Should Armor Type have a movement modifier

Illuvatarr

Name says it all. Should lighter armor inherently have you move more quickly than heavier armor types.

Nyladreas

Yes

Definitely yes. Although just slightly.

We don't want 4 swifts on medium and 5 on light.

Unless you have a negative modifier in mind of course. That's even better.

Gilvoth

all movement speeds need to be increased, both sneak speeds as well as mount speeds AND walking and running speeds.
right now it is like we are crawling in mud, i Hate it.

brandonv516

Yes

This is essentially what I suggested here for PvP only:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/437455/dont-nerf-swift-jewelry-base-movement-speed-penalty-add-to-battle-spirit#latest

Not very popular though

BaylorCorvette

Yes

Yes I support this. Right now with Swift my StamSorc can be at +70% speed without sprinting and in full heavy.. I def think full heavy should be slower movement. and honestly the sprint bonus from medium is pretty useless with the addition of Swift.

eso_nya

No

Remove snares from pve, give a magicka morph to rapids, remove the "the effect ends when u cast a spell" part, reduce cost by 50%.

If anything, heavy should give a movement speed bonus in pve. sucks to be the tank and having to waste stamina for sprinting when tryharding to catch up to the triggerhappy dds.

For pvp, aslong as its attached to battlespirit, do whatever.

Arciris

No

I voted No but actually different Armor types already have a movement modifier: Medium Armor gains a % of sprint speed per piece worn. There's no need to add more.
If that were to be ever introduced then Armor types penalized with slower movement should get something else in return.

I'm starting to think Stam in medium are lobbying for Swift nerf just because they don't like to loose their edge in PvP.

ak_pvp

No

At worst a cap. Not a blanket nerf.

Kanar

No

Medium armor is the movement based armor. If you want to move faster, wear it.

Or there is swift ofc. Is this a nerf swift thread?

Chilly-McFreeze

No

Kanar wrote: »

Medium armor is the movement based armor. If you want to move faster, wear it.

Or there is swift ofc. Is this a nerf swift thread?

This. We all know this is aimed at nerfing heavy. After nerfs to constitution and wrath (btw without adding any other passive, simply splitted one passive into two) now people want to nerf it's mobility as well.

And then there are traits that complain about people being untargetable fast. What shall it be now?

Undefwun

Yes

For PvP at least Heavy should not move as fast as Medium. 5 pieces of heavy needs a speed de-buff, and not just on sprint, because they they'll just wack on swift and not sprint.
Just seems logical, I don't understand why that guy in full plate is going as fast as me in medium.

There needs to be more trade offs in general in the game. Look at the Kena monster set. That should be the template.
Especially on currently 'free' dmg proc sets. There needs to be more conscious choices between stats to increase your dmg/sustain and 'free' dmg. So if you wanna proctard with 3 dmg sets you need to give up something.

Defilted

No

Why do we need a movement speed nerf? Why? Players are running to fast? I (insert name here) do not like it when players run fast. I like moving slow so all players should be forced to slow down.

What is the point of slowing everyone down?

VaranisArano

If we change the movement speed of armor types, then I insist in the name of realism that we alter the swim speed as well unless you unequip your armor.

Light Armor is slowed after exiting the water because of sopping wet robes.
Heavy Armor just sinks like a stone.

_Ahala_

Yes

If mobility is to be the new means of surviving in light we should have better passives to help with that than just grace

Kanar

No

Defilted wrote: »

Why do we need a movement speed nerf? Why? Players are running to fast? I (insert name here) do not like it when players run fast. I like moving slow so all players should be forced to slow down.

What is the point of slowing everyone down?

There is a good reason to nerf movement in the post swift world - the server code is trash and can't keep up, leading to a buggy mess when trying to attack a swift runner.

You could say server performance needs to be improved, but com'on let's be realistic here.

Illuvatarr

Yes

Defilted wrote: »

Why do we need a movement speed nerf? Why? Players are running to fast? I (insert name here) do not like it when players run fast. I like moving slow so all players should be forced to slow down.

What is the point of slowing everyone down?

So you are saying that someone in platemail should move as quickly as someone in a robe?

Seriously?

eso_nya

No

Illuvatarr wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

Why do we need a movement speed nerf? Why? Players are running to fast? I (insert name here) do not like it when players run fast. I like moving slow so all players should be forced to slow down.

What is the point of slowing everyone down?

So you are saying that someone in platemail should move as quickly as someone in a robe?

Seriously?

The one in platemail is a trained warrior, running and fighting is all he does. The one in light armor is a standard nerd, he's out of breath within 15 seconds.

JPcrazysquirrel3

Maybe, I would need to see a proposed system

Then, I could finally make a character in medium armor and swift enchants and name him Barry Allen!

Wing

No

they all already do (and will) in the form of various buffs.

medium armor increases move speed, the idea being your martially trained and can run faster, however it has no sprint cost reduction because your still encumbered

light armor has no speed bonus as your in theory not martially trained, however your not encumbered thus the sprint cost reduction and snare reduction as it is easy to move around in light armor. (though I would argue robes suck for running, but whatever)

and heavy armor gets nothing, because while you are probably martially trained your in full plate, so no bonuses.

it all works, heavy is the worst, and there was no nerfing or taking away from people involved. . .ta da.

leepalmer95

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

Medium armor is the movement based armor. If you want to move faster, wear it.

Or there is swift ofc. Is this a nerf swift thread?

This. We all know this is aimed at nerfing heavy. After nerfs to constitution and wrath (btw without adding any other passive, simply splitted one passive into two) now people want to nerf it's mobility as well.

And then there are traits that complain about people being untargetable fast. What shall it be now?

Funny because in cp campaigns pretty much everyone who's a knowledgeable pvper runs heavy.

Iki

Yes

Heavy armor is overperforming in pvp now, especially with stamina-builds. I`d rather not see them nerf mitigation, healing and sustain of heavy armor, as that would also screw pve-tanks and they do not deserve nerfs. And aren`t heavy warrriors supposed to be able to stand ground and take beating? But what is there to nerf then? Damage-output and mobility.

There`s several well known heavy-sets that give way too much offensive potential while one enjoys good defense of heavy-armor, and swift-jewelry allows high movement-speed. Those heavy-sets giving lots of dmg sure would deserve reasonable downgrading of their power, but I`m not sure if that would be enough. Small difference in mobility however could be elegant way to give light- and medium-armor builds reasonable advantage over heavy. If heavy armors default movement speed would be 10% slower, I would consider that balanced and justified.

Beardimus

Yes

Always been up for this, probably more relevant now light at.our getting rekt. Might as well have something going for it.

Chilly-McFreeze

No

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

Medium armor is the movement based armor. If you want to move faster, wear it.

Or there is swift ofc. Is this a nerf swift thread?

This. We all know this is aimed at nerfing heavy. After nerfs to constitution and wrath (btw without adding any other passive, simply splitted one passive into two) now people want to nerf it's mobility as well.

And then there are traits that complain about people being untargetable fast. What shall it be now?

Funny because in cp campaigns pretty much everyone who's a knowledgeable pvper runs heavy.

And this has probably it's reason in sets and survivability. So Will slowing down heavy make light armor any more survivable? Nope, the shield cast time will still be detrimental to them. What light needs is mobility per se, not simply speed. Expedition and especially snare removal have to be accessable without being forcef into vamp or 2h for mag chars.

However, i'd be ok with the different speed suggestion as Long As it only comes in buffs to light and medium But Not as nerf to heavy. But then again, targeting is still an issue.