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Give every class own major brutality/major sorcery
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jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Isn't Templar the only one without it? Nightblade has that one AOE that gives it, Sorc has Surge, DK has Molten Weapons, and Warden has the netch.3 -
Stibbons✭✭✭✭✭Forgot the nightblade AOE one
Well the major should be some out of combat skill. Templars sure could use it. 3 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.Edited by Biro123 on October 8, 2018 3:14PMMinalan owes me a beer.
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✭✭✭✭Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX7 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They'll add in Major Brutality/Sorcery to Templar once they've homogenized all sources of those buffs to be 20 seconds and removed Potions with those effects from the game.Argonian forever2 -
FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.
What... lol
Major Sorcery and Major Brutality are basic buffs that are required of any class to deal damage...
Templar is the only class without its own method to achieve either of these buffs naturally.
Be reasonable for once, forum.12 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.
What... lol
Major Sorcery and Major Brutality are basic buffs that are required of any class to deal damage...
Templar is the only class without its own method to achieve either of these buffs naturally.
Be reasonable for once, forum.
It does have acess to potions and entropy which are very solid forms for obtaining major sorcery.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX1 -
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✭✭✭✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.
What... lol
Major Sorcery and Major Brutality are basic buffs that are required of any class to deal damage...
Templar is the only class without its own method to achieve either of these buffs naturally.
Be reasonable for once, forum.
It does have acess to potions and entropy which are very solid forms for obtaining major sorcery.
I always used to use pots for it on my sorc, rather than wasting a bar-slot for surge...
My stamplar has no problem getting Major Brut.
But the point is - homogenisation is bad.Minalan owes me a beer.
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lucky_dutch✭✭✭✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.5 -
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✭✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
I wouldn't complain if templar got major sorcery and brutality on clappy hands heal. That skill is pretty useless.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher for ESO-U. Frost Warden PvE Build Article: https://eso-u.com/articles/nightingales_warden_dps_guide__frost_knight. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX1 -
katorga✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.
Well sorc's DO have major vitality..isn't it attached to one of their encase morphs?
DK's and Wardens are the only classes with major mending, iirc.
Tamplars and NB's lost minor vitality.
Minor protection has been nerfed down to 3 seconds for everyone but Warden.4 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Stibbons✭✭✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
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✭✭✭✭✭Can sorcs have major mending/vitality too?
Edit.. The point is - classes should be different and therefore not all have access to the same buffs.
Well sorc's DO have major vitality..isn't it attached to one of their encase morphs?
DK's and Wardens are the only classes with major mending, iirc.
Tamplars and NB's lost minor vitality.
Minor protection has been nerfed down to 3 seconds for everyone but Warden.
Yes, Restraining Prison gives 2 seconds of Major Vitality plus 1 second per enemy around you. Only useful for Sorc Tanks that are controlling trash packs.
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✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheapValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Stibbons✭✭✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Force drinking potions in not the way to go.7 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Force drinking potions in not the way to go.
Let me put it this way. If you're not drinking potions, you don't care THAT much about your DPS therefore...why does the buff even matter?
Btw if you really REALLY need it as a skill:
-Momentum (Brutality)
-Hidden Blade (Brutality)
-Entropy (Sorcery)
2 staple weapons and a Guild tree have these buffs already, and would eat up the same GCD that a skill like Surge, Molten, etc would eat up.
Hell, Entropy also gives you 8% health and 2% magicka with the right morph
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FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.7 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get SurgeEdited by Valrien on October 8, 2018 4:15PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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ankeor✭✭✭✭✭I would ask the opposite. Remove Major Brutality and Sorcery from class skill lines. Raplace them with unique class buffs/debuffs.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I would ask the opposite. Remove Major Brutality and Sorcery from class skill lines. Raplace them with unique class buffs/debuffs.
All classes already have one unique buff.
Minor Prophecy (Sorcerer)
Minor Sorcery (Templar)
Minor Savagery (Nightblade)
Minor Brutality (Dragon Knight)
Minor Toughness (Warden)Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get Surge
Surge is tied with Netch for best source of Major Brutality/Sorcery in the entire game...
So I'm not sure what you mean by comparing having to grind some mobs for 30 minutes for Surge, compared to hours of book hunting for Mages Guild levels, even with the help of Lorebooks add-on.
Sorcerers and Wardens receive A LOT more benefit from leveling their own sources of Brutality and Sorcery compared to Templar which gets almost no benefit except the Sorcery buff itself from using Entropy.2 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Force drinking potions in not the way to go.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get Surge
Surge is tied with Netch for best source of Major Brutality/Sorcery in the entire game...
So I'm not sure what you mean by comparing having to grind some mobs for 30 minutes for Surge, compared to hours of book hunting for Mages Guild levels, even with the help of Lorebooks add-on.
Sorcerers and Wardens receive A LOT more benefit from leveling their own sources of Brutality and Sorcery compared to Templar which gets almost no benefit except the Sorcery buff itself from using Entropy.
It's a bit more than 30 minutes to get Surge, and a lot less to get Entropy.
I'd say that they take almost the same amount of time, actually.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get Surge
Surge is tied with Netch for best source of Major Brutality/Sorcery in the entire game...
So I'm not sure what you mean by comparing having to grind some mobs for 30 minutes for Surge, compared to hours of book hunting for Mages Guild levels, even with the help of Lorebooks add-on.
Sorcerers and Wardens receive A LOT more benefit from leveling their own sources of Brutality and Sorcery compared to Templar which gets almost no benefit except the Sorcery buff itself from using Entropy.
It's a bit more than 30 minutes to get Surge, and a lot less to get Entropy.
I'd say that they take almost the same amount of time, actually.
You're still disingenuously comparing Surge to Entropy.
Surge is magnitudes better because 1) doesn't require a target 2) heals you every time you critically strike
Surge is one of the biggest reasons that Sorcerer is so much better than every other class for veteran Maelstrom for goodness' sake. LOL1 -
RedRook✭✭✭✭What exactly do people who don't play templar think they're going to lose if templars have class-skill access to this particular buff?
Seems pretty likely ZOS would attach it to slotting a skill nobody wants to use, "We give something, but we take something, balance!" so I doubt a legion of overpowered templars would suddenly appear.
And if using pots or entropy is so easy anyway, then who the hell cares if they get it on one of the skills they actually want to use?4 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get Surge
Surge is tied with Netch for best source of Major Brutality/Sorcery in the entire game...
So I'm not sure what you mean by comparing having to grind some mobs for 30 minutes for Surge, compared to hours of book hunting for Mages Guild levels, even with the help of Lorebooks add-on.
Sorcerers and Wardens receive A LOT more benefit from leveling their own sources of Brutality and Sorcery compared to Templar which gets almost no benefit except the Sorcery buff itself from using Entropy.
It's a bit more than 30 minutes to get Surge, and a lot less to get Entropy.
I'd say that they take almost the same amount of time, actually.
You're still disingenuously comparing Surge to Entropy.
Surge is magnitudes better because 1) doesn't require a target 2) heals you every time you critically strike
Surge is one of the biggest reasons that Sorcerer is so much better than every other class for veteran Maelstrom for goodness' sake. LOL
If you look at the scores, you'll see that the Maelstrom bit actually isn't true. That's not the point though.
The point is that the thread is needlessly asking for things that are already provided to players in the form of global skills and potions.
Most Sorcs don't use Surge unless they're in Maelstrom. Basically no DK uses Molten. No Nightblade uses Sap. And Wardens use Netch, but not for the buffs
There's a reason for that. Potions are just superior. There's no way one can take these requests seriously with the amount of options there are in the game, since if you really care about your DPS you'll be using potions anyways.
It's hard to say "I care about my DPS just enough to want Brutality/Sorcery, but not enough to use a potion. I'd rather waste a bar slot to cripple my build"Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What exactly do people who don't play templar think they're going to lose if templars have class-skill access to this particular buff? Seems pretty likely ZOS would attach it to slotting a skill nobody wants to use, "We give something, but we take something, balance!" so I doubt a legion of overpowered templars would suddenly appear.
And if using pots or entropy is so easy anyway, then who the hell cares if they get it on one of the skills they actually want to use?
Mainly because it's a nonsense requestValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake1 -
FlamingBeard✭✭✭✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »FlamingBeard wrote: »lucky_dutch wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Homogenisation isnt a really great idea... if its the same thing but just colour differences, then its a bad game.
In abilities but not in buffs.
Everyone knows this is practically a must-have for any stam build so all that happens if you play one that doesn't have access to it is you pick 2h and get forward momentum.
Or pop a potion like everyone does anyways?
You always don´t want to use specific potion and they are pretty expensive.
Not really. Spell Damage/Weapon Damage options are pretty cheap
Forcing players who pick a certain class to use potions or farm Mages Guild for a Major buff that's extremely necessary in all gameplay is not fair, nor is it balanced.
Sorcery and Brutality should DEFINITELY be homogenized throughout all classes.
"Farm"
Dude it's a level 4 skill. That's not really farming.
That's like saying it's not fair that you have to level up Storm Calling to get Surge
Surge is tied with Netch for best source of Major Brutality/Sorcery in the entire game...
So I'm not sure what you mean by comparing having to grind some mobs for 30 minutes for Surge, compared to hours of book hunting for Mages Guild levels, even with the help of Lorebooks add-on.
Sorcerers and Wardens receive A LOT more benefit from leveling their own sources of Brutality and Sorcery compared to Templar which gets almost no benefit except the Sorcery buff itself from using Entropy.
It's a bit more than 30 minutes to get Surge, and a lot less to get Entropy.
I'd say that they take almost the same amount of time, actually.
You're still disingenuously comparing Surge to Entropy.
Surge is magnitudes better because 1) doesn't require a target 2) heals you every time you critically strike
Surge is one of the biggest reasons that Sorcerer is so much better than every other class for veteran Maelstrom for goodness' sake. LOL
If you look at the scores, you'll see that the Maelstrom bit actually isn't true. That's not the point though.
The point is that the thread is needlessly asking for things that are already provided to players in the form of global skills and potions.
Most Sorcs don't use Surge unless they're in Maelstrom. Basically no DK uses Molten. No Nightblade uses Sap. And Wardens use Netch, but not for the buffs
There's a reason for that. Potions are just superior. There's no way one can take these requests seriously with the amount of options there are in the game, since if you really care about your DPS you'll be using potions anyways.
It's hard to say "I care about my DPS just enough to want Brutality/Sorcery, but not enough to use a potion. I'd rather waste a bar slot to cripple my build"
Scores mean absolutely nothing when comparing classes in vMA.
Compare the number of players per class clearing that arena.
This is not a difficult concept to understand nor should you continue arguing against Templar getting an in-class source of Brutality/Sorcery simply based on... nothing really except you just don't want Templar to have a better source of those buffs like your precious Sorcerer gets. lol
I have run through vMA countless times on both my magsorc and my magplar, and guess which one had a much easier time and the one I ended up using for farming?
If you guessed "Sorcerer" you'd be correct!
You know why? Because I can stay 20+ meters away from every boss and mob in there and still receive constant healing, contrary to magplar which is limited to melee range for Puncturing Sweep to heal.Edited by FlamingBeard on October 8, 2018 4:55PM2 -
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✭Totally agree. Gotta love the folks who play a class with it available through their class abilities tell everyone else just to suck it up and do what they don't have to like waste a potion to get the most out of your dps, and of course they'll say they don't even use their class one as well.
So disingenuous some of you are, just to keep an advantage over others.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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