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Shield cap - Do you even play a MagSorc?
ItsNebula
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“...but cap the total shield amount to 40% of your character’s maximum health.”
Wanna know what I get from this?
“MagSorcs need to run heavy armor”
Talk about trying to create build diversity lmao.
Personally? I think this is worse than a cast time. You can crit shields now, most sorcs run 20-22k HP which is like what, 8k shield? ANY stam toon that isn’t bad can easily 1 shot that shield.
This will almost FORCE PvP sorcs to run heavy armor.
This is bs.
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Edited by ItsNebula on September 27, 2018 9:24PM Wanna know what I get from this?
“MagSorcs need to run heavy armor”
Talk about trying to create build diversity lmao.
Personally? I think this is worse than a cast time. You can crit shields now, most sorcs run 20-22k HP which is like what, 8k shield? ANY stam toon that isn’t bad can easily 1 shot that shield.
This will almost FORCE PvP sorcs to run heavy armor.
This is bs.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.26 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭I think this is game is crap, you are forced to use skills and where armor sets, I feel really forced and its not nice at all....
Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only11 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.
Heavy armor MagSorc has no damage.
Cast time they still have great damage. Just requires more strategic play.2 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »They do. They all main nightblades, every one of them.
I’m not surprised 😂😂😂1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.
Heavy armor MagSorc has no damage.
Cast time they still have great damage. Just requires more strategic play.
That's definitely worse than dying during a 1 second cast time.5 -
Agenericname✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You should have just stuck to your story about the prom and girl friend instead of coming clean.1 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.
Heavy armor MagSorc has no damage.
Cast time they still have great damage. Just requires more strategic play.
That's definitely worse than dying during a 1 second cast time.
One second would require more LOS, and a better self heal.
40% of ur max hp? 8k shield on average? You can crit shields? Any good player can 1 shot crit that.5 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭I think this game is awesome. I started as a DK main sorcs should try that outImperial_Voice wrote: »
I think this game is awesome. I started as a DK main so sorcs should try that out lol. I just have many toons now I think building is actually more fun that playing sometimes. Better to have crap main as DK so you can just move wherever ZOS bring the buffs. So yes sarcasmXbox EU & NA - PVP Only1 -
Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think this game is awesome. I started as a DK main sorcs should try that outImperial_Voice wrote: »
I think this game is awesome. I started as a DK main so sorcs should try that out lol. I just have many toons now I think building is actually more fun that playing sometimes. Better to have crap main as DK so you can just move wherever ZOS bring the buffs. So yes sarcasm
Sorry its...its just so hard to tell sometimes....0 -
Kelces✭✭✭✭✭Templar responds: "Welcome to my life!"
You reveal yourself best in how you play.
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Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
Jurupari - Argonian Warden
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Kelces✭✭✭✭✭
And bad mobility and bad offense while having all that defensive stuff slotted...
Edit: BTW, there are light armor sets, that provide +max health too.Edited by Kelces on September 27, 2018 3:58PMYou reveal yourself best in how you play.
Kelces - Argonian Templar
Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
Jurupari - Argonian Warden
Kú-Chulainn - Argonian Sorcerer
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For the Pact!9 -
Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭this is a nerf for the 60k mag scrubsorc. This does not touch my BG sorc at all. Shields allready vanished in 1hit there, so no change realy. Dodge roll is still the best defence in the game.Cleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
-Someone said it, I guess.6 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Welcome to being a Templar
PC/Xbox NA Mindmender|Swashbuckler Supreme|Planes Breaker|Dawnbringer|Godslayer|Immortal Redeemer|Gryphon Heart|Tick-tock Tormentor|Dro-m'Athra Destroyer|Stormproof|Grand Overlord|Grand Mastercrafter|Master Grappler|Tamriel Hero4 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭
And bad mobility and bad offense while having all that defensive stuff slotted...
Edit: BTW, there are light armor sets, that provide +max health too.
Still cry about bad mobility even with swift now? Haven’t heard that in a hot minute.
Templars have some of the best offense.
If you think they have bad offense your insane.14 -
Hateanthem✭✭✭✭So you mean you will have to run impen pieces and maybe some heavy armor LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The inhumanity of it all...10 -
grannas211✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.
whats the difference?2 -
Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭What was the saying before? Something like l2p and use shieldbreaker
Oh so the other classes have to wear a certain set for you but not the other way around?
That being said i didn’t see a need for a shield nerf but whatev7 -
The_Camper✭✭✭✭✭
And bad mobility and bad offense while having all that defensive stuff slotted...
Edit: BTW, there are light armor sets, that provide +max health too.
Still cry about bad mobility even with swift now? Haven’t heard that in a hot minute.
Templars have some of the best offense.
If you think they have bad offense your insane.
*Dr.Phils voice*
So it's ok for you to tell that person to wear swift while sacrificing stats and damage to get mobility, While it's NOT OK or LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE for you to stack some health and resistances while sacrificing some damage?
ayy. logical14 -
Revelzdevelz✭✭✭no one is forcing you to run anything. You wanna be a glass cannon? go ahead. There should be a consequence to that and being killed easily if hit is it.10
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Kelces✭✭✭✭✭
And bad mobility and bad offense while having all that defensive stuff slotted...
Edit: BTW, there are light armor sets, that provide +max health too.
Still cry about bad mobility even with swift now? Haven’t heard that in a hot minute.
Templars have some of the best offense.
If you think they have bad offense your insane.
Ha, I'm not the one who is complaining about something, that isn't even a problem. Talk about "crying", you didn't have an argument against my suggestion about using another set for example, or putting a bit more HP enchantments on the light armor you already got.You reveal yourself best in how you play.
Kelces - Argonian Templar
Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
Jurupari - Argonian Warden
Kú-Chulainn - Argonian Sorcerer
PC - EU
For the Pact!4 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭
And bad mobility and bad offense while having all that defensive stuff slotted...
Edit: BTW, there are light armor sets, that provide +max health too.
Still cry about bad mobility even with swift now? Haven’t heard that in a hot minute.
Templars have some of the best offense.
If you think they have bad offense your insane.
Ha, I'm not the one who is complaining about something, that isn't even a problem. Talk about "crying", you didn't have an argument against my suggestion about using another set for example, or putting a bit more HP enchantments on the light armor you already got.
Ahh yes the sets. You mean the absolute dog sh’t mag sets that give a health bonus where everything else is useless?
Let me go ahead and stack some HP enchants and get 26k HP on a MAGICKA sorc - and get a 10k shield where any good stam toon can land a 1 shot crit on, and if that doesn’t 1 shot it a light attack will finish it off.
OH , don’t forget about being on the defense almost 24/7 when getting zergend down by zerglings and bowtards, and not able to cleanse all the DoTs and defiles and snares...
Think about what you’re saying. Templar > Sorc.
What does a Templar have that’s amazing in PvP? Cleanse. Burst heal. HoTs. Major mending from passive. (Or is it minor? But still...) minor protection. LOTS of FREE damage. Reliable, VERY cheap and strong spamable. Major protection from the ult + minor... 38%. Strong class ults for solo and group play... I can go on.
What’s a MagSorc have that’s amazing in PvP?
Shields IF not being zerged down.
Nice timed burst... if your frags and endless arnt easily dodged.
Curse, streak. Negate if you think that’s any great.
Anything else? Not really.
So compare Templars to Sorcs again, please 0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭Revelzdevelz wrote: »no one is forcing you to run anything. You wanna be a glass cannon? go ahead. There should be a consequence to that and being killed easily if hit is it.
Any good player can easily kill a MagSorc. Hell, 2v1? Those 2 if ANY good, can kill the Sorc easily. Or run him out of magicka and burst him down when shields are dropped.3 -
carlos424✭✭✭✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »So you mean you will have to run impen pieces and maybe some heavy armor LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The inhumanity of it all...
Except that light armor passives are basically for mag characters. Increase magicka, magicka sustain, etc. Sure we can run heavy armor and survive, but dps goes down 5-10k, but you will be alive. Lol. Nice trade off4 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Oh no. We've gone from deleting MagSorc from PVP to forcing them to run heavy armor.
Thats definitely objectively worse.
Heavy armor MagSorc has no damage.
Cast time they still have great damage. Just requires more strategic play.
That's definitely worse than dying during a 1 second cast time.
One second would require more LOS, and a better self heal.
40% of ur max hp? 8k shield on average? You can crit shields? Any good player can 1 shot crit that.
It's even worse in no-CP campaigns. But look on the bright side, this gives everyone an opportunity to slot the "I wish I had a 6th slot" skill. Whatever that is.1 -
carlos424✭✭✭✭✭Plus you have to run 5 pieces of light armor to use annulment, so there goes that shield for all non sorc mag characters, if they go anything but light armor.Edited by carlos424 on September 27, 2018 5:27PM5
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Hateanthem✭✭✭✭Hateanthem wrote: »So you mean you will have to run impen pieces and maybe some heavy armor LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The inhumanity of it all...
Except that light armor passives are basically for mag characters. Increase magicka, magicka sustain, etc. Sure we can run heavy armor and survive, but dps goes down 5-10k, but you will be alive. Lol. Nice trade off
And leather armor passives are for stam characters, but most stam characters end up running impen and heavy to survive other players. They don't get to stack 50k stam with divines or infused on their armor while having super shield. They get dodge roll which eats into their stat pool for damage output.
Cry me a river. You have to sacrifice boom boom for survivability in PvP scenarios.
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