Snared with immovable pot

GlorphNoldorin

Dont know what the point of posting this is but the frustration is so bad. Cast an immovable/speed potion, 47 seconds of speed, 10+ seconds of immovability......then get instantly slowed. This game is so broken

Stratforge

You should try running something that gets rid of snares.

Reverb

Immovable pot make you immune to hard cc, like stun and knockback. It doesn’t help snares, which have almost 100% uptime in pvp.

For snare and root immunity use a 2H weapon and run the Forward Momentum skill.

GlorphNoldorin

I know that is what's required, however immovable potions are supposed to work on all disabling effects, of which snares in my opinion should be considered.

Has zos a statement on this? I mean what is the purpose of immovable potions if they dont grant immunity to every thing, just use forward momentum and dont have them in the game then.

SilverWF

Snare is not 'disabling effect', when you can't move or perform any actions.

GlorphNoldorin

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

SilverWF

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

While snared, you can move and perform any(!) actions, like skills cast or attacks.

Disabled - when you can't do any and all of it.

Recremen

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

You can still sprint it's just not worth jack because the extra movement speed still winds you up at like half normal movement speed. It's an unfortunate bit of confusion around terminology. Hopefully they can get a Game Term Dictionary or something in the help menu to clarify these sorts of things!

OH WAIT there already is, apparently. Logged in to check and was pleasantly surprised. However, there IS actually a legitimate problem. I can't find "snares" covered anywhere in the menu, and Immobilize is listed under Disabling Effects. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you pass something along to the appropriate team letting them know that snares should be listed somewhere in the Combat menu and that there should probably be a separate term for Snares and Immobile effects so as not to cause confusion regarding the Immovability status? Thanks!

Beardimus

Recremen wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

You can still sprint it's just not worth jack because the extra movement speed still winds you up at like half normal movement speed. It's an unfortunate bit of confusion around terminology. Hopefully they can get a Game Term Dictionary or something in the help menu to clarify these sorts of things!

OH WAIT there already is, apparently. Logged in to check and was pleasantly surprised. However, there IS actually a legitimate problem. I can't find "snares" covered anywhere in the menu, and Immobilize is listed under Disabling Effects. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you pass something along to the appropriate team letting them know that snares should be listed somewhere in the Combat menu and that there should probably be a separate term for Snares and Immobile effects so as not to cause confusion regarding the Immovability status? Thanks!

There's a combat menu???

Not on console

Recremen

Beardimus wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

You can still sprint it's just not worth jack because the extra movement speed still winds you up at like half normal movement speed. It's an unfortunate bit of confusion around terminology. Hopefully they can get a Game Term Dictionary or something in the help menu to clarify these sorts of things!

OH WAIT there already is, apparently. Logged in to check and was pleasantly surprised. However, there IS actually a legitimate problem. I can't find "snares" covered anywhere in the menu, and Immobilize is listed under Disabling Effects. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you pass something along to the appropriate team letting them know that snares should be listed somewhere in the Combat menu and that there should probably be a separate term for Snares and Immobile effects so as not to cause confusion regarding the Immovability status? Thanks!

There's a combat menu???

Not on console

@Beardimus

On PC you go to the Help menu with /help and then navigate the tabs on the top right of that UI. The leftmost tab says "Tutorials". Among the Tutorials there is a Combat submenu with all kinds of goodies.

StamWhipCultist

Immovability pots do not prevent snares. It should work only against stuns such are ones from permafrost, dizzying swing, rune cage, petrify and similar.

Against snares you either need skills like Forward Momentum, Shuffle, one of DK wings morph or rapids.

frozywozy

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

enzoisadog

lmao

Beardimus

Recremen wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

So not being able to sprint.....is that disabling sprint...which is an action?

You can still sprint it's just not worth jack because the extra movement speed still winds you up at like half normal movement speed. It's an unfortunate bit of confusion around terminology. Hopefully they can get a Game Term Dictionary or something in the help menu to clarify these sorts of things!

OH WAIT there already is, apparently. Logged in to check and was pleasantly surprised. However, there IS actually a legitimate problem. I can't find "snares" covered anywhere in the menu, and Immobilize is listed under Disabling Effects. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can you pass something along to the appropriate team letting them know that snares should be listed somewhere in the Combat menu and that there should probably be a separate term for Snares and Immobile effects so as not to cause confusion regarding the Immovability status? Thanks!

There's a combat menu???

Not on console

@Beardimus

On PC you go to the Help menu with /help and then navigate the tabs on the top right of that UI. The leftmost tab says "Tutorials". Among the Tutorials there is a Combat submenu with all kinds of goodies.

Thats pretty sweet! i'll take a look but i'm pretty sure we dont have that

NyassaV

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

I know that is what's required, however immovable potions are supposed to work on all disabling effects, of which snares in my opinion should be considered.

Has zos a statement on this? I mean what is the purpose of immovable potions if they dont grant immunity to every thing, just use forward momentum and dont have them in the game then.

If that's the case then snares should proc reactive too ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Recremen

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

frozywozy

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Recremen

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Of course not, I'm saying that not bringing snare immunity to a large group battle is intellectually on par with not bringing damage abilities. Group smart and prep up or face the consequences is not a radical position to hold for large battles.

frozywozy

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Of course not, I'm saying that not bringing snare immunity to a large group battle is intellectually on par with not bringing damage abilities. Group smart and prep up or face the consequences is not a radical position to hold for large battles.

Could you tell me what kind of snare immunity a class without burst heals bring to the battle?

Feanor

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Of course not, I'm saying that not bringing snare immunity to a large group battle is intellectually on par with not bringing damage abilities. Group smart and prep up or face the consequences is not a radical position to hold for large battles.

Could you tell me what kind of snare immunity a class without burst heals bring to the battle?

None, but it doesn’t matter - we can all play StamWarden right?

frozywozy

Feanor wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Of course not, I'm saying that not bringing snare immunity to a large group battle is intellectually on par with not bringing damage abilities. Group smart and prep up or face the consequences is not a radical position to hold for large battles.

Could you tell me what kind of snare immunity a class without burst heals bring to the battle?

None, but it doesn’t matter - we can all play StamWarden right?

Pretty much.

technohic

Yes come prepared to Cyrodiil. IE medium armor or 2h or get a group carry.

frozywozy

technohic wrote: »

Yes come prepared to Cyrodiil. IE medium armor or 2h or get a group carry.

3.5seconds of snare immunity in full medium? Good deal.

Or 2handed? I think you forgot to mention the part where you sacrifice the only burst heal available for several classes.



You shouldn't have to rely on a group to fight without snares for more than 50% of your time in battle. Snares should be applied to you with the penality of dealing minimal damage, not both. This being said, on top of my suggestions to lower the amount of snares, here are some additional suggestions to help deal with them :

• Change the morph of Momentum (Rally) to something else and add a new stamina burst heal ability somewhere else OR Change the morph of Momentum (Forward Momentum) to something else and add a new stamina snare immunity ability somewhere else.
• Increase the duration of Shuffle in full medium to match the actually version of Forward Momentum
• Add a potion that give snares immunity for 8-10seconds
• Change the useless morph of Mist Form to provide snares immunity while being able to cast skills but remove the damage mitigation and the cc immunity

Sacredx

Pretty much what others said. Immovable does not prevent snares. However, there are quite a few options to get around snares. Just need to understand the game mechanics and know your limitations. Study your opposition, find their weaknesses and use that knowledge to gain an advantage. I guarantee you will beat any opponent.

technohic

frozywozy wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Yes come prepared to Cyrodiil. IE medium armor or 2h or get a group carry.

3.5seconds of snare immunity in full medium? Good deal.

Or 2handed? I think you forgot to mention the part where you sacrifice the only burst heal available for several classes.



You shouldn't have to rely on a group to fight without snares for more than 50% of your time in battle. Snares should be applied to you with the penality of dealing minimal damage, not both. This being said, on top of my suggestions to lower the amount of snares, here are some additional suggestions to help deal with them :

• Change the morph of Momentum (Rally) to something else and add a new stamina burst heal ability somewhere else OR Change the morph of Momentum (Forward Momentum) to something else and add a new stamina snare immunity ability somewhere else.
• Increase the duration of Shuffle in full medium to match the actually version of Forward Momentum
• Add a potion that give snares immunity for 8-10seconds
• Change the useless morph of Mist Form to provide snares immunity while being able to cast skills but remove the damage mitigation and the cc immunity

I was being sarcastic. Did not translate well to text.

NyassaV

technohic wrote: »

Yes come prepared to Cyrodiil. IE medium armor or 2h or get a group carry.

Oh god too true. Super tired of feeling funneled into 2h Magblade. I'd rather use 2h on a Mag DK it's so annoying (pre wings)

NyassaV

Sacredx wrote: »

Pretty much what others said. Immovable does not prevent snares. However, there are quite a few options to get around snares. Just need to understand the game mechanics and know your limitations. Study your opposition, find their weaknesses and use that knowledge to gain an advantage. I guarantee you will beat any opponent.

Any opponent save for that one AD group of around 12 people with mostly stam wardens (+ a few healers of course) spamming spin to win + sub assault + and multiple people using permafrost, a skill that has an uncounterable snare and CC in a large AOE.

I highly suggest not talking about learning to work around snares with a Kelly Gang thingy in your signature. You aren't wrong, it just looks weird.

Recremen

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

ZOS has actually acknowledged that snares are a huge problem in PvP recently and we can say thank you to our class representatives for that. They have reduced the duration of a lot of snares by half which is a good start. This being said, reducing the duration does not reduce the amount of snares as a whole. It simply forces people to use their snaring abilities more often which result in less damage dealt overall.

During large fights, the chances of snares being applied to you are still around 100% unless you are immune (Retreating maneuvers / Forward Momentum / Mist form). This is a big problem and shouldn't be the case.

Being snared while fighting is a huge quality of life issue and I believe I have a long term solution to address it. It has been the first point in my signature under the Spoilers section for quite some time now :

For class abilities that deal both damage and apply a CC, Root or Snare, make a magicka and a stamina version, bring 2 additional morphs that gives utility and minimal damage or higher damage. Then remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

For example, Stampede VS Critical Rush.
This is how every ability should work. Offer High Damage VS Minimal Damage + Utility. Never both.

The most important part : Remove all passives that apply snares from the game.

In addition to that, I believe that having potions that give snares immunity would go a long way.

I disagree regarding snares in large fights being a big problem. At some point you are either coming prepared to Cyrodiil or you aren't. It's great that snare duration has been lowered across the board to help with Battlegrounds and the occasional small-scale encounter, but for the most part I think there's a level of expected preparedness when it comes to large battles in Cyrodiil. If you aren't in a group, or you are in a group and nobody is casting rapids, then that's 100% on you guys. You might as well complain that you can't kill your opponent with no damage abilities slotted at that point because you absolutely have the tools available to help yourself and choosing not to use them needs to carry consequences.

Did you just compare the number of damaging abilities with abilities that give snares immunity?

Of course not, I'm saying that not bringing snare immunity to a large group battle is intellectually on par with not bringing damage abilities. Group smart and prep up or face the consequences is not a radical position to hold for large battles.

Could you tell me what kind of snare immunity a class without burst heals bring to the battle?

Again, as long as we're talking about big battles then you should have you or someone else running rapids. Or Retreating Maneuver, more specifically. If you don't have that going on then you are legit comically unprepared for the fight. If the complaint is that you can't get reliable snare immunity in big battles as a solo player then that's a whole different variety of bad decisions.

That said I think your suggestions you made later in the thread regarding a snare immunity potion and a rebalancing of Shuffle sound great! I'm just not into reworking every skill over an incorrect hot take on snares in large battles.

technohic

NyassaV wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Yes come prepared to Cyrodiil. IE medium armor or 2h or get a group carry.

Oh god too true. Super tired of feeling funneled into 2h Magblade. I'd rather use 2h on a Mag DK it's so annoying (pre wings)

Didnt mind 2h on magblade until they went and added magicka to LA damage. Now its even more of a sacrifice.

Sacredx

NyassaV wrote: »

Sacredx wrote: »

Pretty much what others said. Immovable does not prevent snares. However, there are quite a few options to get around snares. Just need to understand the game mechanics and know your limitations. Study your opposition, find their weaknesses and use that knowledge to gain an advantage. I guarantee you will beat any opponent.

Any opponent save for that one AD group of around 12 people with mostly stam wardens (+ a few healers of course) spamming spin to win + sub assault + and multiple people using permafrost, a skill that has an uncounterable snare and CC in a large AOE.

I highly suggest not talking about learning to work around snares with a Kelly Gang thingy in your signature. You aren't wrong, it just looks weird.

Well thank you for the compliment. We work hard to have a strong group.

Crixus8000

The root/snare poisons ignore all immunity. You could have forward momentum up and an immove pot and still be snared. They have gotten me killed so many times. Very bad design.