapon for pve magicka tanks and pvp mages who are sick of running resto staves...

side note: winters embrace dps options would also be highly appreciated as magden feels severely limited in its offensive options currently

NoMoreChillies

which does ZOS hate more?

Ice magic

or

OC players

Ladislao

ZOS hates ice because instead of making a reskin of another element, they made something unique.

paulsimonps

Ladislao wrote: »

ZOS hates ice because instead of making a reskin of another element, they made something unique.

Unique=/=good. It could have been, and I don't think anyone is asking for Ice to be a reskin of Fire or Shock but what it currently is used for is laughable.