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Earthgore Discussion
Haashhtaag
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Imo this set is still over powered and provides too much healing. The worst part is it can remove an ultimate ability from the ground such as negate, standard, nova, and etc. Why should a 2 piece set be able to remove an ultimate plus provide godly healing.
My suggestions:
Do not allow it to remove an ultimate ground cast ability.
Make the heal apply to only one person so that way it’s viable in pve still.
Make it so that it cannot proc on someone outside of your group. Meaning if solo it can only proc on you.
Edited by Haashhtaag on December 1, 2018 1:06PM My suggestions:
Do not allow it to remove an ultimate ground cast ability.
Make the heal apply to only one person so that way it’s viable in pve still.
Make it so that it cannot proc on someone outside of your group. Meaning if solo it can only proc on you.
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AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Seems fine if you ask me. It's not that overpowered since it can't remove stuff like the barb from Monstrosities in Cloudrest and can barely keep the poor tank that has that debuff on them alive without the healer actually doing their jobGold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 505 -
drkfrontiers✭✭✭✭✭
✭This have to be a PvP rant. Has to... In vSCP etc you beg for it."One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭drkfrontiers wrote: »This have to be a PvP rant. Has to... In vSCP etc you beg for it.
It wouldn’t be bad if every group didnt have 3-51 -
supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭Nothing wrong with the set, it’s not as if you aim it to negate it just goes to where whoever proc’ed it for you and when it’s a dumb proc you’ve then got another 35 seconds where it’s useless1 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
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I’m pretty sure all my skins and achievements say otherwise. It’s a carry set for casuals.6 -
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✭Haashhtaag wrote: »
Logic fail = You can apply the same logic to almost every set you currently have in the game.
But OF COURSE! I absolutely want to use a set that's pointless. Silly me.Edited by drkfrontiers on December 1, 2018 1:17PM"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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Set is OP and BIS in comparison to other sets, that's clear. In PVE it's a crutch to survive lack of group coordination etc.. in PVP it's cancer.. lol, don't nerf, buff others healer helms make game even easier.4 -
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✭People get bursted through earthgore all the time. It's really not that powerful.PC NA - GreggsSausageRollXbox NA - Olykos66PS NA - Olykos2669 -
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✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »
Set is OP and BIS in comparison to other sets, that's clear. In PVE it's a crutch to survive lack of group coordination etc.. in PVP it's cancer.. lol, don't nerf, buff others healer helms make game even easier.
Not really a crutch when there are debuffs like the barb in Cloudrest that make it necessary.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 502 -
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✭✭I think the only thing that needs to be change is the percentile the effect begins. So instead of at 50% health make it 30% or 20% that way there's a chance of it actually not being an "Ohh shi" sub ultimate while retaining it's effectiveness in PvE (although 20% is pretty low for PvE so probably 30% all around).不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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drkfrontiers✭✭✭✭✭
✭Still wonder why mmos in this day and age cater to an iota of population's wims.
ZOS remove all Monster Helm abilities from Cyrodiil. Problem solved. We do not want any crutches after all. Pvpers are WAAAY better than that .. am I right?
Edited by drkfrontiers on December 1, 2018 1:29PM"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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✭✭✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »
Any healer who relies on Earth Gore to do all their healing is going to have a dead party. So it does not do the work for them.
What it does is provide an effective emergency heal, something that's very useful for healers and makes playing as one a lot more enjoyable. So please, let's not nerf it just because it's getting in the way of you slaughtering others in PvP.
Aren't people dying enough for you as it is? Literally every battleground or Cyrodil I enter has people dropping like flies from every viewpoint. How much death is it going to take before PvPers are satisfied that people are dying fast enough?Edited by Jeremy on December 1, 2018 1:54PM15 -
BoraxFlux✭✭✭✭✭As a healer carrying Earthgore in PvP: it definately does not do all the work for me, wish it would, healing means moving around (avoiding getting targeted) and observing a lot. Earthgore is an emergency heal, at best when the party is grouped closely. (Which by the way counts for most of my spells).
Taking out the healers first in a battle is a solution.
So, if you want to nerf it: place a mark over the healer's head after Earthgore procced:
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✭My suggestion is to stop trying to nerf PvE sets for PVP. Kthx.
Yeah, b/c the set not removing Player Ultimates will hurt PvE so badly ...
And here you are complaining about PvP players asking to change a set that is used in PvE and, thus, might affect PvE gameplay adversely, when the whole reason for the request is that a set dropped in PvE is breaking PvP. Such hypocrisy!
Here it's not PvP ruining PvE, it's the other way around. Let that sink in before you start posting again.3 -
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✭Just move out of the big glowy red circle dripping blood and guess what... players in the circle have to move too.
PvP is not static enough where anyone stands in the same spot for longer than like 1 sec anyway.
From my experience they too busy running zerg circles in towers and circle-jerk around rocks to be honest
"Stand still and fight me!!" is about my most common thought when I am not being snipe attacked by some d... move NB.Edited by drkfrontiers on December 1, 2018 3:43PM"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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✭✭✭✭✭Earthgore does what healers should be able to do which is to forgive mistakes. I mean Healers already have issues let's not take away a set that actually does what it should.4 -
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✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »
I’m pretty sure all my skins and achievements say otherwise. It’s a carry set for casuals.
Seems to me that if you don’t realise how many healers use EG even in end game like VCR; then you know a lot more about being carried than I do; at least about paying for being carried.
If you know jack all about ‘healing’ you know that it’s mainly not at all about healing. Healing is the skate part.
Now off ya go...I understand @shadzilla is offering VCR carries for 8mil. Best start selling ya crowns.
Next!Edited by Mureel on December 1, 2018 4:22PM2 -
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✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »
Set is OP and BIS in comparison to other sets, that's clear. In PVE it's a crutch to survive lack of group coordination etc.. in PVP it's cancer.. lol, don't nerf, buff others healer helms make game even easier.
Not really a crutch when there are debuffs like the barb in Cloudrest that make it necessary.
This! When people buy their runs; I guess they don’t know what’s actually going on.1 -
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✭✭✭drkfrontiers wrote: »Just move out of the big glowy red circle dripping blood and guess what... players in the circle have to move too.
PvP is not static enough where anyone stands in the same spot for longer than like 1 sec anyway.
From my experience they too busy running zerg circles in towers and circle-jerk around rocks to be honest
"Stand still and fight me!!" is about my most common thought when I am not being snipe attacked by some d... move NB.
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✭✭✭✭✭Somehow many of us can still kill people in PvP despite this set.Haashhtaag wrote: »
I’m pretty sure all my skins and achievements say otherwise. It’s a carry set for casuals.
Seems to me that if you don’t realise how many healers use EG even in end game like VCR; then you know a lot more about being carried than I do; at least about paying for being carried.
If you know jack all about ‘healing’ you know that it’s mainly not at all about healing. Healing is the skate part.
Now off ya go...I understand @shadzilla is offering VCR carries for 8mil. Best start selling ya crowns.
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✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »
Set is OP and BIS in comparison to other sets, that's clear. In PVE it's a crutch to survive lack of group coordination etc.. in PVP it's cancer.. lol, don't nerf, buff others healer helms make game even easier.
I don’t see it that way at all. In some raids it has its place- like group healer in VAS, as one example. Other sets have other uses in other raids.
PvPers need to chill.0 -
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✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »Make the heal apply to only one person so that way it’s viable in pve still.
I agree that the healing is a bit much, but I don't agree with this suggestion. It being a AOE is what makes it even remotely usefull in the first place. Reduce the healing by maybe 30% and it's fine.EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)0 -
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✭drkfrontiers wrote: »Still wonder why mmos in this day and age cater to an iota of population's wims.
ZOS remove all Monster Helm abilities from Cyrodiil. Problem solved. We do not want any crutches after all. Pvpers are WAAAY better than that .. am I right?
I actually won't mind this. All proc sets are a crutch, especially Earthgore, Sloads and Skoria.Bosmer Stamina NB
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✭✭✭✭✭I bet you are also one of those people that complains about all those useless trash sets in the game, am i right?
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