No counterplay

Arkangeloski

Can I have some wings with that bleur cheese I'm hungry

IlCanis_LupuslI

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

Soooooo, nerf :stamblade, Orc, Heavy armor, master dw, dbos, spin2win, rendering slashes, blur???

Waffennacht

DB and spin2win will both be heavily negated by shuffle. Slashes and bleed are dodgeable.

Personally I'd make 2h my main, slot 2h ult over DB. Swap spin2win for Executioner. DW backbar for the bleeds.

Then change to a non NB cuz I'm not a fan of NBs lol

But yeah

Zer0oo

have you looked at torugs infused oblivion, that has no counter play

Koolio

Zer0oo wrote: »

have you looked at torugs infused oblivion, that has no counter play

They waste a 5pc set and at least nirn (maybe a WD/SD glyph) just to use it on every light attack. If they don’t weave them perfectly or your out of light attack range then that whole 5pc is gone.

Or when kiting your not normally light attacking.

It also is technically a magic set.

This set is good but also has large set backs in other areas

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

DB and spin2win will both be heavily negated by shuffle. Slashes and bleed are dodgeable.

Personally I'd make 2h my main, slot 2h ult over DB. Swap spin2win for Executioner. DW backbar for the bleeds.

Then change to a non NB cuz I'm not a fan of NBs lol

But yeah

Magicka can't dodge nor use shuffle

Checkmath

But master dual wield gets nerfed....

Skander

Checkmath wrote: »

But master dual wield gets nerfed....

by 150 dmg? so 75 dmg per tick in pvp?

susmitds

Skander wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

But master dual wield gets nerfed....

by 150 dmg? so 75 dmg per tick in pvp?

You people's definition of nerf is nerfing something into uselessness like the new Anguish set. Basically, I don't like this so nerf this build to oblivion. Most whiners are happy that a set is basically dead.
Master Axes got a 10% nerf to its damage. Given that it is a 2 pc set with no 1 pc bonus and no stat bonuses, any more of a nerf will kill its viability.

Skander

susmitds wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

But master dual wield gets nerfed....

by 150 dmg? so 75 dmg per tick in pvp?

You people's definition of nerf is nerfing something into uselessness like the new Anguish set. Basically, I don't like this so nerf this build to oblivion. Most whiners are happy that a set is basically dead.
Master Axes got a 10% nerf to its damage. Given that it is a 2 pc set with no 1 pc bonus and no stat bonuses, any more of a nerf will kill its viability.

Bleeds are op per se. Without master axes

Axes makes them even more freaking disgusting

frostz417

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

Feanor

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

frostz417

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Wasn’t QQ’ing about sorcs, I was setting an example of combos I can cry about... I personally play 6 different classes and only 2 are stam while 4 are mag. I’m just pointing out how absurd OP is.

Mojomonkeyman

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

I'm counting 7+ "l2p" and other borderline insults, but all your post did was convincing me that you are the one who has severe shortcomings when it comes to understanding the game and its balance.

susmitds

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Same could be said about you. Secretary of Sorc whine club.

frostz417

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Also, nerfing an ability that already has counterplay just makes it near useless, so it’s completelt dumb to nerf it. Just look at what they’ were going to do with shields. Completely gut a playstyle that had its counters. Crittable was enough. Not to mention half of these people who cry about things like dawnbreaker are zerglings in big groups getting outplayed by a smaller group of better players. Youre kinda giving the impression that you’re one of them.

Feanor

susmitds wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Same could be said about you. Secretary of Sorc whine club.

I never tell anyone that it’s a „L2P issue“ for starters. I give my opinion based on my game experience after playing the class for 4 1/2 years. I’m not whining. Just voicing my discontent with several of the Dev decisions and the overall way the game is heading. If that’s „whining“, well then I’d love for more people to whine instead of posting insults with little substance.

frostz417

Feanor wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Same could be said about you. Secretary of Sorc whine club.

I never tell anyone that it’s a „L2P issue“ for starters. I give my opinion based on my game experience after playing the class for 4 1/2 years. I’m not whining. Just voicing my discontent with several of the Dev decisions and the overall way the game is heading. If that’s „whining“, well then I’d love for more people to whine instead of posting insults with little substance.

See the issue is? That most of the “nerf” threads are just zerglings crying about bein 1vX’d so then zos takes this seriously and further kills solo and smallscale play. Lame

Feanor

frostz417 wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

Orc lacks sustain and only has speed, once again l2p

Heavy armor can be debatable that it’s cheese but it’ has counter play. Once again l2p

I’m assuming you’re speaking of the nightblade skill called blur, which is only good on heavy armor StamNB which I can agree is OP, but blur isn’t the issue.

Dw axes+2h isn’t even a broken playstyle once again l2p. You saying that is like me crying about destro/resto staff having no counter play because of shields. It’s completely absurd.

Forward momentum is the only counter to zerglings spamming snares and constantly restacking snares. Shuffle isn’t even a good option because it just gives 3 seconds max of snare/root immunity. So as long as snares and roots have no cool down. FM shouldn’t either. L2p

Rending is really only cheese when it’s masters axes. Other than that it’s another l2p issue.

Dawnbreaker... lol the most easily counterable attack ever. It’s called blocking, not to mention most classes that use the burst have the most telegraphed burst that anyone with a brain can see coming. Honestly dude if you see a stamsorc or a stamden running straight at you. Common sense says they’re going to try and burst you. But by pressing this button called LT you can negate that’s burst! I know it’s something extremely difficult and advanced but hey it works!

Spin to win. Another l2p issue, a skill that’s expensive. Does no damage when you’re spamming it alone. Is only good when paired with other skills. But isn’t almost every skill like that? Only good when paired with other combos. Same can be argued about sorc combos, or Nb’s Incap/bow burst.

This really just gives off the impression you only stay in 24 man zergs and have no knowledge of small scale PvP but you get 1vX’d a lot by better players. But if I’m wrong please tell me, because this topic is silly.

One should quote you on that when you QQ again about Sorcs next time. Your post really just gives the impression you’re a stamina players who wants to keep his crutches.

I always find it amusing how people defend something by saying it’s so easy to counter or avoid. If so, changing it wouldn’t mean a thing, right?

Same could be said about you. Secretary of Sorc whine club.

I never tell anyone that it’s a „L2P issue“ for starters. I give my opinion based on my game experience after playing the class for 4 1/2 years. I’m not whining. Just voicing my discontent with several of the Dev decisions and the overall way the game is heading. If that’s „whining“, well then I’d love for more people to whine instead of posting insults with little substance.

See the issue is? That most of the “nerf” threads are just zerglings crying about bein 1vX’d so then zos takes this seriously and further kills solo and smallscale play. Lame

Most of the nerf threads are there because ZOS knows no other way of balancing. If „buffing“ or better yet „reworking“ were a constant mode of operating you’d see far less nerf threads.

mojomood

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

True. Orcs are the master race. 😎

Rukzadlithau

frostz417 wrote: »

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

@frostz417
Being a bad player has its counters. It‘s called rolling a StamNB.

Checkmath

Buzo wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

@frostz417
Being a bad player has its counters. It‘s called rolling a StamNB.

And I thought bad players are countered by pretty much everything...ok everything but other bad players, which would be balanced again, if classes would be balanced.

Rukzadlithau

Checkmath wrote: »

Buzo wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

@frostz417
Being a bad player has its counters. It‘s called rolling a StamNB.

And I thought bad players are countered by pretty much everything...ok everything but other bad players, which would be balanced again, if classes would be balanced.

mediocre skill + op mechanics > great skill + balanced mechanics

It‘s not just the classes, but it starts first and foremost there.

frostz417

Buzo wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

StamNB has its counters. It’s called being a good player

@frostz417
Being a bad player has its counters. It‘s called rolling a StamNB.

I honestly don’t understand why most people see StamNB as some invincible God. Sure they have a good toolkit but honestly people act as if they’re just unkillable and can kill everyone with ease. It’s a little ridiculous

Rukzadlithau

@frostz417

If you wouldn’t exaggerate your wording it’s exactly what NB‘s do though. Already with mediocre player skill and especially if you pair it with other carry mechanics such as bleeds.

NB is the class‘ manifestation of „raise the skill floor“.

Minalan

Buzo wrote: »

@frostz417

If you wouldn’t exaggerate your wording it’s exactly what NB‘s do though. Already with mediocre player skill and especially if you pair it with other carry mechanics such as bleeds.

NB is the class‘ manifestation of „raise the skill floor“.

Here you have some guy eating dinner on a stream, playing his nightblade one handed while wrecking people.

https://youtu.be/BPZpSw68Yz8

This is what ZOS considers balanced gameplay, and a propely designed class. It takes zero skill to play.

Moonsorrow

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

"A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."

Made me giggle a bit, thanks.

Nyladreas

susmitds wrote: »

lucky_dutch wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

OP might be being a baby but this is inaccurate.

Those two both have to use medium to utilise medium evasion and they have no single-target skills to use against people running major evasion.

NB definitely benefits the most.

Are we pretending Blade Cloak doesn't exist? NBs can't even use it anyways as it breaks cloak.

It does NOT break cloak. The trigger that is. Rebuffing does.

Teeba_Shei

Minalan wrote: »

Buzo wrote: »

@frostz417

If you wouldn’t exaggerate your wording it’s exactly what NB‘s do though. Already with mediocre player skill and especially if you pair it with other carry mechanics such as bleeds.

NB is the class‘ manifestation of „raise the skill floor“.

Here you have some guy eating dinner on a stream, playing his nightblade one handed while wrecking people.

https://youtu.be/BPZpSw68Yz8

This is what ZOS considers balanced gameplay, and a propely designed class. It takes zero skill to play.

He's in lowbie BGs where the players don't even have heals. A lot of the players in there are new to the game. You can also clearly see his damage is way higher than the other players. Other players are doing less than 1k damage to him with abilities and his weakest ability(gap closer) is doing 2k damage.