The State of ESO - video critique

  • Haashhtaag
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    kathandira wrote: »
    ZOS Should just remove PVP. Most the complaints I read are about balance in PvP, and performance in PvP.

    PvP has failed, just give it up and focus on PvE content.

    Why don't you just go played modded Skyrim? Roughly half of the video was talk about how ZOS has failed at PVE yet you want to only criticize PvP?
    Edited by Haashhtaag on December 5, 2018 10:23PM
  • MakoFore
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    don't disagree with anything the video or sypher says. its a shame because as a combat system- eso is great. but the decisions they've made regarding balance- and the performance of the servers- have spoilt what was once such a promising game for pvp
  • IronWooshu
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    Hey, some advice on your next video. This one sounds like you are reading off a piece of paper and your points don't come off as convincing and kind of monotone. You need passion and to speak with your heart, use paper for topic points to guide you rather than typing an essay and reading it and speak whats on your mind in your own way as you would if you were talking to us face to face and not over a podium.

    Many Youtubers do this and they just edit out the bad parts and piece together the good takes and it works perfectly fine.
  • CrimsonGTX
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    This video was REALLY well done and hit all the points from both sides of the game.

    kathandira wrote: »
    ZOS Should just remove PVP. Most the complaints I read are about balance in PvP, and performance in PvP.

    PvP has failed, just give it up and focus on PvE content.

    Did you watch the whole video? It was about both PvP and PvE, I don't know why you're singling out PvP.
    Sorc & Warden Main - PC NA(CP 1k+) & Xbox NA (CP 1k+)
  • SanderBuraas
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    I saw the whole video, and I agree with everything. I've been playing this game on and off for a long time, only because it has so much potential.

    It just seems like Zenimax doesn't care about the game.
  • jcm2606
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can you guys like get the entire combat and content teams in a single room and play this video out loud?
  • miteba
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    Mister_DMC wrote: »
    ...have decided ESO is no longer worth my money. This comes from a 4 year player...

    Likewise, i dont sub it for a couple of months now!
    Just roam the forum to mantain the buzz and comment here and there, trying always to opine with a positive attitude and wait for something better again...
    Right now i just login for Indrik events basically 😫

    The ESO is still an trully awesome MMO but for new players IMO. They changed the DNA of the game in ways that many (not major) veterans dont identify with...right now! Or maybe its a 4 years burnout
    Edited by miteba on December 8, 2018 12:49PM
  • Edziu
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    miteba wrote: »
    Mister_DMC wrote: »
    ...have decided ESO is no longer worth my money. This comes from a 4 year player...

    Likewise, i dont sub it for a couple of months now!
    Just roam the forum to mantain the buzz and comment here and there, trying always to opine with a positive attitude and wait for something better again...
    Right now i just login for Indrik events basically 😫

    The ESO is still an trully awesome MMO but for new players IMO. They changed the DNA of the game in ways that many (not major) veterans dont identify with...right now! Or maybe its a 4 years burnout

    for me as someone who played since beta..for me this isnt burn out

    when I had burn out I had break from eso for 1-3 weeks
    and then after huge morrowind changes I had break for over half of year becaus eI really disliked changes
    same I had after summerset
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Great video, wish they would start listening to the community.

    So which part of the community?

    The part that wants nothing but a full loot PVP game?

    The twenty factions that all want something different for <insert pet class here >?

    The Part of the community that actually wants the real world information of people they deem as whales?

    How about the really "intelligent" part of the community I dealt with last night who wants a racial purity test before you're allowed to play ESO?

    The "community" is full of scum buckets, douchenozzles, and nut bars.....I wouldn't trust them with a pet goldfish, much less to make any type of decision on a major MMO.

    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on December 8, 2018 3:51PM
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  • Akagami94
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    kathandira wrote: »
    ZOS Should just remove PVP. Most the complaints I read are about balance in PvP, and performance in PvP.

    PvP has failed, just give it up and focus on PvE content.

    That would be a bad idea..
  • Sanctum74
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Great video, wish they would start listening to the community.

    So which part of the community?

    The part that wants nothing but a full loot PVP game?

    The twenty factions that all want something different for <insert pet class here >?

    The Part of the community that actually wants the real world information of people they deem as whales?

    How about the really "intelligent" part of the community I dealt with last night who wants a racial purity test before you're allowed to play ESO?

    The "community" is full of scum buckets, douchenozzles, and nut bars.....I wouldn't trust them with a pet goldfish, much less to make any type of decision on a major MMO.

    How about the part of the community that just wants the game to actually work. All the things you mentioned are subjective, but it would be nice if they made a bigger effort to fix what has been broke and well documented in some cases for years.

    I don't think it's too much to ask for skills, ults, and potions to work.

    To be able to break free and get cc immunity.

    To not get a random 2 minute blue or load screen in the middle of combat.

    To be able to call one of the many mounts I've spent hundreds of dollars on and not have to wait 15 minutes for the stuck in combat bug to end.

    To not have invisible players or animations.

    To not have my resources randomly drain when I'm not even using any skills.

    To not have health desyncs and die from skills that didn't show up until after I've already been laying dead on the ground for 6 seconds.

    Those are just a few things to mention, but I guess I'm just a scum bucket nut bar that expects too much. :D

  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »


    I don't think it's too much to ask for skills, ults, and potions to work.

    Mine work fine.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To be able to break free and get cc immunity.

    I can break free when I need to, sometimes even if you do successfully break free it doesn't guarantee CC immunity , like every other TES game.

    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not get a random 2 minute blue or load screen in the middle of combat.

    Talked to my guild on this one, not one person in it has experienced this...let me guess, Console player?
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To be able to call one of the many mounts I've spent hundreds of dollars on and not have to wait 15 minutes for the stuck in combat bug to end.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have invisible players or animations.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have my resources randomly drain when I'm not even using any skills.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have health desyncs and die from skills that didn't show up until after I've already been laying dead on the ground for 6 seconds.

    Never experienced that, sounds like you have some connection issue...you might want to reconsider playing wireless if you are.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »

    Those are just a few things to mention, but I guess I'm just a scum bucket nut bar that expects too much. :D

    Nope you are just typical to the forums especially if my hunch is right and you're a console player, if not I'm betting you have router issues.....because most of the things you described can be chalked up to offload dysync isues.

    Oh and before you chalk me up as a white knight...you should really check my post history.



    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on December 8, 2018 6:51PM
    "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

    ― Robert E. Howard


    So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.
  • Sanctum74
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »


    I don't think it's too much to ask for skills, ults, and potions to work.

    Mine work fine.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To be able to break free and get cc immunity.

    I can break free when I need to, sometimes even if you do successfully break free it doesn't guarantee CC immunity , like every other TES game.

    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not get a random 2 minute blue or load screen in the middle of combat.

    Talked to my guild on this one, not one person in it has experienced this...let me guess, Console player?
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To be able to call one of the many mounts I've spent hundreds of dollars on and not have to wait 15 minutes for the stuck in combat bug to end.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have invisible players or animations.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have my resources randomly drain when I'm not even using any skills.

    Not one MMO is free of this.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    To not have health desyncs and die from skills that didn't show up until after I've already been laying dead on the ground for 6 seconds.

    Never experienced that, sounds like you have some connection issue...you might want to reconsider playing wireless if you are.
    Sanctum74 wrote: »

    Those are just a few things to mention, but I guess I'm just a scum bucket nut bar that expects too much. :D

    Nope you are just typical to the forums especially if my hunch is right and you're a console player, if not I'm betting you have router issues.....because most of the things you described can be chalked up to offload dysync isues.

    Oh and before you chalk me up as a white knight...you should really check my post history.



    You must be either new to the forums, new to the game, don't play any end game content, or just trolling because all of these problems have been very well documented through the years.

    Doesn't matter if I play console or not, because most of these problems were introduced in patches, but fan boys will always try to say it's a connection issue or some other nonsense.

    Ummm ok, my internet just decides to go bad on the same exact day every 3 months when a patch is released. Great logic! :D


  • miteba
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    @Sanctum74 @Rain_Greyraven Neither these issues in the game occur so frequent neither they are so rare.
    Fact is that many people talk/post about them in the forum, for quite some time in some cases, and not everyone are Trolls or crybabies...lots of people just want things to be fixed.

    In my case, what upsets me was the gradual lost of identity of all the classes, aka homogeneity!
    Change is good and needed in online games, for several reasons, but there is no compass, no course, no orientation in Devs choices of class balance...
    Its a freakin mess, nobody knows what the hell is coming next! What about the rep's program? What for if they dont follow what the "community" asks? Not asking about gamechangers questions, just common problems of lag, stability, skills bugs fixes, etc etc
    This is a Developers problem, not suits, or moderators, or the janitors...
    I respect all the people that work, but when things dont work, or work bad, changes are needed and it is time for them to wake up or be replaced for new blood!
    New online players is always a good sign but if they dont preserve the Roots (veterans) then all the potential the game has means nothing, and goes down the drain 😫
    Edited by miteba on December 8, 2018 7:57PM
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »


    You must be either new to the forums, new to the game, don't play any end game content, or just trolling because all of these problems have been very well documented through the years.

    Yes...that's it I'm noob, no one could possibly disagree with such wisdom. :neutral:
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter if I play console or not, because most of these problems were introduced in patches, but fan boys will always try to say it's a connection issue or some other nonsense.

    Yes it actually dose matter, and understanding things like load balance, wi fi throughput and offload dynamics isn't nonsense..unless you play only consoles and really have no understanding of such things
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Ummm ok, my internet just decides to go bad on the same exact day every 3 months when a patch is released. Great logic! :D


    Pretty much confirms to me you are a console player...trust me, switch to PC and most of the issues you have will clear up.

    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on December 8, 2018 8:00PM
    "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

    ― Robert E. Howard


    So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.
  • ezio45
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can you guys like get the entire combat and content teams in a single room and play this video out loud?

    tied up in chairs with their eye taped open....
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