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Alliance Housing aka Navy, Ship Home. AP Pricing

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Please place a row boat at the docks of the 3 major cities and when you click on it you port to a ship/frigate that is in the shallows. The city will be in the far distance and a reasonable radius around the ship will be swimmable water without slaughterfish.

3 ships styles to match the 3 alliances.

Purchasable with AP on a medium/high rank character or a lot of Crowns.
Obviously any lock or requirements like rank are skipped if purchased with crowns.

This will incentivize PvP for those of us playing fashion scrolls online and be a nifty reward for long time pvpers, a place to display their banners and keep their storage coffers.

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Edit extra: This home will have lets say about max 200 slots (400 for plus members). It won’t have any land to build on. It won’t allow as many simultaneous visitors. Less item allotment also means less collectible allotment. They already let us earn free in game a 200/400 house from the Witches Festival.

It won’t devalue the Grotto. I think the Grotto allows 24 people and 700 spaces right?

It’s basically just like the Alliance horse, the Alliance dog and the Alliance costume.

For example I was thinking of a ship this size, the Prowler to be exact.
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NOT a ship this size, docked in Haven if you want to see it, it's friggen huge.
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Edited by max_only on September 30, 2019 6:41AM
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Alliance Housing aka Navy, Ship Home. AP Pricing 168 votes

Yay
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I have to choose other, I just gotta.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.
  • StamWhipCultist
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    Yay
    Why not! Especially if we get ships for each race in their own style
  • max_only
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    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.

    I thought about that. This home will have lets say about max (edit)200 slots (400 for plus members). It won’t have any land to build on. It won’t allow as many simultaneous visitors. Less item allotment also means less collectible allotment.

    It won’t devalue the Grotto. I think the Grotto allows 24 people and 700 spaces right?

    It’s basically just like the Alliance horse, the Alliance dog and the Alliance costume.
    Edited by max_only on September 23, 2019 10:41PM
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  • Universe
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    Yay
    This a great idea :)
    Maybe they can implement a restriction for the purchase, like this home can only be bought by a player with alliance rank "General", "Grand Warlord" etc.
    AP can be banked too, but with such a restriction it will prove a real dedication :)
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  • White wabbit
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    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.

    Wasn't really a ship though , I want a ship at a dock and have for sometime
  • Aurielle
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    I'd love to have an AP-purchasable home! My only concern is that it would ramp up PvDooring even more... If my alliance is packed with players, I'd prefer it if they were actively engaged in the campaign, and not just there to rack up AP for a house.
  • max_only
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    I'd love to have an AP-purchasable home! My only concern is that it would ramp up PvDooring even more... If my alliance is packed with players, I'd prefer it if they were actively engaged in the campaign, and not just there to rack up AP for a house.

    If it’s a high enough requirement PvDoor won’t be an efficient way to buy it. Those people would buy it with crowns (something Zos would love).

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  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.

    Except the Grotto is no longer for sale. So, a Ship player home at a dock that corresponds to the alliance would not ruin the value of The Grotto.

    Also, the Ship house would be smaller, as it is just a ship. Whereas, the Grotto is a giant cavern with Altmer ruins and a ship
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  • NordSwordnBoard
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    Yay
    As an owner of the Grotto, I'd be fine with this suggestion.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Yeah, see, the problem with the whole "Its a different ship, and its just a ship so it won't devalue the grotto" argument is this:

    ZOS knows we want a ship.

    ZOS specifically made the ship house an expensive crown store mansion.

    So if you really want a ship, you have to pay lots of $$$.

    If ZOS releases another ship - just a simple ship - then people who just want a ship will buy that simple ship instead of paying lots of $$$ for the expensive ship house.

    So, sorry, I don't think ZOS will release a simple ship. If you really want a ship, ZOS wants you to have to spend $$$ to buy the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto (either when it came out or the next time around, since Linchal Manor was rereleased).
  • Osteos
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    Yay
    Could be cool. I would say 200 spots with 400 for eso plus though.
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  • Pink_Violinz
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    Yay
    I see nothing wrong with an AP bought house. I'd go for a fort or something, but I really like this idea.
  • WoodenHeart
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    But... isn't Cyrodiil landlocked?

    I'm all for it, though. The more houses, the better! Smaller is good, too. Giant mansions are so hard to decorate with the pitiful amount of slots they give us.
  • max_only
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    Yeah, see, the problem with the whole "Its a different ship, and its just a ship so it won't devalue the grotto" argument is this:

    ZOS knows we want a ship.

    ZOS specifically made the ship house an expensive crown store mansion.

    So if you really want a ship, you have to pay lots of $$$.

    If ZOS releases another ship - just a simple ship - then people who just want a ship will buy that simple ship instead of paying lots of $$$ for the expensive ship house.

    So, sorry, I don't think ZOS will release a simple ship. If you really want a ship, ZOS wants you to have to spend $$$ to buy the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto (either when it came out or the next time around, since Linchal Manor was rereleased).

    They have more than one of each style of home. They have more than one Breton, more than one Argonian more than one Bosmer etc. And your assumption that people will “just buy the simple ship” assumes that enough people gave in and bought the Grotto (we don’t know the numbers); that people won’t want 2 ships; and that people who want a real place for training dummies, duels and guild events won’t upgrade to larger homes. If it has a small population allotment it won’t be very attractive for pvp guilds and the like.

    So sorry I don’t think that we as a forum are good predictors of what Zos will or won’t do, they’ve certainly surprised us before. Remember the “Zos will never release Morrowind as a dlc”? Yeah...
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  • Unfadingsilence
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    You know what.... ya why not but not cheap since AP is easy to get, yes even as a solo player you can make great AP and I have over 100 million AP I would like to spend thank you :smile:
  • ArchMikem
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    Universe wrote: »
    This a great idea :)
    Maybe they can implement a restriction for the purchase, like this home can only be bought by a player with alliance rank "General", "Grand Warlord" etc.
    AP can be banked too, but with such a restriction it will prove a real dedication :)

    That's a bit up there...

    How about Legate.
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  • max_only
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    Yay
    Also the ship in the Grotto House is Altmer style. It’s not a good look for loyal Covenant and Pact people.
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  • NordSwordnBoard
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    max_only wrote: »
    Also the ship in the Grotto House is Altmer style. It’s not a good look for loyal Covenant and Pact people.

    This is why you can't see the pact flags on my ship until it's too late - Commerce raider disguised as a friendly ship.
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  • AlnilamE
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    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.

    We can never have too many ships!
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  • max_only
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    Yay
    I wonder what the “nays” are thinking.
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  • max_only
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    updated with pictures
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  • max_only
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    Yay
    Since we are all getting the Psijic house, exclusivity is now a moot point. I’m bringing this back. A ship in the shallows purchased with AP is a great way to give content to pvp
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  • NoTimeToWait
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    Yay
    I don't PVP much, but still think this is a great idea. Maybe something like this would make me participate in PVP more
  • max_only
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    I just thought of this, the price will be flat in crowns but will vary depending on your PVP rank.

    The higher your rank the less AP it costs.
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  • max_only
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    Yay
    Also, they should release a furnishing of a bunch of rat critters that appear randomly. Like how the butterflies appear randomly from the Alchemy achievement plant.
    Edited by max_only on April 7, 2019 4:37AM
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  • max_only
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    Yay
    Thought I’d float this by you again. Get it, float?
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    max_only wrote: »
    Unfortunately ZOS already made the Ship home and they want people to buy it for tons of crowns. So while I like this idea, they aren't going to hurt sales of the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto among the "I gotta have a ship!" Housing crowd.

    I thought about that. This home will have lets say about max 100 slots (200 for plus members). It won’t have any land to build on. It won’t allow as many simultaneous visitors. Less item allotment also means less collectible allotment.

    It won’t devalue the Grotto. I think the Grotto allows 24 people and 700 spaces right?

    It’s basically just like the Alliance horse, the Alliance dog and the Alliance costume.

    Make it 400 and the ship will be perfect. 100-200 slots will go much faster than you might expect on an actual ship that is presented in game.
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  • White wabbit
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    Why isn’t this on the game yet Zos
  • Michae
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    Sure! But I doubt they'd do it.
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  • Deep_01
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    Only thing you can call home in a war zone is a grave. Or a cave or a tent/camp. An room in alliance war base would make more sense.

    Also, what would stop an enemy from destroying the row boat?
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