PvP In Murkmire - Your Early Impressions

Joshlenoir

So far, what are your early impressions about the state of PvP in Murkmire following all of the changes from PTS?

Aznox

Positive

Game performance feels better.
BG queue times improved a bit.

Once they find a good balance for enchant procs we can all go back to search for the next OP thing without it being obvious and figured out in 3days

Hopefully we won't have to wait until next big patch ...

EDIT :

Sarousse

Very Positive

Very positive to me :

- hell a lot less cancer builds,

- Shield nerf is nice, though skilled sorcs feel stronger than before the nerf ,

- the new map has offered much more diversity in terms of places of fightning,

- everything feel much more balanced (enchants torug builds will be fixed soon, maybe today even).

Rake

Negative

Negative

Feanor

Very Negative

I don’t feel like playing at all.

kerthas

Very Negative

i quit the game

RedRook

Neutral

Poor Wheeler, all the work lately to give us new things in Cyrodiil, and it's completely overshadowed by combat and item change ****ery and bugs.

Waiting for things to level out...

ATomiX96

Neutral

idk, outside of BGs i dont run into too many people with dualwield torugs, besides that the changes are nice and everything but not what we needed.

Solariken

Negative

It will feel better once Glyphgate blows over. However damage feels like it went up a notch again with this patch even not considering the Torug/DW BS. BGs feel more like a Call of Duty shootout than good MMO combat.

casparian

Negative

TTK is about as low as it has ever been, and there aren’t reliable mobility tools anymore to get away.

I’m not saying I couldn’t adapt —I’m sure with enough work I could. But I’ve lost enough confidence in the combat designers that I don’t think it would be worth the effort.

Huggelz

Very Negative

Every patch is worse then the last, somehow

usmcjdking

Very Negative

Enchants proccing off single target DOTs is the problem and is what has absolutely murdered solo play.

Oblivion damage is a problem.

Single target DOTs, specifically bleeds, are far too overtuned.

Bow is way out of wack.

The nerf to piercing mark and speed pots without fixing magicka dodge roll (cloak)is absolutely crippling to fighting nightblades.

Damage should come specifically from your max stats and that's it.

evoniee

Positive

4.2.6 definitely yes, everyone happy

kaithuzar

Positive

They just need to make small adjustments regarding damage procs/poisons/bleeds.

I would personally like to see block damage mitigation reduced from ~65% to something like ~45%

The only big problem that needs addressing is SERVER LAG especially in pvp but even in pve it’s happening a bit although not to the same extent.

Emma_Overload

Negative

There have been many positive changes and improvements, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to appreciate them because of the incredibly toxic metas that have emerged.

p00tx

Positive

I'm withholding an opinion until I get to experience it on console, where i do most of my playing. I saw it on PTS, but since there was no one in there but me, it's hard to get a real feel for it. I'm super excited though, to be honest. Cyrodil has needed some refreshing for a bit now, and this looks like it'll be really cool to play in.

Minalan

Very Negative

Good news: Performance is up
Bad news: That's because everyone I know has quit the game. Server performance is great when no one is playing.

Good job ZOS on "fixing the servers". Lol. Pack your desks already.

Wrathmane

Very Positive

Sarousse wrote: »

Very positive to me :

- hell a lot less cancer builds,

- Shield nerf is nice, though skilled sorcs feel stronger than before the nerf ,

- the new map has offered much more diversity in terms of places of fightning,

- everything feel much more balanced (enchants torug builds will be fixed soon, maybe today even).

I find my mag sorc is stronger than before the patch... I don't know what it is..... I find the shields work fine... maybe not as strong as they were..... the changes to crystal frags was fantastic, I find I hit a hell of a lot harder.

FearlessOne_2014

Very Negative

Murkmire pushed me to another MMO. Enough said.

Adenoma

Very Negative

It’s hard to get good FPS with a Mac, but my FPS has tanked compared to pre-patch. Gameplay has been unsatisfying despite what seems to have been a majority of good patch changes.

I’m just finding it hard to want to play this game. I still have time left on my sub, but I definitely am not renewing at the moment or giving more money to ZOS. I always hated folks who were trying to be the harbingers of doom each patch, sometimes I agreed with them, but the game always ended up fun. This is the first patch I’ve had where I confidently can say I’m not really having fun anymore.

Kadoin

Negative

Cut down on speed builds that were bugging target system? Great.

Other changes combat? Eh...Let's not even talk about the bugs and even less reliable potions, delays between healing and shielding, delays after using a skill, etc. that don't seem to be tied to any lag. It's almost as if someone wanted to punish macro users but accidentally targeted everyone not using them instead.

At least the map update is good.

MaximillianDiE

Very Negative

I quit just before the patch but watching the streamers and reading the forums about yet another patch bringing in another toxic meta and more unplayable lag does not make me want to log in again.

Coggo

Neutral

Destructible bridges & Gates added freshness to playing the map strategically.

Enchants and latency degenerating to unplayable levels for Aussies & Kiwis though are the fly in the soup bowl which spoiled the entire buffet.

rabidmyers

Very Positive

still the best around, and nothing ever gon bring me down

IZZEFlameLash

Very Negative

Bring on the 20k Light Attack meta plz after this patch.

Moonsorrow

Very Negative

Its sad to see my own messages after patch be so negative, since i am usually very positive, adapting and always excited to play a lot, to farm pve for this and that for new build ideas on pvp for all classes, doing fun setups and generally having fun playing often even 12+ hours crazy long sessions at some days.

Now not excited to play, since after testing i feel like for solo pvp there really is only kinda 1 competitive setup, so why play when that setup is also mindlessly boring and not about skills at all imo. So i just see myself playing less and less because no reason to play really as long as this current meta lives on.

And what really annoys me are the "l2adapt" people.. i mean a trained monkey could adapt and play this current meta. Even pve bosses use more abilities in their scripted rotation than a typical pvp meta player right now, and thats telling a lot about the current situation. Means no variety = no fun.

Seeing many friends abandoning the game because they have a feeling the pvp is not going into better direction about skills, but backwards and empowering the "button smashing playstyle".

My feelings after this patch: Last patch was not perfect, but it was WAY better than Murkmire what comes to pvp, so this now feels like going to worse. Its just weird when one always expects things to improve, not loose fun and variety.

Ugh, i dont like seeing my posts this negative, but cant help it.. loving the game so the frustration shows because of that.

Bam_Bam

Positive

Moonsorrow wrote: »

Its sad to see my own messages after patch be so negative, since i am usually very positive, adapting and always excited to play a lot, to farm pve for this and that for new build ideas on pvp for all classes, doing fun setups and generally having fun playing often even 12+ hours crazy long sessions at some days.

Now not excited to play, since after testing i feel like for solo pvp there really is only kinda 1 competitive setup, so why play when that setup is also mindlessly boring and not about skills at all imo. So i just see myself playing less and less because no reason to play really as long as this current meta lives on.

And what really annoys me are the "l2adapt" people.. i mean a trained monkey could adapt and play this current meta. Even pve bosses use more abilities in their scripted rotation than a typical pvp meta player right now, and thats telling a lot about the current situation. Means no variety = no fun.

Seeing many friends abandoning the game because they have a feeling the pvp is not going into better direction about skills, but backwards and empowering the "button smashing playstyle".

My feelings after this patch: Last patch was not perfect, but it was WAY better than Murkmire what comes to pvp, so this now feels like going to worse. Its just weird when one always expects things to improve, not loose fun and variety.

Ugh, i dont like seeing my posts this negative, but cant help it.. loving the game so the frustration shows because of that.

+1

del9

Negative

I feel extremely limited in PVP. Not just in what I’m able to do but in what builds/ skills I’m using. A slave to certain buffs every 4 GCD or less. Slow is generally less fun.

Micah_Bayer

Positive

Wrathmane wrote: »

Sarousse wrote: »

Very positive to me :

- hell a lot less cancer builds,

- Shield nerf is nice, though skilled sorcs feel stronger than before the nerf ,

- the new map has offered much more diversity in terms of places of fightning,

- everything feel much more balanced (enchants torug builds will be fixed soon, maybe today even).

I find my mag sorc is stronger than before the patch... I don't know what it is..... I find the shields work fine... maybe not as strong as they were..... the changes to crystal frags was fantastic, I find I hit a hell of a lot harder.

Your frag hits for 1k more. Your shields feel weaker. I don't know what it is but.. You somehow feel stronger? What

Alpheu5

Positive

Somewhere between Neutral and Positive. I'll round it up. People using the most modern broken mechanics as a crutch is annoying as always but it just highlights who the bad players are. Overall I'm feeling way better this patch with the Clannfear cost redux to pre-Morrowind levels and them inheriting my crit resists. The telegraph for Rune means people go to dodge it, which means they waste stamina while I just recast it again. The post-cast regeneration from Dark Deal makes the ani-cancel blocking on my frontbar less likely to accidentally drain my stamina below the point of being able to break free. Frags' damage was brought back to right after its stun removal at the cost of costing mag instead of being free. The Daedroth's fire breath affects a larger area.

I am a little irked that they reduced the Major Expedition uptime to Boundless by almost half considering Sorcs are supposed to be the most mobile class. The Overload change is something I'm ambivalent about because it's a QoL improvement if you wanted to have access to your entire rotation for fighting rather than being locked to 5 skills, but it's also a QoL downgrade if you only used the third bar for utility skills like Rapids or Mines.

Deep_01

Negative

Waiting for Nov 6. Magsorc main. Change to enchants and healing ward initial heal is what makes it negative.