PC players, what keybinds do you use so you can actually play?

ImmortalCX

I'm making a push through VMA, but what has always bothered me about playing with the keyboard, is making VMA more difficult than it should be.

I'm using the stock keybinds, the AWSD movement keys and 1-5 buttons for skills. I did rebind weapon switch to the middle mouse button, but I'd rather have two separate buttons for switching.

The problem with this setup is that depending on how you are moving, you cant hit skill buttons. Moving left? You cant hit skills 1 or 2. Moving right? Can't hit buttons 4 or 5. Forward? Buttons 2 and 3 are off limits.

You elite PC players, do you have a special binding that works, or are you using a gaming controller or mouse? When I watch videos of good players, I don't see any of the hinky movement and skill restrictions that I'm dealing with.

Hippie4927

Two words......gaming mouse!

ImmortalCX

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Two words......gaming mouse!

Can you link one that you like? Does it need to have 5+ buttons for skills?

kadochka

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Two words......gaming mouse!

Eek! Can't stand this.. too many buttons you accidentally hit!
I use right-click to move, and maybe I rebound my interrupt... I know I rebound my Ultimate (U).

Juhasow

Elite PC players can complete it by pure light attack spamming.

SirAndy

I have never used WASD in any game ever ...
I'm left-handed and i use the mouse (Left Handed Naga) with my left hand and use my right hand for the keyboard.

My key-binds are:

Forward: (Physical) Left Mouse button (mapped to logical right button because left-handed mouse)
Attack: (Physical) Right Mouse button (mapped to logical left button because left-handed mouse)
Back: Down Arrow
Strafe Left: Left Arrow
Strafe Right: Right Arrow
Jump: Up Arrow
Sprint: Num-0
Crouch: CTRL
Interrupt: Right Shift
Skills 1-5: Backslash | Delete | End | Page Down | Num-4
Ultimate: Home | Key on Naga Keypad
Block: Key on Naga Keypad
Quickslot: Backspace
Interact: Enter
Weapon Swap: Mouse Wheel Up
Synergy: Mouse Wheel Down

Hippie4927

ImmortalCX wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Two words......gaming mouse!

Can you link one that you like? Does it need to have 5+ buttons for skills?

I mostly play with a controller because of issues with my hands but I have a 6-button razor naga that I use sometimes.

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-MOBA-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B006W3ZXEW

AcadianPaladin

I tried a Razor mouse that had 7 thumb buttons and was fumbling/hitting wrong skills too much to make it work. So I went back to a simpler mouse and map all my movement/skills to my keyboard.

You might try A & S for left and right moving and Space Bar for moving forward and B for moving backward. That leaves your middle and index finger free to map skills 1-5 to ERTFG. In theory that could work but, in practice I find it too hard to use.

What I actually use is S & D for left/right and spacebar & B for forward/backward and map skills 1-5 to QWERT so I can easily remember which skills where. But that does limit my ring and middle finger - so I do two things to help there: put any 'passive' skills there (like bound armor, inner light, etc) and practice my rotation while moving so I know I need to change directions to smoothly get my full rotation out.

kargen27

SirAndy wrote: »

I have never used WASD in any game ever ...
I'm left-handed and i use the mouse (Left Handed Naga) with my left hand and use my right hand for the keyboard.

My key-binds are:

Forward: (Physical) Left Mouse button (mapped to logical right button because left-handed mouse)
Attack: (Physical) Right Mouse button (mapped to logical left button because left-handed mouse)
Back: Down Arrow
Strafe Left: Left Arrow
Strafe Right: Right Arrow
Jump: Up Arrow
Sprint: Num-0
Crouch: CTRL
Interrupt: Right Shift
Skills 1-5: Backslash | Delete | End | Page Down | Num-4
Ultimate: Home | Key on Naga Keypad
Block: Key on Naga Keypad
Quickslot: Backspace
Interact: Enter
Weapon Swap: Mouse Wheel Up
Synergy: Mouse Wheel Down

Also left handed.
Forward: num pad 8
Back: num pad 2
Left: num pad 4
Right num pad 6
Skill 1: left arrow key
Skill 2: down arrow key
Skill 3: right arrow key
Skill 4: up arrow key
Skill 5: page down
Attack: left mouse button
Switch bar: right mouse button
Block: middle mouse button hold down
Interrupt: scroll middle mouse button forward
Sprint: num pad +
jump: num pad 0
interact: num pad enter
synergy: num pad 1
ultimate: num pad 9
sneak: num pad 3

I can do all my skills with my thumb and not have to move my hand. Setting up my rotation so I hit skill2/skill3/skill1 seems to work best for me

BigBragg

SirAndy wrote: »

I have never used WASD in any game ever ...
I'm left-handed and i use the mouse (Left Handed Naga) with my left hand and use my right hand for the keyboard.

My key-binds are:

Forward: (Physical) Left Mouse button (mapped to logical right button because left-handed mouse)
Attack: (Physical) Right Mouse button (mapped to logical left button because left-handed mouse)
Back: Down Arrow
Strafe Left: Left Arrow
Strafe Right: Right Arrow
Jump: Up Arrow
Sprint: Num-0
Crouch: CTRL
Interrupt: Right Shift
Skills 1-5: Backslash | Delete | End | Page Down | Num-4
Ultimate: Home | Key on Naga Keypad
Block: Key on Naga Keypad
Quickslot: Backspace
Interact: Enter
Weapon Swap: Mouse Wheel Up
Synergy: Mouse Wheel Down

Why not start with you movement keys being something like IJKL or OKL; and go from there? Would require loads less movement to hit skill keys.

Elsonso

I remapped Ultimate from "R" to "6" to avoid overloading "R". I decided this after a number of times when I accidentally fired off my ultimate.

Beyond that, I use a G13 game pad.

Valrien

kadochka wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Two words......gaming mouse!

Eek! Can't stand this.. too many buttons you accidentally hit!
I use right-click to move, and maybe I rebound my interrupt... I know I rebound my Ultimate (U).

And I can't stand needlessly using colors in text, but here we are.

Also there is virtually no was to accidentally click buttons on a gaming mouse unless you just like to randomly rub the side of the mouse with your thumb

SirAndy

BigBragg wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

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Why not start with you movement keys being something like IJKL or OKL; and go from there? Would require loads less movement to hit skill keys.

My right hand never moves around except when i panic and start mashing keys.

I guess i have large hands?

Jhalin

MMO mouse, Razor brand with 12 buttons for abilities (1-5) and various utility addons like Minimap, Rare Fish Tracker, Combat Metrics, Master Merchant, etc

I moved bar swap to V because the first-to-third person toggle is useless and ~ is way too far for smooth combat

Nevasca

Only changes I make:

Bash: M4 (side button, bot)
Weapon: Swap M5 (side button, top)
Synergy: Middle Mouse Buttom (scroll)
Roll Dodge: F
Res/Interact: T

I don't think I would be able to play without 2 side buttons, mostly because of weapon swapping. F should always be Roll Dodge or Bash, it's your most important keybinding.

About not being able to use skills while going to left/right... That's why positioning your skills on your bars are really important. I like to always have my heals on 3, since it's always accesible.

Forward? Buttons 2 and 3 are off limits.

Eeh, if you use your middle finger on W, you can use your index finger to hit 3-4-5, and your ring finger to hit 1-2. Problem with going sides you can use your mouse to adjust your camera and move where you want and casts skills on the buttons you want, etc. Takes a while to get used to, tbh.

nickl413

ImmortalCX wrote: »

I'm making a push through VMA, but what has always bothered me about playing with the keyboard, is making VMA more difficult than it should be.

I'm using the stock keybinds, the AWSD movement keys and 1-5 buttons for skills. I did rebind weapon switch to the middle mouse button, but I'd rather have two separate buttons for switching.

The problem with this setup is that depending on how you are moving, you cant hit skill buttons. Moving left? You cant hit skills 1 or 2. Moving right? Can't hit buttons 4 or 5. Forward? Buttons 2 and 3 are off limits.

You elite PC players, do you have a special binding that works, or are you using a gaming controller or mouse? When I watch videos of good players, I don't see any of the hinky movement and skill restrictions that I'm dealing with.

I have a Logitech G300s mouse. It has two extra buttons on each side of the mouse. I use the left front one for switching to bar 1, and the right front for bar 2. Left rear is sneak and i dont remember what right rear is, I never use it. I left the mouse wheel and wheel button as is. There are two buttons behind the mouse wheel. I use the first one for synergys. I think the other one i have tied to ultimate but its hard to reach so I just use 6 on the keyboard. I have caps lock, shift, and L Ctrl all tied to roll dodge. double tapping is crap. All I have to do is drop my pinkie finger on the keyboard and I roll dodge.

VaxtinTheWolf

I use a G.Skill Mouse. It has two thumb buttons. I have key-bound dodge roll and weapon swap onto those two side buttons. I use muddle mouse button for bashing, though often forget to use it and just bash the normal way. All other combat key-binds are otherwise generally at default. I am used to moving with WASD from other games, and can use all 5 skills, and using the shift key while retaining movement.

phaneub17_ESO

I like the old Razer Naga with the shoulder buttons on the left, the ones that have it behind the wheel must be for different hand sizes that can't reach them. Anyway in terms like that I use:

1,2,3,4,6 = Action Buttons
5 = Interact
7 = Quickslot
8 = Ultimate
9 = Bar Swap
10 = Strafe Left
11 = Back Peddle
12 = Strafe Right
Front Shoulder = Mount
Back Shoulder = Dodge Roll
Mousewheel Press = Auto-Run

I also use a gamepad and switch off depending the situation I'm in and whichever is most comfortable at the time, yes they can be used at the same time in Gamepad mode.

PS4 Controller:

L1 = Sprint
R1 = Jump
L1+R1 = Dodge Roll
L1+Cross = Use Synergy
Start = Menu
Share = Quickslot
Cross = Interact (using config B turns Jump OFF on this)
Square, Triangle, Cricle, Direction Key Left, Direction Key Right = Action Buttons
Direction Key Up = Toggle Quests
Direction Key Up Hold = Interact with Player
Direction Key Down = Ultimate
Left Joystick Press = Mount
Left Joystick Hold = Crouch
Right Joystick Press = Weapon Swap
Right Joystick Hold = Weapon Sheathe/Unsheathe

M_Volsung

Keywhatnow? I use a controller on my PC.

SHADOW2KK

KB/Mouse, no problem.

AnonomissX

Gotta say...this makes me appreciate my Xbox One controller.

BigBragg

SirAndy wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

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Why not start with you movement keys being something like IJKL or OKL; and go from there? Would require loads less movement to hit skill keys.

My right hand never moves around except when i panic and start mashing keys.

I guess i have large hands?

I've got giant hands too, but having things closer just means easier and faster reaction times. That is why ASDW is popular and those in the know move to SDFE, for use boring righties that is.

Anotherone773

I use a Red Dragon mouse.

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1541915372&sr=8-6&keywords=razr+naga+mouse

As i get older i dont quite have the dexterity i did in my teens and 20s nor do i care as much about optimal playing. Red Dragon is cheaper than Razr and works well. There may be small differences like size and finger positions but its definitely a quality mouse.

My favorite feature is the two left buttons. I have mine set up so i can do all my movement and basic attacks with the mouse. That leaves my keyboard free for action/abilities. The mouse is easy to set up with the program it comes with and it binds the mouse keys to keyboard keys you set. So i can use WASD to move or i can use the mouse to move without making any changes to binding profiles.

My keys are set up as:
M1= Attack
M2= Block
Scroll wheel = Zoom
M3( press scroll wheel)= sprint
M4( 2nd left button) = weapon swap
M5-M6( behind scroll wheel) =DPI swap. So i can change pointer sensitivity on the fly.

On the 12 button thumb pad:
1,4, = Bound to A
2 = Bound to W
3,6 = Bound to D
5= Bound to S
7-12 = Not bound atm

So basically the way the movement keys are bound on the side of the mouse i can just roll my thumb in the direction i want to go.

ESO has an excessive amount of buttons bound for menial tasks. It makes using a keyboard exhausting which is why i got a gaming mouse. I tried a controller but the controller doesnt have the finesse i want. It feels unwieldy and clunky playing which is find if im playing a console game that is built around that clunkiness, but controllers suck for PC games imo.

MaleAmazon

Gaming mouse broke... might get new. ATM I use:

Skills; ALT - space - E - R - F

weapon set 1 - C and V (I get excited and twitchy so I need 2 keys)

weapon set 2 - Z

Dodge roll - shift (changed my life when I 1-key-bound it)

Sprint to 7 and MMB (mmb better in combat, but you have to press hard so I use 7 when travelling)

Various stuff to number keys, §, Q etc... less useful stuff on the other side of the keyboard, sheathe weapon to '-' for example.

MLGProPlayer

Movement: WASD
Ability 1: Q
Ability 2: E
Ability 3: C
Ability 4: X
Ability 5: Z
Ultimate: R
Interact with object: F
Interact with player: V
Consumable: Tab
Weapon swap: Forward button on mouse
Dodge roll: Back button on mouse

This setup lets you maintain full movement while casting skills.

kamimark

I use a gaming mouse, originally a MadCatz MMO7, which is an amazing mouse with all the buttons ever, but the driver is awful and breaks every OS update, so now I use a much less interesting Logitech G402, which has just 4 side buttons but always works.

Forward: W & mouse side 1
Back: S & mouse side 2
Weapon Swap: 6 & middle-click
Use: E & mouse side 3
Ultimate: U & mouse side 4 (got tired of accidentally hitting ultimate instead of confirm)
Quickslot: ` (got tired of accidentally drinking potions when re-grabbing WASD)
Discord Push-to-Talk: Q (not ideal but easy to reach and harmless)
Inventory: Tab (used to that from other games)
Target: R
Sprint: Ctrl (used to that from other games)
Crouch: Shift (used to that from other games)

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

My skill keys:
- 1
- 2
- 3
- Middle mouse button (4 becomes autorun)
- C (5 gets swapped for character screen)
- TAB for weapon swap

Logaritmio

I'm using a Logitech G510 with 18 G keys. The 6 skills are on the upper G key group. WASD, interact and weapon swap on the middle group. Bottom group is not used in ESO except for one key mapped to H. The "menial task" buttons are default. Numpad is used for the addons like AlphaGear2. These boards or similar from other manufacturers are no longer made as far as I know.

Mouse is a G602 with 6 thumb buttons. I'm not currently using these except for one which is Discord PTT. Block and interrupt is done with the left and right button as per default. It's not optimal so I may consider using thumb buttons for this.

I have one spare G510 but I fear that the software will stop working with any Windows update in the future. Logitech is not known for maintaining older equipment. Should this happen I may consider gear like Razer Tartarus or similar.

Biro123

I just remapped some of the harder to reach abilities . So 1 and 2 became E and R, with ultimate moving from R to T.
5 became one of the side buttons on my mouse (the other being weapon swap).
And F for dodge.
Had to move some other non-combat abilities around to accommodate it.

Thrain

ASDW-moving
12345-skills
Y-ulti
Tab-inventory
Shift-barswap
Alt-sprint
Strg-sneak
M1-light attack
M2-block
M3-zooming/viewing
M4-automatically walking/running
M5-dodge
E-interact
F-player interact
V-hardlock
Q-quick slot

Thats how i like to play teso and it works pretts good^^

sno_flah_ke

yes its called a microsoft wireless controller and gamepad. works wonderfully