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Is there a reason that Dragon Knights are so gamebreakingly overpowered?

Izariel
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I get so frustrated trying to fight dragonknights in pvp. For one, my abilities seem to have no effect on them. None. For two, they can practically heal any damage you deal to them faster than you can deal it. Three, they can drop you from 100-0 in less than 3 seconds.

I am not talking about a Champion level 800 against a brand new player I am talking roughly equal progression. This holds true whether you are sub 50 level or a CL 300 going against a CL 350. It is always the same.

Why have they not been nerfed yet? It is to the point now where 7 of the 10 people i see in pvp are all DK's because they are just so easy to wipe other people with. It is incredibly frustrating.
Edited by ZOS_Lunar on February 10, 2022 1:47PM
  • NoMoreChillies
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    nerf sorcs
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • Izariel
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    nerf sorcs

    The funny thing is....that is probably what the devs thought while reading my post.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    In before all the L2P posts ...
  • Banana
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    :D its not april fools yet. Is it ?
  • AcadianPaladin
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    I'm surprised anyone is alive in Cyrodiil! One day it's NB with snipe. Then it was magsorcs with shields. Now, DK's. . . . Lol.
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Is this an out of season April Fools joke?

    Seriously, l2p. Pro tip: Do not hard cast Frag.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Are you using reflectable abilities while the DK has wings up?

    Or are you just struggling to do burst damage against tanky builds who know how to burst you?

    If you want to complain, complain away, but its hard to take you serious when there are no specifics to your post other than "DKs are too hard for me to kill and they kill me too easily!"
  • max_only
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    You mean you don’t like being fossilized and taloned at the same time?

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/425881/dragonknights-have-been-getting-away-with-it/p1

    If you can’t beat em, join em.

    My new stam dk is like a hot knife through butter
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  • Airyus
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    Hard to take you seriously when you have no credibile justification. You don’t even specify mag or Stam. Do you even know the history of consistent nefrfs and senseless gutting of the dk class? You ever play one and see how “overpowered” they are? GTFOutta here.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Always a whiner asking for nerfs against a class they get rekt by, and before you know it, the whole game is dumbed down.

    Oh wait...

    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
    LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

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  • Sparr0w
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    Is an L2P, DK's have burst potential and tankyness if running S&B. Main issue with them is wings reflecting everything from a magblade, if you can land a stun tho they're done.
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
    Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
    Tank: NB | DK | Warden
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH
    PC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc
    Tank: DK | NB
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS
  • Vapirko
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    Mag or Stam because they are not equal. If you’re talking about Stam then lol, if you’re talking about Mag then they’re one of the best 1v1 classes and can be really tough.
  • Trancestor
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    Git gud
  • idk
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    In before all the L2P posts ...

    LOL The DK kill quest is my second favorite.
    Edited by idk on November 26, 2018 11:32AM
  • cbritomiranda
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    I do not think that. stamina nightblades are also OP if played correctly, in PvE and PvP
    Edited by cbritomiranda on November 26, 2018 11:53AM
    Arielle Pendragon [] High Elf - Sorcerer [DD]
    Ataena Zastee [] Khajiit - Nightblade [DD]
    Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Nightblade [DD]
    Angeline Pendragon [] Breton - Templar [Healer]
    Freyja Stone-Singer [] Nord - Dragonknight [Tanker]
    Raelys the Flame [] High Elf - Dragonknight [Healer]
    Anne-Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Warden [Healer]
    Fairynn Frost-Moon [] Nord - Warden [Tanker]
    Asrin the Wise [] Khajiit - Sorcerer [DD]
  • Gnozo
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    Dks are far from overpowered actually. Just get a good build with sustain and damage. Use unblockable CC, major defile and a good combination of burst/cc/debuff and he is Dead. Same goes for every class but i guess learning the game instead of crying on forums is too much to ask for.....
  • Protossyder
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Is an L2P, DK's have burst potential and tankyness if running S&B. Main issue with them is wings reflecting everything from a magblade, if you can land a stun tho they're done.

    @Sparr0w By "everything" you mean light attacks and bow proc or am I missing something?
    Edited by Protossyder on November 26, 2018 12:12PM
    Characters worth mentioning:
    Daedrós - Magicka DK - Altmer - PvE & PvP - Emperor - IR - GH - TTT
    Dragybor - Stamblade - Redguard - PvE (first char)
    Yondaime Raikage - Stamsorc - Redguard - PvP
    Zerg Overmind - Magblade - Altmer - PvE - GH
    Yenari - Magsorc - Altmer - PvE - Flawless Conqueror
    Devoured-his-siblings - DK Tank - Argonian - PvE - Unchained
    Valkyrja Valhalla - StamDK - Redguard - PvE
    Hyperion der Obere - Magplar - Altmer - PvE
    Affa al'Dschinni - Stamplar - Orc - PvP
    Enjoys-the-slaughter - Templar Healer - Argonian - PvE
    Hades Adamastos - Stamcro - Orc - PvE
    Khaba the Cruel - Magsorc- Altmer - PvP
    Hekate Ourania - Magcro - Atlmer - PvE - TTT
    Arenas: vDSA (~46k) - vMA (~586k)
    Trials: vAA hm - vHRC hm - vSO hm - vMoL hm (~161k) - vHoF hm (~218k) - vAS+2 (~114k) - vCR+3 - vSS hm - vKA hm

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  • mague
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    Izariel wrote: »
    Why have they not been nerfed yet? It is to the point now where 7 of the 10 people i see in pvp are all DK's because they are just so easy to wipe other people with. It is incredibly frustrating.

    Because nerf is not the answer to the problem. Everyone is calling for nerfs and in the end we have boring classes.

    I agree with you. DKs are very solid. Duelling a good DK is a real task. And in Cyrodiil there are full groups of DKs. It is really painful but nerf is wrong.
    Edited by mague on November 26, 2018 12:50PM
  • Sparr0w
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Is an L2P, DK's have burst potential and tankyness if running S&B. Main issue with them is wings reflecting everything from a magblade, if you can land a stun tho they're done.

    @Sparr0w By "everything" you mean light attacks and bow proc or am I missing something?

    @Protossyder And Swallow Soul, and Flame Reach.
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
    Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
    Tank: NB | DK | Warden
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH
    PC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc
    Tank: DK | NB
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS
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    Its the little known secret.. All covered up by the fantastic PR department that DK's have running here

    Again I must congratulate them!

    Minalan owes me a beer.

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    Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • Protossyder
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Is an L2P, DK's have burst potential and tankyness if running S&B. Main issue with them is wings reflecting everything from a magblade, if you can land a stun tho they're done.

    @Sparr0w By "everything" you mean light attacks and bow proc or am I missing something?

    @Protossyder And Swallow Soul, and Flame Reach.

    @Sparr0w Are you sure? Swallow Soul is not a projectile
    Characters worth mentioning:
    Daedrós - Magicka DK - Altmer - PvE & PvP - Emperor - IR - GH - TTT
    Dragybor - Stamblade - Redguard - PvE (first char)
    Yondaime Raikage - Stamsorc - Redguard - PvP
    Zerg Overmind - Magblade - Altmer - PvE - GH
    Yenari - Magsorc - Altmer - PvE - Flawless Conqueror
    Devoured-his-siblings - DK Tank - Argonian - PvE - Unchained
    Valkyrja Valhalla - StamDK - Redguard - PvE
    Hyperion der Obere - Magplar - Altmer - PvE
    Affa al'Dschinni - Stamplar - Orc - PvP
    Enjoys-the-slaughter - Templar Healer - Argonian - PvE
    Hades Adamastos - Stamcro - Orc - PvE
    Khaba the Cruel - Magsorc- Altmer - PvP
    Hekate Ourania - Magcro - Atlmer - PvE - TTT
    Arenas: vDSA (~46k) - vMA (~586k)
    Trials: vAA hm - vHRC hm - vSO hm - vMoL hm (~161k) - vHoF hm (~218k) - vAS+2 (~114k) - vCR+3 - vSS hm - vKA hm

    PC - EU
  • Sparr0w
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Is an L2P, DK's have burst potential and tankyness if running S&B. Main issue with them is wings reflecting everything from a magblade, if you can land a stun tho they're done.

    @Sparr0w By "everything" you mean light attacks and bow proc or am I missing something?

    @Protossyder And Swallow Soul, and Flame Reach.

    @Sparr0w Are you sure? Swallow Soul is not a projectile

    Last I checked it did, pretty sure there was QQ in the forums about it too.

    I just tend to avoid DK's now, unless they attack me then I turtle until ult is ready or they drop wings.
    Edited by Sparr0w on November 26, 2018 2:01PM
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
    Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
    Tank: NB | DK | Warden
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH
    PC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc
    Tank: DK | NB
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS
  • pzschrek
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    I have the same issue on sorc except I can usually survive so it’s more of a stalemate.

    You can build to fight them on magsorc but not on my preferred bar setup, so they’re my least favorite class to run into.

    I just I keep curse up and use resto LAs to keep wings down and wait for allies. Then spam resto LAs and ccs and negate them once they get under pressure. I slit negate even solo yolo because there are so many out there.
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  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Here we go again.
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    What is it, 2015?
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  • Biro123
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    pzschrek wrote: »
    I have the same issue on sorc except I can usually survive so it’s more of a stalemate.

    You can build to fight them on magsorc but not on my preferred bar setup, so they’re my least favorite class to run into.

    I just I keep curse up and use resto LAs to keep wings down and wait for allies. Then spam resto LAs and ccs and negate them once they get under pressure. I slit negate even solo yolo because there are so many out there.

    That's about it, to be fair..

    Wait for allies, or leave...
    Minalan owes me a beer.

    PC EU Megaserver
    Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • lucky_Sage
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    @Izariel
    magdk or stamdk?
    what class are you,stam or mag?
    dks are far from over preforming stamdks worst stam class yes they are tanky but every other stam class is better
    magdk are far from over preforming they can be tanky but then they will have worst dmg if they have high dmg they can easily get 2 shot if they F-up one time unlike all other mag classes. yeah wings can hurt if your a pure range build but against more than one player they are sub-par compared to most other defenses and cost a lot of mag, and every class has atleast 2 abilities that cant be reflected . they also have worst sustain than all mag classes highest and highest avg cost to abilities.
    no dk can sustain wings for extened period of time with ooming.

    this is 100% L2P issue
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    Magdk - main
    Stamcro - alt

    AD PS4 NA -retired (PC runs way better to play on console)
    magdk
    magblade
    stamplar
    magden
    magsorc

  • KingLogix
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    Airyus wrote: »
    Hard to take you seriously when you have no credibile justification. You don’t even specify mag or Stam. Do you even know the history of consistent nefrfs and senseless gutting of the dk class? You ever play one and see how “overpowered” they are? GTFOutta here.
    Izariel wrote: »
    I get so frustrated trying to fight dragonknights in pvp. For one, my abilities seem to have no effect on them. None. For two, they can practically heal any damage you deal to them faster than you can deal it. Three, they can drop you from 100-0 in less than 3 seconds.

    I am not talking about a Champion level 800 against a brand new player I am talking roughly equal progression. This holds true whether you are sub 50 level or a CL 300 going against a CL 350. It is always the same.

    Why have they not been nerfed yet? It is to the point now where 7 of the 10 people i see in pvp are all DK's because they are just so easy to wipe other people with. It is incredibly frustrating.

    Zos probably reading this trying to figure out a way to nerf the class more... They seriously need to create in game poll to help target more good people that are without an invitation code or that just don't t use the forums. Cant blame ZOS when the people on here saying dks are OP =.=
    Edited by KingLogix on November 26, 2018 4:14PM
  • TrinityBreaker
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    Why do people want to nerf a constantly-nerfed class?

    Hi friend! There can only be one!

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    Khajiit Stam Sorc - Ji'saad Ranajiradh AR 30
    Khajiit Mag DK - Kesjhad
    Khajiit Magblade - Ji'sava Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamplar - Dro'haniAk'nir - AR 36
    Khajiit Stam Dk - Diego Ri'jhad - AR 49
    Khajiit Magplar - Dro'nara Ak'nir
    Khajiit StamBlade - Ri'artharr Ak'nir
    Fat Khajiit Stamden - Dro'hani Warbreaker
    Argonian Stam DK - Tiberius Demetros
    Khajiit Stamplar - Diëgo Ri'jhad
    Fat Khajiit Stam DK - Drö'hani Ak'nir/Dances-With-Alkosh
    Khajiit Magden - Arctic Mayhem


  • iCaliban
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    If you are a sorc struggling with DK, use a different ultimate. Storm atro is a strong counter to magDks in battlegrounds/no cp. They have to be in close range to hurt you, and storm atro drops a lot of pressure. Keep curse up, use streak, time their wings and then burst.
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