Alliance Housing aka Navy, Ship Home. AP Pricing

Irfind

Yay

Why not ? Throw a bone for PvP its a good idea
A house for AP could also help to encourage some PvE players to do more PvP

DUTCH_REAPER

Yay

Blood for the PACT!!! ZOS take my money and give me my Dragon themed Corsair!!

kind_hero

So how would the game handle your chars which are from a different alliance? Or visitors?

What if I am DC and buy the Covenant ship and later I relog on my EP char? Do I see the same DC ship?

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Yay

The housing community asks for more small and medium sized houses all the time, along with houses that can be obtained inside the game.
It's tiring to always get massive houses limited time houses that cost a fortune of crowns. They are too big with a too niche theme aswell. I'd never buy the Aldmeri Grotto to get a ship, because that house is so much more than the ship. A ship that is also altmer styled which I don't want. No money there for ZoS.
I would on the other hand likely buy a house that is mostly just a ship and is near a city. We need more simple houses in the small and medium sized categories.

max_only

Yay

kind_hero wrote: »

So how would the game handle your chars which are from a different alliance? Or visitors?

What if I am DC and buy the Covenant ship and later I relog on my EP char? Do I see the same DC ship?

You can only buy the DC ship if your DC character is the correct rank. Of course your AD and EP can visit, just like you can visit the free inn rooms that are faction based.

Remember inn rooms like Vulkhel Guard are free if you’re are either
A. In AD
B. Finished the quest requirements

Most people have either: already made a character in each faction and for each chapter to unlock those inn rooms or; done the quests.

You wouldn’t be able to purchase the AD ship if you don’t have an AD character of a certain rank.

If the rank was for example, Legate, then to buy the EP style ship docked at an EP city you must make the purchase with an EP character ranked Legate.

If that’s the only Legate you have, that’s the only style ship you can get for AP. You’d have to pay in crowns if you wanted the other two styles.

Essentially if you have a Legate of each faction then yes you can have 3 different ships: one in each alliance style at their corresponding major city.

Alliance furnishing works that way already. Once you reach Prefect in AD that character can buy an AD alliance forward camp. Any of your other characters can move it around, hold it, whatever. It’s just not unlocked until you reach rank.

UndeniablyAVG

I have to choose other, I just gotta.

I really like the idea of alliance based housing and houses being purchasable for AP. However I'd rather have an instanced keep or outpost somewhere in Cyrodiil than a random boat.

Reverb

I don’t dislike your idea from a housing perspective, but the tie in to pvp is a stretch since there’s no naval combat in this game.

I would very much like a naval pvp dlc though where the alliances fight in either the Topal or Niben bays for passage into Cyrodiil. Not only would that be fantastically fun but it would support this housing idea.

redlink1979

@max_only I'd love to see some spot where we could have some "housing" in Cyro.
A camp or underground "bunker" or even a room inn at the alliance's HQ would be a nice addition. Just to keep some essential items: this would be a place with a reduced number of slots.

Purchasable with crowns or AP? I agree.

I think we can't ask for house in Cyro because we're talking about a war zone.

max_only

Yay

Deep_01 wrote: »

Only thing you can call home in a war zone is a grave. Or a cave or a tent/camp. An room in alliance war base would make more sense.

Also, what would stop an enemy from destroying the row boat?

The war commander requisitions this ship for you in recognition of your service.

p00tx

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What if it upgraded with your Alliance Rank, sort of like the Lunar House does? Stage one is just the surface of the ship, maybe up to rank 10, the 10-20 would be an above deck indoor area, 21-30 would be a below deck, 31-40 would be something else, and Grand Overlord could unlock maybe a small island or even an underwater thing that functions like the Xanmeer house.

It could even just grow larger in overall space as you advance, and allow more housing slots and visitors as well. Make it based on your highest ranked character.

max_only

Yay

Reverb wrote: »

I don’t dislike your idea from a housing perspective, but the tie in to pvp is a stretch since there’s no naval combat in this game.

I would very much like a naval pvp dlc though where the alliances fight in either the Topal or Niben bays for passage into Cyrodiil. Not only would that be fantastically fun but it would support this housing idea.

There’s a naval battle in the AD quest line. There is even siege and boarding an enemy ship.

There’s also a very small peek into naval battle on EP’s quest line.

But that’s neither here no there, my main impetus for suggesting this is to get non-pvpers to pvp. A regular land based home made of stone and wood, even if it looks like an outpost, is something they can get with the homes currently on offer. This is a prize of a unique pvp only home in a style that is much desired. Not many pvers would be willing to dip their toes into pvp for a house that looks like one they can get without.

I definitely won’t say no to more naval battles in the game!

max_only

Yay

I put the option to buy with crowns as a concession but I would want it to be crazy expensive to buy with crowns. For a 200/400 space home it should have the price of a castle. It won’t stop giant whales sure, but the majority of players who want it may dip their toes into pvp with that goal in mind and find they like it enough to participate regularly.

Also there is already a free house with 200/400 slots in the game earned through achievements in the Witches Event.

Korah_Eaglecry

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VaranisArano wrote: »

Yeah, see, the problem with the whole "Its a different ship, and its just a ship so it won't devalue the grotto" argument is this:

ZOS knows we want a ship.

ZOS specifically made the ship house an expensive crown store mansion.

So if you really want a ship, you have to pay lots of $$$.

If ZOS releases another ship - just a simple ship - then people who just want a ship will buy that simple ship instead of paying lots of $$$ for the expensive ship house.

So, sorry, I don't think ZOS will release a simple ship. If you really want a ship, ZOS wants you to have to spend $$$ to buy the Colossal Aldmeri Grotto (either when it came out or the next time around, since Linchal Manor was rereleased).

This is assuming a lot about buyers thats just not true. Rational buyers are going to weigh the cost to benefit of purchasing the Grotto. Many are going to choose not to purchase it because the cost greatly outweighs the benefit to them. Especially due to the overall price and because of the limit on item slots available to such a massive map. Many of these players would have to be offered a significant discount on the house, if not for it to be offered outright free for them to purchase or accept it. And even then there will be those that do not want to be bothered with it.

All of these players are better suited for a more cost effective house that they can afford and that they will feel more comfortable engaging with. By deciding not to produce an alternative house to the playbases liking they are closing the door on any opportunities for those potential sales. Its ultimately up to ZOS if they want to engage with the demand of an alternative here. But limiting house boats to just one and keeping it at an expensive price will not drive more sales for it.

beadabow

Yay

I would absolutely grind AP for a unique "house" boat (even if it is a ship).

haelene

Yay

+ 1 from me even though I won't personally buy it. You guys are in dire need of some stuff that's only for you.

max_only

Yay

haelene wrote: »

+ 1 from me even though I won't personally buy it. You guys are in dire need of some stuff that's only for you.

Thank you! Currently I’m trying to get some bop furniture that’s pvp only.

max_only

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Well TIL people have over 50 million AP sitting there and would love to buy a house with their AP.