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Skander
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Murkmire
Stamina Nightblade
Orc
Heavy armor
Bleur
Dual wield axes+ 2h
forward momentum
Rendering slashes
Dawnbreaker
Steel tornado


Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp
I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
  • Wuuffyy
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    That’s not how that works but your welcome to try though.
    Wuuffyy,
    ESO player since 2014
    -PM for questions
  • Silver_Strider
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    Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

    "A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."
    Argonian forever
  • ZonasArch
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    I know nothing about PvP, but judging by the simplistic and whiny nature of your post, associated with the notion that nobody would share a build like this if it was all that good (they would do it properly somewhere else), I'm 101% sure you're wrong and your absurd hyperbole is just here for effects, kinda like my level of certainty of this very statement I made.

    Have fun! And make sure to wipe your tears and foaming rage saliva before it drips on your keyboard.
    Edited by ZonasArch on October 10, 2018 4:06PM
  • Skander
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    All these sweet summer childs
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
  • mr_wazzabi
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    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese
    Bosmer Stamina NB
    Altmer Magicka TEMP
    Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
    Altmer Magicka NB
    Breton Magicka Sorc
    Redguard Stam Sorc
    Max CP
  • ak_pvp
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    Bit of an overreaction, but yeah. Its one of the best builds. Use zaan or troll king with it.

    Good burst and pressure dmg, decently fast, shade and run to escape, good sustain.
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
    Best houseknight EU.
  • Skander
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Bit of an overreaction, but yeah. Its one of the best builds. Use zaan or troll king with it.

    Good burst and pressure dmg, decently fast, shade and run to escape, good sustain.


    It's overtuned
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
  • Vahrokh
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    Silver_Strider wrote: »
    Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

    "A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."

    He does not play sorc...
    Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress

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    Here is the Sorcerer Helper addon I have updated to work on current ESO
  • Rukzadlithau
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    Most silly thing on it is the sustain/heal from new Siphoning Strikes on DW heavies.
  • Crixus8000
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    Stamsorc benefits more from spin2win as it's called, and does benefit from bleeds. But Stamblade is the king when it comes to bleeds. Getting 28% extra damage from class and a class major defile they can really add a lot of pressure. It's quite a common meta tbh.
  • Kanar
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    Yeah it's a strong build, but isn't NB the preferred child when it comes to PvP balancing?
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    Stam Warden and Sorc are both getting hit by the 25% aoe mitigation. NB has a good ST toolkit and so won't be hurt as much. OP should remove dbos and put incap or onslaught.
  • Rake
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    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    Blur*
  • susmitds
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    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    Stamsorc benefits more from spin2win as it's called, and does benefit from bleeds. But Stamblade is the king when it comes to bleeds. Getting 28% extra damage from class and a class major defile they can really add a lot of pressure. It's quite a common meta tbh.

    28% extra damage? Where did ya pull those numbers out of?
  • Joosef_Kivikilpi
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    Stamsorc benefits more from spin2win as it's called, and does benefit from bleeds. But Stamblade is the king when it comes to bleeds. Getting 28% extra damage from class and a class major defile they can really add a lot of pressure. It's quite a common meta tbh.

    28% extra damage? Where did ya pull those numbers out of?

    Assassination Ultimate and Assassin's Will = 20% + 8%, respectively.
  • susmitds
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    Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    Stamsorc benefits more from spin2win as it's called, and does benefit from bleeds. But Stamblade is the king when it comes to bleeds. Getting 28% extra damage from class and a class major defile they can really add a lot of pressure. It's quite a common meta tbh.

    28% extra damage? Where did ya pull those numbers out of?

    Assassination Ultimate and Assassin's Will = 20% + 8%, respectively.

    None of them is extra damage per say. One is a non-class specific buff, Minor Berserk, that anyone can use. Another is an ultimate and guess what, every single ultimate has second effects.
  • susmitds
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    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    Not a single thing is here is unique to StamNB and guess what most stamina builds, including stamNB are already using this setup on Live, so nothing's different. Just another QQ post.
    Edited by susmitds on October 10, 2018 5:18PM
  • Crixus8000
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    susmitds wrote: »
    28% extra damage? Where did ya pull those numbers out of?

    Incap 20% and relentless focus 8%
    susmitds wrote: »

    None of them is extra damage per say. One is a non-class specific buff, Minor Berserk, that anyone can use. Another is an ultimate and guess what, every single ultimate has second effects.

    Both are extra dmg when going for pressure. And a non-class buff makes no difference, most of these builds play solo/smallscale so it's a strong buff. And I don't see how other ultimates having secondary effects has anything to do with what I said. It still gives them insane pressure.

    Edited by Crixus8000 on October 10, 2018 5:27PM
  • Silver_Strider
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    Silver_Strider wrote: »
    Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

    "A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."

    He does not play sorc...

    It was a joke about OP's spelling of Blur, not whatever class they play.
    Argonian forever
  • Ariades_swe
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    But .. but nbs are weak and cloak is worthless
    we need buff.

  • CivilSword
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    B) This build is perfect for anyone wanting to feed ones narcissism. I can hear you now, "I am so skilled" "heavy armor didnt carry me" " I DB and Spamnato and then run away...till I can DB and Spamnato again......." B)
    Liberty of Conscience.
  • olsborg
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    Bleeds is the main problem with such a build imo.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • NyassaV
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    Wolf_Watching wrote: »
    That’s not how that works but your welcome to try though.

    you'd be suprised
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  • Malamar1229
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    Silver_Strider wrote: »
    Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

    "A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."

    "Look sir, nightblade"
  • Silver_Strider
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    Malamar1229 wrote: »
    Silver_Strider wrote: »
    Bleur sounds like some kind of perfume

    "A new fragrance from Calvin Klein. Bleur, made from 100% pure Sorc Tears."

    "Look sir, nightblade"

    Already responded to this.
    Argonian forever
  • Feanor
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    Anyone not being an NB or Warden doesn’t realistically have access to Minor Berserk. Sure, you can run Slimecraw. You give up another possible monster set for it which maintains the power gap.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • lucky_dutch
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    Block, wait for opponent’s stamina to be gone after 3 seconds of steel tornado spamming, proceed to wreck them.

    Was that so hard?
  • lucky_dutch
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    OP might be being a baby but this is inaccurate.

    Those two both have to use medium to utilise medium evasion and they have no single-target skills to use against people running major evasion.

    NB definitely benefits the most.
  • Rukzadlithau
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    lucky_dutch wrote: »
    Block, wait for opponent’s stamina to be gone after 3 seconds of steel tornado spamming, proceed to wreck them.

    Was that so hard?

    With Siphoning Strikes NB‘s don‘t run out of resources against blockers. Also they drop your block with Mass Hysteria anyways.

    And even if you take another class in context, which the thread is not about, bleed is still too strong and can be applied so efficently you don‘t just outsource your opponent by holding block.
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    lucky_dutch wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    OP might be being a baby but this is inaccurate.

    Those two both have to use medium to utilise medium evasion and they have no single-target skills to use against people running major evasion.

    NB definitely benefits the most.

    Are we pretending Blade Cloak doesn't exist? NBs can't even use it anyways as it breaks cloak.
  • Skander
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    susmitds wrote: »
    lucky_dutch wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Murkmire
    Stamina Nightblade
    Orc
    Heavy armor
    Bleur
    Dual wield axes+ 2h
    forward momentum
    Rendering slashes
    Dawnbreaker
    Steel tornado


    Enjoy being unkillable and dashing 20k+ dps in pvp

    It's actually stam warden and stam sorc that benefit mostly from this cheese

    OP might be being a baby but this is inaccurate.

    Those two both have to use medium to utilise medium evasion and they have no single-target skills to use against people running major evasion.

    NB definitely benefits the most.

    Are we pretending Blade Cloak doesn't exist? NBs can't even use it anyways as it breaks cloak.

    Blade cloak will be useless next patch. Blur does the same thing, last longer
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
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