Shadowrend set needs some love too!

Drygon

Maw of the infernal finally got the flames hit-box fixed and i expect it to see some more use now, but what about Shadowrend set?

Can the Clanfear we summon get Rending Leap like other clanfear have? Also, make it target the enemy we target so we decide who gets minor maim.
And even if i know that it was summoned by DMG before, i kind of feel that 8% proc-rate on any dmg would be the same with the current 15% on dmg taken only that it would benefit anyone who uses it. ATM people mostly use the set for the first pice bonus and combine with Chokethorn, IF some changes were made maybe we would see more use of this set.

What do you guys think? Any alternative ideas?

NyassaV

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

Drygon

NyassaV wrote: »

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

The damage is lacking and i know it is to provide minor maim, and that is cool, but the tail swipe just sucks as an Aoe compared to Maw for example, the player has to be stuned or something for it to hit.

Shezzarrine

On the contrary, I hope they nerf all pet sets into the ground so nobody uses them. They are very annoying, especially maw. They get in the way while doing group content and in trials they can lead to even worse game performance. I personally ran vAS and vHoF with someone who wore this set and it was more annoying than you might think and eventually the group lead asked the person to not use that set.

Drygon

Shezzarrine wrote: »

On the contrary, I hope they nerf all pet sets into the ground so nobody uses them. They are very annoying, especially maw. They get in the way while doing group content and in trials they can lead to even worse game performance. I personally ran vAS and vHoF with someone who wore this set and it was more annoying than you might think and eventually the group lead asked the person to not use that set.

Well, in a coordinated group just do not use them, obvious choice, but they can provide good diversity in PVP, and with the changes to the Maw, Shadowrend is shadowed by it.

NyassaV

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

The damage is lacking and i know it is to provide minor maim, and that is cool, but the tail swipe just sucks as an Aoe compared to Maw for example, the player has to be stuned or something for it to hit.

It's not supposed to do damage. I'm pretty sure Shadowrend does more damage than shadow image so I'm not sure why you'd even really ask. The set is fine as is

Drygon

NyassaV wrote: »

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

The damage is lacking and i know it is to provide minor maim, and that is cool, but the tail swipe just sucks as an Aoe compared to Maw for example, the player has to be stuned or something for it to hit.

It's not supposed to do damage. I'm pretty sure Shadowrend does more damage than shadow image so I'm not sure why you'd even really ask. The set is fine as is

I asked because i tested it on PTS along with Maw of infernal and the Tail swipe is plain useless, it misses most of the time, and unlike the Daedroth, the Shadowrend does not even focus the target with priorty. And Shadow image is a skill, Shadowrend takes up two slots and comparing it to other effects it is quite sub-par. It does not even place the maim effect on the corect target msot of the time, as it is now it only is usefull in 1 vs 1 pvp where there is no other target and in PVE for tanks as a way to apply minor maim, but it can be much more like Maw, that is usefull for all classes.

What we lack is diversity, yeah we could as well just use the Maw and that is what i will be doing, i want to make a point that there could very easily be more on par alternatives. This is true not only to Shadowrend, there are other sets that have been forgoten and need a rework but that is not the topic here.

NyassaV

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

The damage is lacking and i know it is to provide minor maim, and that is cool, but the tail swipe just sucks as an Aoe compared to Maw for example, the player has to be stuned or something for it to hit.

It's not supposed to do damage. I'm pretty sure Shadowrend does more damage than shadow image so I'm not sure why you'd even really ask. The set is fine as is

I asked because i tested it on PTS along with Maw of infernal and the Tail swipe is plain useless, it misses most of the time, and unlike the Daedroth, the Shadowrend does not even focus the target with priorty. And Shadow image is a skill, Shadowrend takes up two slots and comparing it to other effects it is quite sub-par. It does not even place the maim effect on the corect target msot of the time, as it is now it only is usefull in 1 vs 1 pvp where there is no other target and in PVE for tanks as a way to apply minor maim, but it can be much more like Maw, that is usefull for all classes.

What we lack is diversity, yeah we could as well just use the Maw and that is what i will be doing, i want to make a point that there could very easily be more on par alternatives. This is true not only to Shadowrend, there are other sets that have been forgoten and need a rework but that is not the topic here.

Shadow rend gives you the ability to use necropotence on classes like DK and templar so it WILL NOT be buffed in all likelihood.

Drygon

NyassaV wrote: »

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Drygon wrote: »

NyassaV wrote: »

Shadowrend is already very powerful especially since it has such a high uptime

The damage is lacking and i know it is to provide minor maim, and that is cool, but the tail swipe just sucks as an Aoe compared to Maw for example, the player has to be stuned or something for it to hit.

It's not supposed to do damage. I'm pretty sure Shadowrend does more damage than shadow image so I'm not sure why you'd even really ask. The set is fine as is

I asked because i tested it on PTS along with Maw of infernal and the Tail swipe is plain useless, it misses most of the time, and unlike the Daedroth, the Shadowrend does not even focus the target with priorty. And Shadow image is a skill, Shadowrend takes up two slots and comparing it to other effects it is quite sub-par. It does not even place the maim effect on the corect target msot of the time, as it is now it only is usefull in 1 vs 1 pvp where there is no other target and in PVE for tanks as a way to apply minor maim, but it can be much more like Maw, that is usefull for all classes.

What we lack is diversity, yeah we could as well just use the Maw and that is what i will be doing, i want to make a point that there could very easily be more on par alternatives. This is true not only to Shadowrend, there are other sets that have been forgoten and need a rework but that is not the topic here.

Shadow rend gives you the ability to use necropotence on classes like DK and templar so it WILL NOT be buffed in all likelihood.

There are a lot of other more consistent set choices to run than to rely on the proc of the set for the buff, and so far i have barely seen players using the set even in pvp, yet alone Dragon Knights with it.
And lets say that even if that is something someone will go with it and necropotence, it is not efficient enough that Shadowrend getting a decent AOE (and targeting that should have been there) will buff the build in any way. Hell, i bet it as a set won't even make it to the top but at least it will see more use.

brandonv516

I want Shadowrend to jump on players, stunning them, and rending their flesh in PvP.

Drygon

brandonv516 wrote: »

I want Shadowrend to jump on players, stunning them, and rending their flesh in PvP.

Something like that but without the Stun, that will make it too strong of a set i think.
Just the Jump so it has a good way to apply minor maim AOE and gap close. The jump should trigger when its target is X meters away and the player is targeting them. And regarding Dmg, it should do a bit lower dmg than tailswipe as it will be easier to hit.