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Do you frown upon people based on ESO+ status?

  • zaria
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    Don't care at all. That is in game, happy to craft dlc stuff and so on.
    People who demand all for free :open_mouth: Why don't I have perfect Relequen and Olorime, I pay for the game.
    Even mundane stuff like spell strategist and Vicious Serpent.
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  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Why would I give a ***?
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  • goldenflameslinger
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    How would you even know? I could care less.
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  • Jayman1000
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    I definitely frown upon the people who belongs their base on ESO+

    im kidding! I don't care if you or anyone else is ESO+. Well, I do care that the game has an income so it will remain healthy and in development, but that's where my care lies.
    Edited by Jayman1000 on November 5, 2018 9:08PM
  • Kagukan
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    ESO+ is an option. I have it and don't care if others do or don't.
  • wolf486
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    No idc and I never notice if people even have it or not. I have ESO+ 'cos of the crafting bag. Tbh the one thing I hate about having it are those damn DLC dungeons. Makes me avoid doing the daily randoms as I'm horrible with them.
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  • Glurin
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    In general, no. But there are times when someone lords it over someone else or they demand even more stuff be exclusive to ESO+ that really doesn't have any reason to be. That sort of thing does rub me the wrong way, but it's more because they're being an ass than it is the subscription itself.
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  • Elsonso
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    How do you know whether they are, or are not?
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    I sub on and off, and I find the idea of frowning on someone because of their sub status to be bizarre.

    I also find the poll itself bizarre.
  • Donny_Vito
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    How do you know whether they are, or are not?

    You ask them.

    Edit: Or you can easily find out. Queue for a DLC dungeon and you'll see.
    Edited by Donny_Vito on November 5, 2018 9:49PM
  • Danikat
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    It's different ways of buying the same stuff. Why should I care which option other people pick?

    It does bother me when other people are judgemental about it, especially when they seem to think everyone who does/does not subscribe is not entitled to an opinion on anything because of it. It's nearly as childish as the console vs console vs PC argument.
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  • Danikat
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    How do you know whether they are, or are not?

    You ask them.

    Edit: Or you can easily find out. Queue for a DLC dungeon and you'll see.

    It's entirely possible for non-subscribers to access DLC dungeons, all they need to do is buy the DLC.
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  • leeux
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    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Mind blown - someone gave the poll an Insightful.

    It's probably an adherent of the "Insightful are the new LOLs" philosophy ;)
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  • yodased
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    JAwtunes wrote: »
    Mind blown - someone gave the poll an Insightful.

    Many people use insightful as a defacto downvote. We used to have LOL which was used about 50.50 on funny and or bad ideas.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Inanegrain62
    Not much, I care none of it of players being ESO+ or not.

    It's easy to start a convo in zone chat with it, whenever someone talks about ESO+ I just say "ESO+ IS JUST SKOOMA, CHANGE MY MIND" or something related to skooma for how addicting it is as I don't use ESO+. The results were mostly good-time comments and little negative comments, or satire.
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    I like it for the craft bag. However, I do not belittle others that do not have it. Some people cannot afford it. And there are those who stop their ESO+ based on frustrations. I do not judge them either, it is their own concerns/reasonings which are perfectly valid.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    I like it for the craft bag. However, I do not belittle others that do not have it. Some people cannot afford it. And there are those who stop their ESO+ based on frustrations. I do not judge them either, it is their own concerns/reasonings which are perfectly valid.

    Not to forget those who bought DLCs instead of ESO+ long before the baggins. Having free access to DLCs after buying them is a bad selling point.
  • ATomiX96
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    the game used to be worth my time and sub, but now its just a ***-show followed up by another.
    ill rather let all the new people pump their money to support zos via crown store until they start realizing what the game is.
    Edited by ATomiX96 on November 5, 2018 10:18PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Simple...
    If some one wants to use ESO+ then there is nothing wrong with it.
    If some one does not want to use ESO+ then there is nothing wrong with it.

    The problem starts when some aspects of the game are being balanced around what ESO+ has as standard rather than what is "regular" in the game (forcing subscription). The game went from a subscription model to Buy2play model for a reason (just to stay alive lol).
    Simply put - there were not enough people playing the game to keep it running so they went to buy2play. So forcing another for of subscription wont do much good.

    Also people often forget that it is not a matter of how much money do players have. Often this is simply a matter of personal preferences (thanks to early access model in the game industry & releasing unfinished games). People are simply more cautious what they buy and like to pay exactly for one thing rather that paying upfront for a monthly subscription.

    And my guess is that if we somehow check what is biggest source of income for ZOS it would probably turned out that it is not an ESO+ but a "regular" player who buys DLCs, chapters & other stuff from crown store - simply because there are far more players like that when compared to how much % of player base uses ESO+.

    The thing is ESO+ is an optional "extra" and it should stay that way. We should never had a situation when some one who is not using optional premium account (ESO+) is being punished for it in a buy2play game. Instead some one who is using ESO+ should feel rewarded.

    btw. OP - this pool is pointless anyway as you will not get a representative portion of players on forums (minority of players use forums, and most of those who do are ESO+ "Fanboys" shall we say... ) ;)
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on November 5, 2018 10:30PM
  • Elsonso
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    How do you know whether they are, or are not?

    You ask them.

    So, if a non-ESO Plus player gets asked, 87% if the people who might be asking will be cool with it. The remainder will point and laugh. Not sure if those are good odds, or not, especially since it is probably more likely that someone looking for a reason to point and laugh will be doing the askin'.

    Good to know that most of the people in the forum, by a wide margin, don't care.

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  • DaveMoeDee
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    Danikat wrote: »
    It's different ways of buying the same stuff. Why should I care which option other people pick?

    It does bother me when other people are judgemental about it, especially when they seem to think everyone who does/does not subscribe is not entitled to an opinion on anything because of it. It's nearly as childish as the console vs console vs PC argument.

    Wait there is another way for me to get a crafting bag and double bank? Those are the only reason I ever sub.
  • Dojohoda
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    As the one true emperor of tamriel, I frown about everything except when my minions bring me sweet rolls.
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    Simple...
    If some one wants to use ESO+ then there is nothing wrong with it.
    If some one does not want to use ESO+ then there is nothing wrong with it.

    The problem starts when some aspects of the game are being balanced around what ESO+ has as standard rather than what is "regular" in the game (forcing subscription). The game went from a subscription model to Buy2play model for a reason (just to stay alive lol).
    Simply put - there were not enough people playing the game to keep it running so they went to buy2play. So forcing another for of subscription wont do much good.

    Also people often forget that it is not a matter of how much money do players have. Often this is simply a matter of personal preferences (thanks to early access model in the game industry & releasing unfinished games). People are simply more cautious what they buy and like to pay exactly for one thing rather that paying upfront for a monthly subscription.

    And my guess is that if we somehow check what is biggest source of income for ZOS it would probably turned out that it is not an ESO+ but a "regular" player who buys DLCs, chapters & other stuff from crown store - simply because there are far more players like that when compared to how much % of player base uses ESO+.

    The thing is ESO+ is an optional "extra" and it should stay that way. We should never had a situation when some one who is not using optional premium account (ESO+) is being punished for it in a buy2play game. Instead some one who is using ESO+ should feel rewarded.

    Regarding sources of income, there are plenty of ESO+ players who buy a ton of crowns for cosmetic stuff. I wouldn't hazard a guess about that if I was you.

    Since ESO+ is centered around inventory management with so little value in new DLC, not subbing does feel punishing. Inventory management is horrible if you do crafting writs or do crafting in general.
  • JinMori
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    what?

    But they are supporting the game in some way? They bought it, like wtf.
    Edited by JinMori on November 5, 2018 10:34PM
  • Mintaka5
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    I hate freeloaders. Especially ones that benefit more from the same game than those that pay. BRING US PAY TO WIN!!!!!!
  • code65536
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    I mean, I feel a bit bad for some people that don't have access to the DLC. Mostly cuz there's some really awesome stuff that they haven't experienced.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Abigail wrote: »
    Irrelevant.

    I play only solo, keep the chat box turned off at all times, and simply don't give a flying fig what others are doing.

    Ditto.
  • AlienatedGoat
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Abigail wrote: »
    Irrelevant.

    I play only solo, keep the chat box turned off at all times, and simply don't give a flying fig what others are doing.

    Ditto.

    You can't turn off my mudballs. :p
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  • Abigail
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    Phage wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Abigail wrote: »
    Irrelevant.

    I play only solo, keep the chat box turned off at all times, and simply don't give a flying fig what others are doing.

    Ditto.

    You can't turn off my mudballs. :p

    That's not entirely true. :) If someone near me starts slinging mud I simply get on my mount. This mitigates the entire animation.
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