Earthgore Discussion

Haashhtaag

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

drkfrontiers

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Haashhtaag

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Bogdan is more healing than earthgore in the course of boss fights. If you need earthgore as a healer are you really doing that great of a job healing?

drkfrontiers

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Bogdan is more healing than earthgore in the course of boss fights. If you need earthgore as a healer are you really doing that great of a job healing?

Do you know me? Have you played with me? So lets try and stop making assumptions alright. Do I need earthgore as a healer? No I do not. Its situational and yes I find that it does help during certain VHM content depending on whom I play with.

If my team is above par I switch out my healer to a more dmg orientated build using Skoria or Zaan.

If my team is particularly squishy I use Earthgore.

Now let me ask you a ? - Is your cripe with the set PvE related or PvP? I cannot imagine how someone would have a problem with a healer set in a PvE setting. So there's this? If you cannot mitigate earthgore in PvP by simply moving, you really doing that great of a job of PvP?

TequilaFire

I would say you wouldn't be doing a good job at healer if you weren't using every tool at you disposal.

Facefister

PvP is a joke and should be treated as such
"muh playerbase"
Take out caltrops farmers, geode farmers and people who only bought the base game then you'll end up with an handful people circlej***ing.
"muh every encounter is a different one! nothing is scripted!"
If you play pvp long enough, then you'll see a pattern on every player you'll encounter. A DK will not magically play something entirely different, he/she will follow a pattern. PvP is as cookie cutter as your PvE.

Haashhtaag

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Bogdan is more healing than earthgore in the course of boss fights. If you need earthgore as a healer are you really doing that great of a job healing?

Do you know me? Have you played with me? So lets try and stop making assumptions alright. Do I need earthgore as a healer? No I do not. Its situational and yes I find that it does help during certain VHM content depending on whom I play with.

If my team is above par I switch out my healer to a more dmg orientated build using Skoria or Zaan.

If my team is particularly squishy I use Earthgore.

Now let me ask you a ? - Is your cripe with the set PvE related or PvP? I cannot imagine how someone would have a problem with a healer set in a PvE setting. So there's this? If you cannot mitigate earthgore in PvP by simply moving, you really doing that great of a job of PvP?

My gripe is with both and I feel it makes pve healers even more useless than they already are because what we do is throw earthgore on our tank and complete vBRP, vDSA, and vet dungeons with 3 dps. I want healers to be more wanted if we’re being honest but because this set exist we can do without them.


I’m the trials I run none of the healers wear earthgore at all and it’s kind of a meme set of a new healer comes in wearing it.


In PvP it carries even harder than PvE imo. And you see my suggestions for what the set should do.

drkfrontiers

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Bogdan is more healing than earthgore in the course of boss fights. If you need earthgore as a healer are you really doing that great of a job healing?

Do you know me? Have you played with me? So lets try and stop making assumptions alright. Do I need earthgore as a healer? No I do not. Its situational and yes I find that it does help during certain VHM content depending on whom I play with.

If my team is above par I switch out my healer to a more dmg orientated build using Skoria or Zaan.

If my team is particularly squishy I use Earthgore.

Now let me ask you a ? - Is your cripe with the set PvE related or PvP? I cannot imagine how someone would have a problem with a healer set in a PvE setting. So there's this? If you cannot mitigate earthgore in PvP by simply moving, you really doing that great of a job of PvP?

My gripe is with both and I feel it makes pve healers even more useless than they already are because what we do is throw earthgore on our tank and complete vBRP, vDSA, and vet dungeons with 3 dps. I want healers to be more wanted if we’re being honest but because this set exist we can do without them.


I’m the trials I run none of the healers wear earthgore at all and it’s kind of a meme set of a new healer comes in wearing it.


In PvP it carries even harder than PvE imo. And you see my suggestions for what the set should do.

Thats strange. Its not my experience at all. I've seen 95% of the most competent healers I've played with using this meme set..

Osteos

I think the set is fine. It's a great emergency heal with a long cool down.

NyassaV

Mureel wrote: »

My suggestion is to stop trying to nerf PvE sets for PVP. Kthx.

Wait earthgore is a PvE set???? You need earthgore to carry you in PvE as well as PvP? Damn, then we really gotta nerf it then

Haashhtaag

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I would like to know if this overperformkng set will be adjusted. In discord someone brought up an interesting point in being that if this set was damage done instead of healing it would have likely been nerfed into the ground. It’s interesting how people defend an OP healing set but won’t defend OP damage sets the same.

Because in DLC VHM dungeons/Trials HEALING is a MAJOR factor to completion. While damage can be played around you CAN NEVER EVER get around the team wiping.

At critical moments in the above I have people send me 100k gifts because of my burst heal ability. Please don't ruin the one small pleasure healers have in this game, I beg you. (Its not exactly like there is a plethora of healer AoE masks out there.)

Bogdan is more healing than earthgore in the course of boss fights. If you need earthgore as a healer are you really doing that great of a job healing?

Do you know me? Have you played with me? So lets try and stop making assumptions alright. Do I need earthgore as a healer? No I do not. Its situational and yes I find that it does help during certain VHM content depending on whom I play with.

If my team is above par I switch out my healer to a more dmg orientated build using Skoria or Zaan.

If my team is particularly squishy I use Earthgore.

Now let me ask you a ? - Is your cripe with the set PvE related or PvP? I cannot imagine how someone would have a problem with a healer set in a PvE setting. So there's this? If you cannot mitigate earthgore in PvP by simply moving, you really doing that great of a job of PvP?

My gripe is with both and I feel it makes pve healers even more useless than they already are because what we do is throw earthgore on our tank and complete vBRP, vDSA, and vet dungeons with 3 dps. I want healers to be more wanted if we’re being honest but because this set exist we can do without them.


I’m the trials I run none of the healers wear earthgore at all and it’s kind of a meme set of a new healer comes in wearing it.


In PvP it carries even harder than PvE imo. And you see my suggestions for what the set should do.

Thats strange. Its not my experience at all. I've seen 95% of the most competent healers I've played with using this meme set..

Interesting because I see all my healers in Bogdan.

max_only

This thread is the salt mine I see.

Mureel wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

My suggestion is to stop trying to nerf PvE sets for PVP. Kthx.

If pve healers want to feel more useful would relying on a set that does the work for you make you useful? No

Your comment only shows that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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StormChaser3000

Earthgore is fine. Nice tool to prevent a wipe when one group member walks in your blindspot and gets a hit in a head. Can't deal with it in PvP, then ask for only PvP changes. Leave PvE alone.

munster1404

Mureel wrote: »

My suggestion is to stop trying to nerf PvE sets for PVP. Kthx.

PvPers already have no CP campaigns to indulge in. They should stop ruining everybody's experience when they have been instrumental in most nerfs and sucking the fun out of being powerful.

Sheezabeast

ZOS badly needs to work on what sets they decide work on players and what work on NPCs. You have sets like Transmutation that are useless in PVE, and Vicious Death only works on players and not NPCs...if people are both tugging at the baby, ZOS gotta cut the baby in half, biblical style. It's why PVPers get blamed for nerfs, and PVEers get so irate with PVP sets that work their way into PVE like Earthgore. It didn't have to be like this if ZOS balanced PVP and PVE separately.

Girl_Number8

Earthgore is more then fine. Maybe learn how to theory craft builds properly and stop using YouTube builds so you have a better understanding of the game and your playstyle. Also, I might add this topic has been discussed before and Earthgore stayed as it has.

Mr_Walker

This thread reminds me why I run naked, just punching monsters. People tell me I'm not being effective, but I say to them "I don't need a crutch LOL get your training wheels off!".

PS has anyone got any hints for beating trash mobs? They're TOUGH!